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"We're very satisfied": US multiplying military, civilian aid to Pakistan

I think a lot of the confusion comes from Clinton. Her remarks appear to me to be her own and not Obamas. Now the administration is trying to calm things down.

The same thing happened with Joe and Israel.
 
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Okay someone explain to me other possible 'interpretations' of 'severe consequences'

and if they wanna do a roll back it will have to come from Clinton herself, and what are the chances of that ? Dr. Phill will grow hair before that happens

On a lighter note, may be she meant severe consequences for Obama administration for its policies :azn:
 
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Whatever Ms.Clinton wanted to convey she had done it publicaly and it rulers of Pakistan had got the message and Mr.Halbrooke is trying to placate the masses that Ms.Clinton's words were twisted and taken out of context.
 
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Well i guess this is good example of US's carrot and stick policy:
If Pak acts agianst Afghan Taliban they will get military and economic aid otherwise the stick(severe consequences which Hillary mentioned).
 
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^^ First off, Hillary never said "consequences" for Pakistan. She was pushed to clarify and she refused to. I explain this in one of two ways; she is a politician at the end of the day, rather than a career diplomat, so she could have said something realizing she shouldn't have said it and then refused to go any further with it leaving the ambiguity which she could use as space to backtrack. It's either this, or she meant consequences for terrorists and this has been misconstrued, as Holbrooke has now publicly clarified.

Either way, clearly there is massive backtracking going on. Holbrooke and Gen. McChrystal both specifically rejected any media claims that pressure was being put on Pakistan. McChrystal went so far as to state in the media that he *never* asked Gen. Kiyani to move forward in NWA, much less any reference to an "or else" stick. He even called up Gen. Kiyani and vowed he had never made such statements to the media and had been misreported in an "unfortunate" false story.

That's going to some lengths to clarify the position... I think those trying to frame this in terms of a US/Pakistan relationship crisis need to find their entertainment elsewhere.
 
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Primarily, it looks more like a good cop bad cop scenarion and I am sure that their goal is to make Pakistan go after terrorists in North Waziristan and also LeT. Anything that US does to encourage Pakistan is welcome.

Also, I suspect that they were just hedging for any future attacks because if something happens and it points to Pakistan terrorist organizations, then Obama administration and the democrats will have to pay a very heavy price.

The last thing that the world (India included) should do is to isolate Pakistan - at least when it showing the will to go after the terrorists and reverse the Zia approach.
 
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^^ First off, Hillary never said "consequences" for Pakistan. She was pushed to clarify and she refused to. I explain this in one of two ways; she is a politician at the end of the day, rather than a career diplomat, so she could have said something realizing she shouldn't have said it and then refused to go any further with it leaving the ambiguity which she could use as space to backtrack. It's either this, or she meant consequences for terrorists and this has been misconstrued, as Holbrooke has now publicly clarified.
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It can't be the bold option since she said that if the attacks are traced back to Pakistan there will be serious consequences. It cant be that there will be consequences for Terrorists only if the attack is traced to Paksitan and not other wise??

I think your 1st possibility makes more sense...

Or may be as Deepak says, its a good cop bad cop going on...
 
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It can't be the bold option since she said that if the attacks are traced back to Pakistan there will be serious consequences. It cant be that there will be consequences for Terrorists only if the attack is traced to

Of course it can. And what's most important is that when she was asked to elaborate, she just refused. There are "consequences" for terrorists who attempt to act in Pakistan even today... those consequences can be made more severe - working with Pakistan - if terrorists hiding somewhere along the Pak-Afghan border attempt to misbehave further.
 
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i think its like a management tactics , One boss is:flame: and other one is :angel:
 
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One thing that has been bothering me a lot... Remember the Mossad operation in dubai and the forged passports. Well does anyone remember the case of the 3000 missing Pakistani passports:

DAWN.COM | Editorial | Missing passports

Now did you also know that the passport facilitator, the company contracted to actually transport the passports from Pakistan was an Indian company VFS Global: VFS Global Services | Consular Services | Online Tracking of Passport | Visa Application Services | Diplomatic Missions | PIO | Biometrics | Business Visa Process Outsourcing | Handling Services

Now here is a big twist: The UK High Comission in Islamabad knew that it is against SECP and BOI guidelines and Pakistani corporate law for Indian and Isreali companies to open their Representative or Branch office's in the country. (This cover's Sub Contracted work).

Yet the contracted VFS Global and their clients (BHC) officers in Pakistan, facilitated a sub-contract with a Pakistani company "Gerrys Danata": Gerrys Group of Companies

Shortly after this contract several problems emerged including defaced passports, stolen visa stickers and passport alternations: DAWN.COM | National | Contract of firm handling UK visas cancelled

This lead to the cancellation of VFS's work in Pakistan and a temporary cease of visa processing in the country whilst the FIA investigated the matter.

Press and government sources claim upto 4000 passports are missing. Some with UK visa stickers... Yet there is no word on the matter from the UK border agency or the UK Home Office..

Why is no one looking at this side of the picture?
 
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"White Elephant" does'nt have a choice, they can chose Pakistan or desaster in Afghanistan.

Its is naive to think the people like shazad khalid can change policies of two countries.

Pakistan should keep milking US as long as it can and take maximum advantage of the situation.

Dont get me wroung but that's exactly what US does to every other country except ISRAEL. :cheers:
 
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Clinton needs to watch her mouth she has lost her damn mind.......
 
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