We will pay back India in its own coin, says Pakistan Defence Minister

[Taimoor Khan]

Didn't think the Partition War counted but you are right, it was Pakistan that started it. Though perhaps Pakistanis lost more spiritually and in political freedoms than they gained in territory, don't you think?

partition happened in 47, the war of Kashmir was in 48. This war actually led to the UN intervention and that why you see Kashmir on UN agenda for all these years. What are you on about?

Bottom line is, we gained territory in which you can fit many Israel. This was in response to the garbage you posted. Hope this will be of education to you and your kind, pass the message among you who hold the similar views.

 

[Jugger]

Pakistan has lost every conflict it ever started with India. "Do more" and Pakistan may end up with less: less population, less territory, less respect, and a lesser army.

PDF Pakistani members will never accept that the wars between India and Pakistan were detrimental for Pakistan, they consider the mere existence of Pakistan as a proof of victory against India.

Instead of planning to stabilise Pakistan politically and economically, the rulers of Pakistan have always tried the fight India with impossible odds of winning! This has resulted in catastrophic reversals for Pakistan in the last 70 years.

 

[coffee_cup]

What is a loss? Regurgitation of less than facts does not help. There are many here who have spent years looking back at what these conflicts were and they don't reduce the outcomes to such simplistic statements like "Pakistan has lost every conflict". Had Pakistan lost every conflict, then there would not be an ongoing conflict today. Most nations don't recover from one war they lose, here you are claiming that Pakistan lost not one, not two but all its wars! All I can say about this is that if Pakistan has lost every conflict, then so has India because had that not been the case, we would not be going through pages upon pages and threads upon threads on this issue.

Don't expect an answer from this dude, bro. This is outside of his well defined employment parameters.
He comes here with some wild statements, copy/pastes few selective out-of-context articles against Muslims in general and Pakistan in particular and disappears when challenged with some reality checks on his own country "Israel".

Yesterday he was shedding crocodile tears about some pseudo liberals + Asma Jahangir about how we should celebrate and cherish them if they criticize the defenders of Pakistan i.e. military.

And when challenged to say the same about an innocent Israeli jewish girl who refused to serve in Israel armed forces and hence was labelled a traitor and ended up in jail, he just disappeared. Just like now about this blanket statement about "Pakistan has lost every conflict against India". There are countless other instances.

As wrote before, this is beyond his employment parameters. He is here to spread propaganda and not to answer questions.

Didn't think the Partition War counted but you are right, it was Pakistan that started it. Though perhaps Pakistanis lost more spiritually and in political freedoms than they gained in territory, don't you think?

You did not answer when are you going to defend and fight for that liberal Israeli girl who refused to serve in the military and hence was labelled a traitor and ended up in jail?

When are you going to demand her release from the jail and condemn those extermists sitting in Israeli govt so that they stop this practice of threatening and imprisoning liberal jews in Israel?

Link to the post: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/famous-lawyer-asma-jahangir-passes-away.543787/page-16#post-10251330

 

[Champion_Usmani]

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will pay India in its own coin in case of any misadventure, and will robustly defend every inch of its soil, said Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir.

In a statement on the security policy in the Senate, the federal minister said any Indian aggression, strategic miscalculation, or misadventure regardless of its scale, mode, or location will not go unpunished and shall be met with an equal and proportionate response.

He said instead of blaming Pakistan without substantial evidence, India must answer for state-sponsored espionage against Pakistan. He said living evidence of Kulbushan Yadav is in front of the world.

Dastgir said the arrest of Indian spy Kulbushan Jadav indicates New Delhi’s designs to use a third country for espionage against Pakistan. He said India has failed to deliver justice to the 42 Pakistanis murdered in Samjhota Express terrorism eleven years ago.

He said deployment of Cold Start doctrine against Pakistan, lethal violations on Line of Control and human rights abuses in held Kashmir are compounded by India’s jingoism. He said that the hostile stance taken by India has reduced any advocacy of peace in the region.

He further said India has been involved in massive ceasefire violations along the Line of Control, and during last year committed over 1800 ceasefire violations resulting in 52 deaths.

Pakistan-US recrimination will not benefit anyone

Turning to United States failure in Afghanistan, the minister said Washington is not winning war in Afghanistan, despite spending billions of dollars and losing thousands of American lives, and Pakistan should not be made a scapegoat for this failure.

He said Pakistan has suffered losses of billions of dollars and rendered immense sacrifices of human lives in the war against terrorism. The minister said that the way forward in Pakistan-US relations is not through threats, issuing notices, and suspension of support as mutual recrimination will not benefit anyone.

Commenting on relations with Afghanistan, the minister said Pakistan sees Afghanistan as a sovereign neighbor and share historical bonds of culture, trade and religion. He said that Pakistan wants a peaceful, stable, prosperous and democratic Afghanistan.

The minister further said that Pakistan and China share the aim of internal reconciliation in Afghanistan, steadying Pak-India relationships, and stable security situation within Pakistan.

https://arynews.tv/en/india-misadventure-defence-minister/

 

[Hamza913]

Pakistan has lost every conflict it ever started with India.

PDF Pakistani members will never accept that the wars between India and Pakistan were detrimental for Pakistan.

We only lost in 1971 and the Siachen conflict, with only the former having significant consequences.

We won in 1947, 1965 was a stalemate, and we won in 1999.

Didn't think the Partition War counted but you are right, it was Pakistan that started it. Though perhaps Pakistanis lost more spiritually and in political freedoms than they gained in territory, don't you think?

Now you're changing the goal post to long term effects. Even then, you're still wrong.

Yes, we will say, they are mujahids like one in Kargil.

Hindustan suffered higher casualties in Kargil you numbskull. Not to mention our troops were outnumbered several times over, and still hold point 5353.

 

[Fledgingwings]

Bniya Dhoti pehan kar aisi ghalati kbhi nahi kare ga.

 

[Solomon2]

What is a loss? Regurgitation of less than facts does not help.

What is a "win"? For whom, exactly? The State? It's people? The law? Human rights?

...if Pakistan has lost every conflict, then so has India because had that not been the case, we would not be going through pages upon pages and threads upon threads on this issue.

India isn't out to conquer Pakistan, dude. Pakistani Army commanders know that quite well. That's why they are so often confident when they launch these conflicts: win or lose, their prestige goes up, so why not?

 

[XDescendantX]

Very well written. Far more professional, unbiased, and diplomatic than anything anyone anywhere has ever read coming from the country on Pakistan's eastern border known as the mother of terrorism (India).

 

[coffee_cup]

What is a "win"? For whom, exactly? The State? It's people? The law? Human rights?

Yes what is it?

Why don't you tell us and give a context within the endless war mongering of Israelis with her neighbors and constant provocations with countries as far as in South America, Africa, South Asia, Chechnya etc.

 

[Solomon2]

partition happened in 47, the war of Kashmir was in 48...

Maybe you and @dsr478 can work out your differences here as to whether the "war of Kashmir" was part of the Partition conflict or not. Me, I'm easy either way - and this quibble doesn't detract from the thrust of my arguments.

 

[Hamza913]

doesn't detract from the thrust of my arguments.

Yes it does, you said Pakistan lost every war. We haven clearly proven your statement to be false.

Now, buzz off.

 

[coffee_cup]

Yes it does, you said Pakistan lost every war. We haven clearly proven your statement to be false.

Now, buzz off.

Man, you are wasting your time. Spread the word. This dude will never answer any logical questions you ask about blatant human right violations, endless war mongering, jailing and branding liberal jews as "traitors" by extremist govt of Israel.

Because that does not fit his script.

I just wonder, why PDF administration is tolerating his endless hatred filled propaganda and venom he spits against Muslims in general and Pakistanis in particular.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Maybe you and @dsr478 can work out your differences here as to whether the "war of Kashmir" was part of the Partition conflict or not. Me, I'm easy either way - and this quibble doesn't detract from the thrust of my arguments.

I am unsure what you are trying to prove here? You mentioned that Pakistan has lost in all wars. I showed you the massive territory we gained in 1948 war in which you can fit many Israel, which all historians do class as the first official war between Pakistan and India. Your refusal to accept the reality and already established facts is not going to change anything.

 

[Hamza913]

I am unsure what you are trying to prove here? You mentioned that Pakistan has lost in all wars. I showed you the massive territory we gained in 1948 war in which you can fit many Israel, which all historians do class as the first official war between Pakistan and India. Your refusal to accept the reality and already established facts is not going to change anything.

Asalamu Alaikum

He's changing the topic so he can try and save face.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Asalamu Alaikum

He's changing the topic so he can try and save face.

He is a troll.