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Western political decay in contemporary time reflects the revival of a historical tendency toward fascism.
This in no way suggests that China's Model would be an alternative. In China's academia there is always a universal understanding that export of ideologies and models to foreign culture-political areas would not generate desired outcomes. Hence, we agree that China's Model is as unexportable as the US or Russian models are.
That explains why the argument that Western political models are in a decaying state does not automatically suggest superiority/applicability of the China Model in these decaying polities. These models (China-Western multitude) are distinct, unique and mutually exclusive. The academic intention here is only to point to such historical tendency of Western political decay as is -- without any comparison with other systems-models.
The argument that 'Western political decay makes China's path stand out" is only to affirm that China's path of pursuing a national development model based on its own historical experience and culture has been proven correct. Again, this is not to suggest a comparative superiority or inferiority vis-a-vis the West.
Now, we have empirical evidence that Western political models (which are varied in themselves and far from being unitary) are not bullet-proof. They are abundant with inherent contradictions. Like Marx said, Western, or let's say "US" for the purpose of simplification, political system creates its own grave diggers in the long span. Thus, adopting blindly such inherently contradictory model would also entail dangers in any foreign organism. Ideally, the West would be better equipped with correcting historical anomalies like how it did during the 1920s and 30s by allowing fascism to emerge, which, it later subdued forcefully by allowing a certain degree of public control over the means of production. However, relations of production in the West remained inherently fascist; hence, fascist tendencies never entirely disappeared. Those tendencies often hide themselves in the elite control of political affairs and depolitization of the masses. The solution to those tendencies in the West lies in the West.
However, if a foreign organism adopted the Western model, it would be much less equipped with finding the right cure. Hence, Western model export in the Middle East created discrepancies and the correction of these discrepancies has to be bloody, as seen in the progress of the Arab Spring. The same contradictions (like inequality, elite control over national affairs and over relations of production and news-making) in the US, for example, generate much less systemic crisis because it is culturally more equipped to respond and make corrections.
The decay, however, suggests that the tendency toward a new form of fascism in the West in general cannot be easily solved as it appears to have reached a point of no response to arbitrary solutions such as allowing a radical outsider to be elected -- as happened in the US. The contradictions remain even with radical governments taking over and with radical feelings running high. The tendency toward fascism is unstoppable because the strong grip of the business elite over national policy (foreign and domestic) and idea making.
These are Western internal affairs, in the simplest analysis. But, foreign policy is an extension of domestic policy. A facade can be constructed to hide the fascist tendencies in domestic politics while fascist-interventionist foreign policy continues unhindered (as happened in the US until recently). What we are witnessing today is perhaps the manifestation of the hidden domestic political tendencies in the West. The result of this could be catastrophic -- if domestic fascist tendencies further reinforced militarism in foreign policy.
This is where we would pay attention to Western political decay, that is, its reflections on foreign policy of these militarily capable nations. This is about our livelihood and existential security. All the recent developments such as the AC group sailing near China's waters and THAAD deployment can be analyzed from this theoretical vantage point.
In short:
Domestic fascist tendencies ---> foreign fascist tendencies ---> more contentious foreign policy (interventions, militarization of foreign diplomacy etc.) ---> a general decline in international security situation.
To reverse the cycle, Western (US) fascism has to be broken and repelled in the international area. This will, eventually, lead to corrections in their domestic policies. But, our concern lies only in the foreign realm and domestic realm remains to be their sovereign area.
@tranquilium , @Chinese-Dragon , @+4vsgorillas-Apebane , @ahojunk , @Jlaw , @oprih
This in no way suggests that China's Model would be an alternative. In China's academia there is always a universal understanding that export of ideologies and models to foreign culture-political areas would not generate desired outcomes. Hence, we agree that China's Model is as unexportable as the US or Russian models are.
That explains why the argument that Western political models are in a decaying state does not automatically suggest superiority/applicability of the China Model in these decaying polities. These models (China-Western multitude) are distinct, unique and mutually exclusive. The academic intention here is only to point to such historical tendency of Western political decay as is -- without any comparison with other systems-models.
The argument that 'Western political decay makes China's path stand out" is only to affirm that China's path of pursuing a national development model based on its own historical experience and culture has been proven correct. Again, this is not to suggest a comparative superiority or inferiority vis-a-vis the West.
Now, we have empirical evidence that Western political models (which are varied in themselves and far from being unitary) are not bullet-proof. They are abundant with inherent contradictions. Like Marx said, Western, or let's say "US" for the purpose of simplification, political system creates its own grave diggers in the long span. Thus, adopting blindly such inherently contradictory model would also entail dangers in any foreign organism. Ideally, the West would be better equipped with correcting historical anomalies like how it did during the 1920s and 30s by allowing fascism to emerge, which, it later subdued forcefully by allowing a certain degree of public control over the means of production. However, relations of production in the West remained inherently fascist; hence, fascist tendencies never entirely disappeared. Those tendencies often hide themselves in the elite control of political affairs and depolitization of the masses. The solution to those tendencies in the West lies in the West.
However, if a foreign organism adopted the Western model, it would be much less equipped with finding the right cure. Hence, Western model export in the Middle East created discrepancies and the correction of these discrepancies has to be bloody, as seen in the progress of the Arab Spring. The same contradictions (like inequality, elite control over national affairs and over relations of production and news-making) in the US, for example, generate much less systemic crisis because it is culturally more equipped to respond and make corrections.
The decay, however, suggests that the tendency toward a new form of fascism in the West in general cannot be easily solved as it appears to have reached a point of no response to arbitrary solutions such as allowing a radical outsider to be elected -- as happened in the US. The contradictions remain even with radical governments taking over and with radical feelings running high. The tendency toward fascism is unstoppable because the strong grip of the business elite over national policy (foreign and domestic) and idea making.
These are Western internal affairs, in the simplest analysis. But, foreign policy is an extension of domestic policy. A facade can be constructed to hide the fascist tendencies in domestic politics while fascist-interventionist foreign policy continues unhindered (as happened in the US until recently). What we are witnessing today is perhaps the manifestation of the hidden domestic political tendencies in the West. The result of this could be catastrophic -- if domestic fascist tendencies further reinforced militarism in foreign policy.
This is where we would pay attention to Western political decay, that is, its reflections on foreign policy of these militarily capable nations. This is about our livelihood and existential security. All the recent developments such as the AC group sailing near China's waters and THAAD deployment can be analyzed from this theoretical vantage point.
In short:
Domestic fascist tendencies ---> foreign fascist tendencies ---> more contentious foreign policy (interventions, militarization of foreign diplomacy etc.) ---> a general decline in international security situation.
To reverse the cycle, Western (US) fascism has to be broken and repelled in the international area. This will, eventually, lead to corrections in their domestic policies. But, our concern lies only in the foreign realm and domestic realm remains to be their sovereign area.
@tranquilium , @Chinese-Dragon , @+4vsgorillas-Apebane , @ahojunk , @Jlaw , @oprih
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