We need more J-10Bs

[PakShaheen79]

Well, technology is there to study.... You dont write your exam without Studying and Consulting your teacher. do You?... We Consult with those who are good in this field and start Researching on it or studying on it...

You speak as if , We asseble parts from differant countries and say " Here we Are, ready With LCA tejas,One of the best fighter aircrafts" ... If we had to do that we would have inducted LCA tejas in the bid 90's....

Now that You admit that pakistan is just not researching anything indigenous , Then Why do you have to insult our technnologies... The thing which your PAC is doing now, HAL has been doing since 80's...

Actually when i look at engine of first batch of LCA.. I can't help myself to conclude that this is exactly what you are doing. You are not even assembling its engine (talking about first batch) you are just putting them into LCA.

I am not insulting anything but trying to highlight a fact that LCA development proved that it is not Indigenous as far now.

Once again good luck to HAL and other organizations with their R & D.

 

[warlock21]

manufacturing a good and capable aircraft engine is something attracting lot of research, money and top of tht Interest in whole of Asia.... coz te race has started sometime back only and every now and then standards for Fighter aircraft engines raised by Western countries...... It is goo d for the industry..... but then due to this reason exciting work become redundant in R&D centers..... otherwise China, India are capable enough to make aircraft engine........ but then it doesn't full fil there need and demand of the Hour....

Let see.... as 1 chinese proverb says..... A journey of thousand miles start with a single step.

 

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Actually when i look at engine of first batch of LCA.. I can't help myself to conclude that this is exactly what you are doing. You are not even assembling its engine (talking about first batch) you are just putting them into LCA.

I am not insulting anything but trying to highlight a fact that LCA development proved that it is not Indigenous as far now.

Once again good luck to HAL and other organizations with their R & D.

You mind saying what Engine does JF-17 Uses, the so called Indiginious Fighter?

 

[PakShaheen79]

You mind saying what Engine does JF-17 Uses, the so called Indiginious Fighter?

Never in my sleep i called JF-17 indigenous... lol how a fighter can indigenous when it is not even built in country. It is JOINT VENTURE.

 

[warlock21]

Actually when i look at engine of first batch of LCA.. I can't help myself to conclude that this is exactly what you are doing. You are not even assembling its engine (talking about first batch) you are just putting them into LCA.

I am not insulting anything but trying to highlight a fact that LCA development proved that it is not Indigenous as far now.

Once again good luck to HAL and other organizations with their R & D.

are u commerce Graduate.... just wants to know.

 

[MZUBAIR]

India ----------- 2015 - 2020

229 Sukhoi Su-30MKI
170 Mig-21 Biason
120 SEPECAT Jaguar
64 MiG-29s
200 HAL Tejas
40 Mig 27
51 Mirage
126 MRCA
10 FGFA — under joint-development with the Sukhoi Corporation
10 MCA — india's indigenous stealth fighter
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Pakistan ----------- 2015 - 2020

250 JF-17
100 J-10B
~80 F-16 Block 52 and MLU
~80 Mirage III / IV
~55 F-7PG
~30 JXX
~50-70 Rafeal/Eurofighter (PAF will go for any one after Indian MRCA deal acc to Chief of Air Staff)
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Looks to me balance, keeping in mind that India is also focusing on China.

I think PAF should retire and sell all F-7, Mirage and A-5 Fantan (Almost 400 jets) before 2015. As other western countries do after retiring.

potential costumer for A-5 are North Korea, Sudan and Bangladesh.

potential costumers for F-7 Bangladesh, Iran, North Korea, Srilanka, Sudan, Tanzania, Yemen and Zimbabwe.

potential costumers for Mirage III / V Argentina, BD, Srilanka.


Selling these 400 old technology bird may be give some money to buy more 30 to 50 Rafeal / Eurofighter ........which are much batter then quality then these old birds.

 

[warlock21]

^^^^.. well I think u should also include IN's fighter aircrafts...+ by 2015 we have atleast 2 aircraft carriers....some more for them also.... If I am not wrong then 1 A/C is going to have 50 fighters on-board.

 

[MZUBAIR]

^^^^.. well I think u should also include IN's fighter aircrafts...+ by 2015 we have atleast 2 aircraft carriers....some more for them also.... If I am not wrong then 1 A/C is going to have 50 fighters on-board.

I am quoting jet fighters not A/C ....as the topic is "We (PAF) need more J-10Bs"

 

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Never in my sleep i called JF-17 indigenous... lol how a fighter can indigenous when it is not even built in country. It is JOINT VENTURE.

Lol so do You Import JF-17? Ofcourse not, Pakistan makes JF-17 just like chinese because they jointly developed it, and it belongs to both... I did not doubt the JF-17 thunder.... I said Its engine.... Look at the engine part alone... Its neither chinese nor of pakistan... Its russian... ....

And So, LCA is trying to be an Indiginious figher, otherwise, how long will it take to reverse engineer a good plane?

 

[warlock21]

I am quoting jet fighters not A/C ....as the topic is "We (PAF) need more J-10Bs"

well take a look again.... I am quoting figthters on A/Cs .

 

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well take a look again.... I am quoting figthters on A/Cs .

But Thats a part of INS Armada sir.....

 

[warlock21]

But Thats a part of INS Armada sir.....

ofcourse it is.. but tht doesn't mean they will not carry out A-to-A attacks and A-to-land attack......every navy in the world having fighter aircraft are used for all the roles during combat period...... they remain to their sea opertions within the country limit during peace time only..... during Kosovo and Iraq war US navy fighters attack on land also.. it is well known thing.

 

[Join]

ofcourse it is.. but tht doesn't mean they will not carry out A-to-A attacks and A-to-land attack......every navy in the world having fighter aircraft are used for all the roles during combat period...... they remain to their sea opertions within the country limit during peace time only..... during Kosovo and Iraq war US navy fighters attack on land also.. it is well known thing.

Hahaha, Sir, you have mistaken.... But as long its a part of Navy, It dosent count on the purchase list of IAF .... The discussion is just about IAF and PLAAF and PAF

 

[PakShaheen79]

Lol so do You Import JF-17? Ofcourse not, Pakistan makes JF-17 just like chinese because they jointly developed it, and it belongs to both... I did not doubt the JF-17 thunder.... I said Its engine.... Look at the engine part alone... Its neither chinese nor of pakistan... Its russian... ....

And So, LCA is trying to be an Indiginious figher, otherwise, how long will it take to reverse engineer a good plane?

True for first batch ... Rest will be Chinese one

 

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True for first batch ... Rest will be Chinese one

Hey thats not fair, how come? Pakistan has the license to build it, Its a joint development with China and Pakistan... So why do u have to Import the chinese version when you can make your version??