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West refused to invest in "Muslim Pakistan", China then filled in the void

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SUUUURE!

Look at number of people from Pakistan with PR / GC / Settlement in US/UK/Canada.

Look at same for Pakistani (with any visa etc) in China.

China is a developing country, with a very difficult immigration process. Hong kong is developed though and is one of the top immigration destinations on the planet, so in that case your point is negated.

Also the Western world is dependent on immigrant labour to maintain their industries whereas China relies on domestic labour. They have different priorities.
 
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What do you think could be the reason?

Close geograpical location, warm relation,

Japanese/Korean/Chinese will likely get more comfortable living in Indonesia as expat then living in Western countries.

The man is Indonesian and the ladies are Japanese, I think there must be connection between them.


Indonesian girl in Japan school (student exchange)

 
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China is a developing country, with a very difficult immigration process. Hong kong is developed though and is one of the top immigration destinations on the planet, so in that case your point is negated.
Alright, count the number of Pakistani in HK and compare it with say London or Toronto or Chicago. Sure as hell those who are living in London or Chicago or Toronto cannt be higher than those in HK.
 
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Well thanks to the corrupt adventures of Mr Bajwa, China is about to walk away as well. And I sincerely hope, China chokes the supply of weapons to these Generals. Hit them where it hurts the most so that these useless beings can go back to their barracks and leave the Awam alone.
 
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SUUUURE!

Look at number of people from Pakistan with PR / GC / Settlement in US/UK/Canada.

Look at same for Pakistani (with any visa etc) in China.
lol u Buffon! there r 22000 Pakistani students in China right now vs only 2000 in America and these numbers r constantly shrinking. These days more and more Pakistanis r preferring China, specially since start of CPEC.

Heck! even the total Pakistanis who choose to live there r only 554,202 as of 2019.


America isnt a top priority for any Pakistani citizen! specially for living. There r plenty of issues there as a Muslim. Pakistanis mostly go to GCC countries instead and then Turkey as mostly tourists. Its extremely hard to get US visa even! Also their airport staff and their intel. services doesnt treat us well. There have been poor experiences of Pakistani people there. One was when their FBI tried to trap a Pakistani there inorder to convince him for spying for US gov while he is in Pak, it was shared on this forum too.

This whole thing of Muslims or Pakistanis specially dying to go there is a myth. West aint that important as u think it is for us. Relations were good when we used to gain something in return from them. Now those gains come from China. So Pak has good relations with them.

Theres no such thing as free lunch sweaty.
 
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Alright, count the number of Pakistani in HK and compare it with say London or Toronto or Chicago. Sure as hell those who are living in London or Chicago or Toronto cannt be higher than those in HK.

How do you account for different immigration policies? Your argument doesnt make any sense because comparing the immigration policies of two different places is stupid.

For example there are 18k pakistanis in Japan, and double that living in China. Therefore using your logic, Japan is a worse place to live than China.
 
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SUUUURE!

Look at number of people from Pakistan with PR / GC / Settlement in US/UK/Canada.

Look at same for Pakistani (with any visa etc) in China.

People from Pakistan and India go to Anglo countries with open immigration policies. Or they go to the Gulf where you can get by with English.

They don't go to China, nor much to France or Germany, relatively speaking.


I have said it many times. The Western media is the biggest snake on the planet. It spread Islamophobia around the world and it will attack Muslims at every opportunity. It is a certainty that they will give a negative spin to almost every media coverage of Muslim countries.

Funny how the 'freedom loving' Western countries (except the US) censor media outlets from Russia, China, Iran, but their own propaganda outlets run rampant around the world.
 
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People from Pakistan and India go to Anglo countries with open immigration policies. Or they go to the Gulf where you can get by with English.

They don't go to China, nor much to France or Germany, relatively speaking.



I have said it many times. The Western media is the biggest snake on the planet. It spread Islamophobia around the world and it will attack Muslims at every opportunity. It is a certainty that they will give a negative spin to almost every media coverage of Muslim countries.

Funny how the 'freedom loving' Western countries (except the US) censor media outlets from Russia, China, Iran, but their own propaganda outlets run rampant around the world.
Muslims only go to West for higher education. Nothing more than that.
 
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Asia​

Gwadar: Why is Pakistan fencing China's Belt and Road port?​

Locals have slammed the government's decision to put up barbed wires around large parts of the Gwadar port city in Balochistan. China has invested heavily in the area.



Gwadar is at the center of the $50 billion (€41 billion) China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project
Gwadar is at the center of the $50 billion (€41 billion) China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project
According to Pakistan's The News newspaper, the Gwadar Fencing Project kicked off last week under supervision of the country's army and provincial authorities.

Naseer Khan Kashani, chairman of the Gwadar Port Authority, told the daily that the fencing project will change the security dynamics in the port city.

Balochistan's provincial government plans to fence off 24 square kilometers of the city, which is at the center of the $50 billion (€41 billion) China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project. According to local media, there will be two entry points to the fenced part of the city, and more than 500 surveillance cameras will be installed.

The main reason behind building the fence in Gwadar is to protect the Chinese-funded projects from Baloch separatists, who oppose CPEC. Many Baloch politicians believe the fencing will force locals to relocate from the strategically important city.

China announced the CPEC project in 2015 with an aim to expand its trade links and influence in Pakistan and across Central and South Asia. CPEC would link Pakistan's southern Gwadar port on the Arabian Sea to China's western Xinjiang region. It also includes plans to create road, rail and oil pipeline links to improve connectivity between China and the Middle East.

Pakistan is grappling with an acute economic crisis. Experts say CPEC can certainly stir the much-needed economic activity in the country.

CPEC would also link Pakistan's southern Gwadar port on the Arabian Sea to China's western Xinjiang region's southern Gwadar port on the Arabian Sea to China's western Xinjiang region
CPEC would also link Pakistan's southern Gwadar port on the Arabian Sea to China's western Xinjiang region

Anger against Chinese projects​


Balochistan remains Pakistan's poorest and least populous province, despite several development projects initiated by Islamabad. Rebel groups have waged a separatist insurgency in the province for decades, complaining that Islamabad and the richer Punjab province unfairly exploit their resources. Islamabad reacted to the insurgency by launching a military operation in the province in 2005. There have since been reports of grave human rights abuses committed by the military and its intelligence agencies in the province.

The strategically located Gwadar port is close to the Strait of Hormuz and Baloch nationalists fear that the Chinese are not only after the province's natural resources but also want to exploit the port, which is already being operated by the Chinese.

Armed rebels continue to attack security forces in Balochistan. In November 2018, Baloch separatists attacked the Chinese consulate in Pakistan's southern Karachi city. Earlier this year, four gunmen belonging to the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) attacked the Pakistan Stock Exchange building, killing at least three people including two guards and one policeman, while the four assailants were also killed by gunfire.

A 'human rights violation'​


Pakistani officials say that Gwadar fencing, which is part of the Smart Port City Project, is aimed at transforming the city into a modern town with industrial zones, trade centers and housing areas. Authorities believe all this cannot be achieved without securing the city.

Zubaida Jalal, the federal minister for defense production, denied claims that the Gwadar fencing was taking place to appease China. "There are security reasons behind it; it will provide security to locals," she told DW.

A Gwadar official told DW on condition of anonymity that the fencing had already started in the Pishokan area of the city. "It will be completed within months. It will be like a gated community."

The government's claims about securing the city have failed to impress Baloch nationalists, who fear the fencing will displace local population and subsequently change the city's demography.

"They are trying to relocate the local population in the name of security. We will resist it and work with other political parties," Abdul Malik, a former chief minister of Balochistan, told DW.

Rahim Zafar, a leader of the opposition Pakistan People's Party, dubbed the Gwadar fencing a human rights violation. "It will hamper people's freedom of movement. It is also illegal and unconstitutional. The fencing will increase resentment among the local population against Islamabad," he told DW.

Is fencing necessary for development?​


Pro-government security analysts say the Gwadar fencing is necessary to ensure development in the area. Ijaz Awan, a retired military official and defense expert, says that those who are opposing the Gwadar fencing are foreign agents.

"Why are they opposing it? Chinese and Pakistani security forces have previously been attacked in Balochistan. We have the right to protect the city from those that don't want the country to progress," Awan told DW.

"They are against all development projects. The fencing will be carried out and will be completed," Awan vowed.

However, independent analysts say the fencing will be counterproductive as it is likely to alienate the local population. "It (fencing) is an apartheid legacy. It will harm the country," Ammar Ali Jan, a Lahore-based political analyst, told DW.

Mohammad Aslam Bhootani, a member of parliament from Gwadar, last week slammed the government's decision to fence Gwadar.

"The people of Gwadar will consider themselves alienated from the game-changing mega project (CPEC)," he told local media, urging the authorities to review their decision.


No wonder why Pakistanis think better of Chinese.

The West refused to invest in Pakistan. Therefore China filled in the void.

Good I guess, because the West are hypocritical backstabbing dishonest Islamophobic baboons.
wrong title no doubt inspired by hatred, low self-esteem and paranoia
 
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I wouldn't mind if Pakistan includes dual nationality with China.

Listen Indiot, we all know that you love the "goras" more than your own kind.
Your army loves the goras more than your own kind.
And before you call me an indiot, just look at my flags.

Muslims only go to West for higher education. Nothing more than that.
Lol. If there was visa free passage to the West, Pakistan would be empty.
 
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Alright, count the number of Pakistani in HK and compare it with say London or Toronto or Chicago. Sure as hell those who are living in London or Chicago or Toronto cannt be higher than those in HK.
China won't allow any trash, only the UK has the penchant for importing unemployable dregs of the world.
 
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Your army loves the goras more than your own kind.
And before you call me an indiot, just look at my flags.


Lol. If there was visa free passage to the West, Pakistan would be empty.
Ummm... you made a mistake. I quoted @HydraChess who is an Indian and not you @Longhorn.

Here is the evidence:
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You made a mistake Sir.
 
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