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WE ARE GREATFULL TO SHRI ANNA HAZARE>>>>> BUT DONT U PPL THINK WE ARE CELABRATING THE VICTORY TOO SOON>>>>
LET THE BILL BECOME A REALITY..... IT HAS BEEN SEEN MANY TIMES THAT IF U CLOSE ONE DOOR FOR CORRUPTION THE GREEDY OPENS 2 MORE DOORS...
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This will be edged in History..
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Corruption will decrease massively
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THERE IS LOKAYUTTA SET UP IN KARNATAKA ..... DID CORRUPTION DECREASE??? IT INCREASED MASSIVELY
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Bollywood hails Anna Hazare's success
IANS | Apr 9, 2011, 12.03pm IST
Bollywood celebrities like Anupam Kher, Pritish Nandy and Vivek Oberoi who were in support of social activist Anna Hazare have lauded his victory in the campaign for a stringent Lokpal Bill to battle corruption.
Filmmaker Pritish Nandy, who flew down to the capital to participate in the protest at Jantar Mantar, took to social networking website Twitter after news broke out that the 72-year-old Gandhian would break his four-day long fast Saturday morning.
"So we, the people of India, won the first round in the war against corruption. All thanks to one man, Anna Hazare. For those not around on 15 August 1947 and 21 March 1977, this must be the first great people's victory they are witnessing. I hope the cynics will now be silenced. Those who kept saying that victory against the State was a pipe dream (sic)," posted Nandy.
Veteran actor Anupam Kher, composer Vishal Dadlani and filmmaker Madhur Bhandarkar, who were also among those from the film fraternity who supported the movement in person, too were ecstatic.
"It is PEOPLE'S VICTORY led by a 73yrs youngest man in India, ANNA HAZARE. Thank you for leading us. New journey begins. All the best to US (sic)," wrote Kher.
Bhandarkar, who is known for his socially relevant films, wrote: "Finally Victory to Anna & all the Indians who supported lok pal bill with power & determination. Also many thanks to media for keeping the anti corruption fire burning across India. Jai hind."
Dadlani posted: "JAI HO! Anna Hazare has won for us. The first steps in the revolution of the Indian mind have been taken. Don't let the momentum drop! This calls for a celebration bigger than the World Cup Win!!! Jai HO!!! Bharatmata ki Jai!!."
Singer Kailash Kher, who was scheduled to perform in Mumbai Saturday in support of the movement, will now perform to celebrate its victory.
"Congratulation to all Indians for winning this fight now there will be less corruption assured. Our performance is on for celebration," Kailash Kher tweeted.
Many other celebrities too were in a mood for celebration. Here is what they had to say on Twitter.
Diya Mirza: "I believe that this movement was not about sound bites but about covering the people's mood. Happy that the peoples voice was heard. We went to Azad Maidan today as citizens of our country. We went to show our solidarity to Anna Hazare. The journey has just begun. Thank you MEDIA for staying true. Together we can make the change."
Vivek Oberoi: "An incredible victory for truth! Anna Hazare zindabad!!! Bharat mata ki jai!!!"
Neha Dhupia: "Long live Anna Hazare! Jai hind!"
Aftab Shivdasani: "Modern day Gandhi - salute to Anna Hazare.. True display of courage! Salute to every democratic indian too! India shines. Amen."
Anubhav Sinha: "Two Things. One. It is Official now that our Government is corrupt. Two. I am proud of the youth of India."
Shreya Ghoshal: "Ecstatic at the news of our win! Long live Anna Hazare!"
Monali Thakur: "The feeling of winning against corruption is is an extraordinary feeling.. Anna Hazare we are very lucky to have u n we love u..!!"
IANS | Apr 9, 2011, 12.03pm IST
Bollywood celebrities like Anupam Kher, Pritish Nandy and Vivek Oberoi who were in support of social activist Anna Hazare have lauded his victory in the campaign for a stringent Lokpal Bill to battle corruption.
Filmmaker Pritish Nandy, who flew down to the capital to participate in the protest at Jantar Mantar, took to social networking website Twitter after news broke out that the 72-year-old Gandhian would break his four-day long fast Saturday morning.
"So we, the people of India, won the first round in the war against corruption. All thanks to one man, Anna Hazare. For those not around on 15 August 1947 and 21 March 1977, this must be the first great people's victory they are witnessing. I hope the cynics will now be silenced. Those who kept saying that victory against the State was a pipe dream (sic)," posted Nandy.
Veteran actor Anupam Kher, composer Vishal Dadlani and filmmaker Madhur Bhandarkar, who were also among those from the film fraternity who supported the movement in person, too were ecstatic.
"It is PEOPLE'S VICTORY led by a 73yrs youngest man in India, ANNA HAZARE. Thank you for leading us. New journey begins. All the best to US (sic)," wrote Kher.
Bhandarkar, who is known for his socially relevant films, wrote: "Finally Victory to Anna & all the Indians who supported lok pal bill with power & determination. Also many thanks to media for keeping the anti corruption fire burning across India. Jai hind."
Dadlani posted: "JAI HO! Anna Hazare has won for us. The first steps in the revolution of the Indian mind have been taken. Don't let the momentum drop! This calls for a celebration bigger than the World Cup Win!!! Jai HO!!! Bharatmata ki Jai!!."
Singer Kailash Kher, who was scheduled to perform in Mumbai Saturday in support of the movement, will now perform to celebrate its victory.
"Congratulation to all Indians for winning this fight now there will be less corruption assured. Our performance is on for celebration," Kailash Kher tweeted.
Many other celebrities too were in a mood for celebration. Here is what they had to say on Twitter.
Diya Mirza: "I believe that this movement was not about sound bites but about covering the people's mood. Happy that the peoples voice was heard. We went to Azad Maidan today as citizens of our country. We went to show our solidarity to Anna Hazare. The journey has just begun. Thank you MEDIA for staying true. Together we can make the change."
Vivek Oberoi: "An incredible victory for truth! Anna Hazare zindabad!!! Bharat mata ki jai!!!"
Neha Dhupia: "Long live Anna Hazare! Jai hind!"
Aftab Shivdasani: "Modern day Gandhi - salute to Anna Hazare.. True display of courage! Salute to every democratic indian too! India shines. Amen."
Anubhav Sinha: "Two Things. One. It is Official now that our Government is corrupt. Two. I am proud of the youth of India."
Shreya Ghoshal: "Ecstatic at the news of our win! Long live Anna Hazare!"
Monali Thakur: "The feeling of winning against corruption is is an extraordinary feeling.. Anna Hazare we are very lucky to have u n we love u..!!"
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Attack on actor Anupam Kher's house
The house of actor Anupam Kher was tonight attacked by alleged activists of Republican Party of India (RPI) who protested his remarks on the Indian constitution, the police said.
The actor was not present when stones were pelted at his house in suburban Juhu around 8pm. A few window-panes were broken.
The police said a team has been rushed there and 11 persons have been taken into custody.
RPI activists were protesting Kher's remarks allegedly against the Indian Constitution while talking to TV channels when he expressed support for Anna Hazare's hunger strike.
A privilege motion has been moved against him in the Maharashtra assembly with regard to his remarks.
Attack on actor Anupam Kher's house - Mumbai - DNA
This is sheer badmashi. I watched that whole debate on IBN7, an Anupam Kher didn't make any objectionable remark about the constitution. Apparently NCP is pissed off with Anupam Kher and only venting out their frustration on.
The house of actor Anupam Kher was tonight attacked by alleged activists of Republican Party of India (RPI) who protested his remarks on the Indian constitution, the police said.
The actor was not present when stones were pelted at his house in suburban Juhu around 8pm. A few window-panes were broken.
The police said a team has been rushed there and 11 persons have been taken into custody.
RPI activists were protesting Kher's remarks allegedly against the Indian Constitution while talking to TV channels when he expressed support for Anna Hazare's hunger strike.
A privilege motion has been moved against him in the Maharashtra assembly with regard to his remarks.
Attack on actor Anupam Kher's house - Mumbai - DNA
This is sheer badmashi. I watched that whole debate on IBN7, an Anupam Kher didn't make any objectionable remark about the constitution. Apparently NCP is pissed off with Anupam Kher and only venting out their frustration on.
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Ill try to get the youtube video of that debate.
Since i watched that debate myself, i can tell you what he said ---50 saal me chulha badal jata hai to sanvidhan kyu nahi badal sakta.-- this is all he said.
he is only being framed.
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wow wasn't he bang on point??I believe a constitution needs amendments with change in time...and it's been 60 years!!.... i am with Anupam Kher.
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Man, that's just because it has not been implemented in the intended form. The same thing was going to happen with the RTI. The government tried its best to turn it into a toothless tiger. But it got changed, and corruption did decrease.
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Anna Hazare's 5-point letter to PM
Updated: April 06, 2011 17:37 IST
New Delhi: In a five-point letter to the Prime Minister, veteran activist and Gandhian Anna Hazare has explained why he is continuing with the hunger fast that the government has asked him to re-consider. Mr Hazare is clear that his agenda is not just to push for the bill, but to ensure that it is not drafted by the government alone - this, he says, would be undemocratic and would allow politicians to provide far too many loopholes to let themselves off the hook.
Here's the letter:
Dear Dr. Singh,
I have started my indefinite fast at Jantar mantar. I had invited you also to fast and pray for a corruption free India on 5th April. Though I did not receive any reply from you, I am hopeful that you must have done that.
I am pained to read and hear about government's reaction to my fast. I consider it my duty to clarify the points raised on behalf of Congress party and the government by their spokespersons, as they appear in media:
1. It is being alleged that I am being instigated by some people to sit on this fast. Dear Manmohan Singh ji, this is an insult to my sense of wisdom and intelligence. I am not a kid that I could be "instigated" into going on an indefinite fast. I am a fiercely independent person. I take advice from many friends and critics, but do what my conscience directs me to do. It is my experience that when cornered, governments resort to such malicious slandering. I am pained that the government, rather than addressing the issue of corruption, is trying to allege conspiracies, when there are none.
2. It is being said that I have shown impatience. Dear Prime Minister, so far, every government has shown complete insensitivity and lack of political commitment to tackling corruption. 62 years after independence, we still do not have independent and effective anti‐corruption systems. Very weak versions of Lokpal Bill were presented in Parliament eight times in last 42 years. Even these weak versions were not passed by Parliament. This means, left to themselves, the politicians and bureaucrats will never pass any law which subjects them to any kind of objective scrutiny. At a time, when the country has witnessed scams of unprecedented scale, the impatience of the entire country is justified. And we call upon you, not to look for precedents, but show courage to take unprecedented steps.
3. It is being said that I have shown impatience when the government has "initiated" the process. I would urge you to tell me - exactly what processes are underway?
a. You say that your Group of Ministers are drafting the anti‐corruption law. Many of the members of this Group of Ministers have such a shady past that if effective anticorruption systems had been in place, some of them would have been behind bars. Do you want us to have faith in a process in which some of the most corrupt people of this country should draft the anti‐corruption law?
b. NAC sub‐committee has discussed Jan Lokpal Bill. But what does that actually mean? Will the government accept the recommendations of NAC sub‐committee? So far, UPA II has shown complete contempt for even the most innocuous issues raised by NAC.
c. I and many other friends from India Against Corruption movement wrote several letters to you after 1st December. I also sent you a copy of Jan Lokpal Bill on 1st December. We did not get any response. It is only when I wrote to you that I will sit on an indefinite fast, we were promptly invited for discussions on 7th March. I wonder whether the government responds only to threats of indefinite fast. Before that, representatives of India Against Corruption had been meeting various Ministers seeking their support for the Jan Lokpal Bill. They met Mr Moily also and personally handed over copy of Jan Lokpal to him. A few hours before our meeting with you, we received a phone call from Mr Moily's office that the copy of Jan Lokpal Bill had been misplaced by his office and they wanted another copy. This is the seriousness with which the government has dealt with Jan Lokpal Bill.
d. Dear Dr Manmohan Singh ji, if you were in my place, would you have any faith in the aforesaid processes? Kindly let me know if there are any other processes underway. If you still feel that I am impatient, I am happy that I am because the whole nation is feeling impatient at the lack of credible efforts from your government against corruption.
4. What are we asking for? We are not saying that you should accept the Bill drafted by us. But kindly create a credible platform for discussions - a joint committee with at least half members from civil society suggested by us. Your spokespersons are misleading the nation when they say that there is no precedent for setting up a joint committee. At least seven laws in Maharashtra were drafted by similar joint committees and presented in Maharashtra Assembly. Maharashtra RTI Act, one of the best laws of those times, was drafted by a joint committee. Even at the centre, when 25,000 tribals came to Delhi two years ago, your government set up a joint committee on land issues within 48 hours. You yourself are the Chairperson of that committee.
This means that the government is willing to set up joint committees on all other issues, but not on corruption. Why?
5. It is being said that the government wants to talk to us and we are not talking to them. This is utterly false. Tell me a single meeting when you called us and we did not come. We strongly believe in dialogue and engagement. Kindly do not mislead the country by saying that we are shunning dialogue.
We request you to take some credible steps at stemming corruption. Kindly stop finding faults and suspecting conspiracies in our movement. There are none. Even if there were, it does not absolve you of your responsibilities to stop corruption.
With warm regards,
K B Hazare
Updated: April 06, 2011 17:37 IST
New Delhi: In a five-point letter to the Prime Minister, veteran activist and Gandhian Anna Hazare has explained why he is continuing with the hunger fast that the government has asked him to re-consider. Mr Hazare is clear that his agenda is not just to push for the bill, but to ensure that it is not drafted by the government alone - this, he says, would be undemocratic and would allow politicians to provide far too many loopholes to let themselves off the hook.
Here's the letter:
Dear Dr. Singh,
I have started my indefinite fast at Jantar mantar. I had invited you also to fast and pray for a corruption free India on 5th April. Though I did not receive any reply from you, I am hopeful that you must have done that.
I am pained to read and hear about government's reaction to my fast. I consider it my duty to clarify the points raised on behalf of Congress party and the government by their spokespersons, as they appear in media:
1. It is being alleged that I am being instigated by some people to sit on this fast. Dear Manmohan Singh ji, this is an insult to my sense of wisdom and intelligence. I am not a kid that I could be "instigated" into going on an indefinite fast. I am a fiercely independent person. I take advice from many friends and critics, but do what my conscience directs me to do. It is my experience that when cornered, governments resort to such malicious slandering. I am pained that the government, rather than addressing the issue of corruption, is trying to allege conspiracies, when there are none.
2. It is being said that I have shown impatience. Dear Prime Minister, so far, every government has shown complete insensitivity and lack of political commitment to tackling corruption. 62 years after independence, we still do not have independent and effective anti‐corruption systems. Very weak versions of Lokpal Bill were presented in Parliament eight times in last 42 years. Even these weak versions were not passed by Parliament. This means, left to themselves, the politicians and bureaucrats will never pass any law which subjects them to any kind of objective scrutiny. At a time, when the country has witnessed scams of unprecedented scale, the impatience of the entire country is justified. And we call upon you, not to look for precedents, but show courage to take unprecedented steps.
3. It is being said that I have shown impatience when the government has "initiated" the process. I would urge you to tell me - exactly what processes are underway?
a. You say that your Group of Ministers are drafting the anti‐corruption law. Many of the members of this Group of Ministers have such a shady past that if effective anticorruption systems had been in place, some of them would have been behind bars. Do you want us to have faith in a process in which some of the most corrupt people of this country should draft the anti‐corruption law?
b. NAC sub‐committee has discussed Jan Lokpal Bill. But what does that actually mean? Will the government accept the recommendations of NAC sub‐committee? So far, UPA II has shown complete contempt for even the most innocuous issues raised by NAC.
c. I and many other friends from India Against Corruption movement wrote several letters to you after 1st December. I also sent you a copy of Jan Lokpal Bill on 1st December. We did not get any response. It is only when I wrote to you that I will sit on an indefinite fast, we were promptly invited for discussions on 7th March. I wonder whether the government responds only to threats of indefinite fast. Before that, representatives of India Against Corruption had been meeting various Ministers seeking their support for the Jan Lokpal Bill. They met Mr Moily also and personally handed over copy of Jan Lokpal to him. A few hours before our meeting with you, we received a phone call from Mr Moily's office that the copy of Jan Lokpal Bill had been misplaced by his office and they wanted another copy. This is the seriousness with which the government has dealt with Jan Lokpal Bill.
d. Dear Dr Manmohan Singh ji, if you were in my place, would you have any faith in the aforesaid processes? Kindly let me know if there are any other processes underway. If you still feel that I am impatient, I am happy that I am because the whole nation is feeling impatient at the lack of credible efforts from your government against corruption.
4. What are we asking for? We are not saying that you should accept the Bill drafted by us. But kindly create a credible platform for discussions - a joint committee with at least half members from civil society suggested by us. Your spokespersons are misleading the nation when they say that there is no precedent for setting up a joint committee. At least seven laws in Maharashtra were drafted by similar joint committees and presented in Maharashtra Assembly. Maharashtra RTI Act, one of the best laws of those times, was drafted by a joint committee. Even at the centre, when 25,000 tribals came to Delhi two years ago, your government set up a joint committee on land issues within 48 hours. You yourself are the Chairperson of that committee.
This means that the government is willing to set up joint committees on all other issues, but not on corruption. Why?
5. It is being said that the government wants to talk to us and we are not talking to them. This is utterly false. Tell me a single meeting when you called us and we did not come. We strongly believe in dialogue and engagement. Kindly do not mislead the country by saying that we are shunning dialogue.
We request you to take some credible steps at stemming corruption. Kindly stop finding faults and suspecting conspiracies in our movement. There are none. Even if there were, it does not absolve you of your responsibilities to stop corruption.
With warm regards,
K B Hazare
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