Western Media and Free Speech Stripped Naked In 2 Minutes.

[dbc]

Excellent reply!!... These Western media have no moral right to question others... They are all hypocrites!!

So if a Pakistani leaks military secrets obtained from a serving member of the Pakistani armed forces you will not prosecute that individual?
The law is the law, Assange role in leaking military secrets obtained from Bradley Edward Manning while he was serving in Iraq is unlawful.

You can't be selective and say if the leak is morally justified then its ok, Assange's does not have any protection under the Whistle Blowers Act.
I support Assange's role and I believe he should have faced the legal consequences of his actions. Bradley Edward Manning did, he served seven years in prison.
He should have courage in his convictions like Bradley Edward Manning and face the consequences - not hide in a Ecuadorian Embassy.

Here is the full interview, the BBC journalist acted professionally and she wasn't going to waste valuable time with President Ilham Aliyev debating Assange.
Her job was to expose President Ilham Aliyev lies on cluster munitions and civilian casualties, I think she succeeded.

 

[CatSultan]

Call the police cuz I just witnessed a murder.

 

[baqai]

@dbc i got my first ever negative rating on this forum courtesy of my post here on this thread, was wondering what ticked you off?

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Aliyev is a legend. I wonder if he will step up to the spotlight enjoyed by Erdoğan in the muslim world?!

Overall a killer statement. He turned the tables on Western media/propoganda.

Once again I'll say we need something like Reuters, RT, TRT, AlJazeera.

Britishit media will never talk about its empire's atrocities which resulted in millions of death and Britshit media will never say a word against its monarch who have deep roots to its ruthless empire.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

So if a Pakistani leaks military secrets obtained from a serving member of the Pakistani armed forces you will not prosecute that individual?
The law is the law, Assange role in leaking military secrets obtained from Bradley Edward Manning while he was serving in Iraq is unlawful.

You can't be selective and say if the leak is morally justified then its ok, Assange's does not have any protection under the Whistle Blowers Act.
I support Assange's role and I believe he should have faced the legal consequences of his actions. Bradley Edward Manning did, he served seven years in prison.
He should have courage in his convictions like Bradley Edward Manning and face the consequences - not hide in a Ecuadorian Embassy.

Here is the full interview, the BBC journalist acted professionally and she wasn't going to waste valuable time with President Ilham Aliyev debating Assange.
Her job was to expose President Ilham Aliyev lies on cluster munitions and civilian casualties, I think she succeeded.

Leaking secrets is euphemism for exposing war crimes right? isn't it ironical that nation who feigns to be stalwart of human rights all over the world persecutes it's own citizen for exposing her ugly face. Doesn't sound like Land of free to me.
If other nation are having hard time trusting NGOs and so called dissidents it's only because USofA(ssholes) militarized them for subversive purposes.

 

[pakpride00090]

Leaking secrets is euphemism for exposing war crimes right? isn't it ironical that nation who feigns to be stalwart of human rights all over the world persecutes it's own citizen for exposing her ugly face. Doesn't sound like Land of free to me.
If other nation are having hard time trusting NGOs and so called dissidents it's only because USofA(ssholes) militarized them for subversive purposes.
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Can I get the original source for that... I read it somewhere but forgot the original source

Thank you.

So if a Pakistani leaks military secrets obtained from a serving member of the Pakistani armed forces you will not prosecute that individual?
The law is the law, Assange role in leaking military secrets obtained from Bradley Edward Manning while he was serving in Iraq is unlawful.

You can't be selective and say if the leak is morally justified then its ok, Assange's does not have any protection under the Whistle Blowers Act.
I support Assange's role and I believe he should have faced the legal consequences of his actions. Bradley Edward Manning did, he served seven years in prison.
He should have courage in his convictions like Bradley Edward Manning and face the consequences - not hide in a Ecuadorian Embassy.

Here is the full interview, the BBC journalist acted professionally and she wasn't going to waste valuable time with President Ilham Aliyev debating Assange.
Her job was to expose President Ilham Aliyev lies on cluster munitions and civilian casualties, I think she succeeded.

Bradley has a moral conscience. Iraq war was illegal and based on lies. He did a good job.

 

[dbc]

@dbc i got my first ever negative rating on this forum courtesy of my post here on this thread, was wondering what ticked you off?

Your double entendre is offensive to women. Will you ever associate the word “drill” with a women you respect in real life? I don’t react to lowlifes here but when a respected member does so it needs to be addressed.

Leaking secrets is euphemism for exposing war crimes right? isn't it ironical that nation who feigns to be stalwart of human rights all over the world persecutes it's own citizen for exposing her ugly face. Doesn't sound like Land of free to me.
If other nation are having hard time trusting NGOs and so called dissidents it's only because USofA(ssholes) militarized them for subversive purposes.
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I don’t disagree but he resorted to unlawful means to expose excessive use of force in Iraq.
he did his cause real harm by not having the courage to fight his battles in court.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Can I get the original source for that... I read it somewhere but forgot the original source

Thank you.

I don’t disagree but he resorted to unlawful means to expose excessive use of force in Iraq.
he did his cause real harm by not having the courage to fight his battles in court.

Doesn't change the fact that US government was complicit in gross human rights violations that were meted out to their enslaved subjects in foreign countries.
Most of the war criminals were either rewarded with promotion or only got a slap on wrist in name of accountability and only those who made brought these war crimes to public eye were persecuted.Total travesty of justice.


Maj Gen Walter Wojdakowski (Dep.Comm.USIRAQ): Cleared of all charges, promoted.

Maj Gen Barbara Fast (Intel): Never Charged, promoted.

Brig Gen Janis Karpinski (Overall commander of the facility): Demoted to colonel. No Criminal prosecution.

Col Thomas Pappas: Relieved of his command, got his career ended, $8000 fined. No criminal prosecution or sentence in return for helping indicting his subordinate Lt Col Jordan.

Lt Col Steven L. Jordan: No punishment. Cleared of all charges, reprimanded only for disobeying an order not to discuss the investigation on the scandal.

Spc Charles Graner: Demoted, fired and sentenced to 10 years. Paroled after serving 6 years.

Staff Sgt Ivan Frederick: Demoted, 8 years in prison, discharged from military. Walked out after serving just 4 years.

Sgt Javal Davis: 6 months in prison, demotion, fired.

Spec Jeremy Sivits: 1 year, demotion, fired.

Spec Armin Cruz: 8 months, only confinement no prison (For testifying against others). Demoted, fired.

Spec Sabrina Harman: 6 months, fired.

Spec Megan Ambuhl: Demotion and half month's pay as fine. No criminal prosecution. Married now to Charles Graner, her fellow convict.

PFC Lynndie England: Demoted, Fired, Fined and 3 years "confinement". Walked out after serving just 1 year and 5 months.

Sgt Santos Cordona: Fired, 90 days imprisonment with Labour, Demoted. Killed by Afghan Taliban later while working as a contractor in Afghanistan.

Spec Roman Krol: Demoted, fired, 10 months confinement.

Spec Israel Rivera: Never charged in return for testifying against others.

Sgt Michael Smith: Demoted, fined 2250$, Fired, 179 days.

This list is only those who got caught on camera or were linked to the abuse of those caught on camera directly. We'll never know the exact number. Most of the torture was done by Intelligence and CIA . Give up you're trying to defend the indefensible.

 

[baqai]

Your double entendre is offensive to women. Will you ever associate the word “drill” with a women you respect in real life? I don’t react to lowlifes here but when a respected member does so it needs to be addressed.

@dbc

thanks for considering me as an respected member, secondly accept my apologies if it offended you but rest assured it's an statement i do use in my "offline" life as well both for males and females, for me it's stating something in a tone or with choice of words to make the point across and making it impossible for the other person (normally an idiot) to forget, some people just NEED that chitrol while others are normal so for me atleast it's not a gender related statement nor i consider it in sexual context.

drilling something into someone is also listed in cambridge dictionary as a viable phrase to use : https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/drill-something-into-someone

But like i said, if it offended you accept my apologies but i think negative rating was a slight going over the edge there on your part, cheers take care

@PDF also tagging you since somehow it also tickled your anger bone as well, gosh

 

[Samlee]

Aliyev is a legend. I wonder if he will step up to the spotlight enjoyed by Erdoğan in the muslim world?!

Overall a killer statement. He turned the tables on Western media/propoganda.

Once again I'll say we need something like Reuters, RT, TRT, AlJazeera.

In Pakistan This Is Called "Keh Ke Lena"

 

[vi-va]

Aliyev is a legend. I wonder if he will step up to the spotlight enjoyed by Erdoğan in the muslim world?!

Overall a killer statement. He turned the tables on Western media/propoganda.

Once again I'll say we need something like Reuters, RT, TRT, AlJazeera.

That woman(If I observe right) was mentally fcuked.