"We are a naval nation" Turkish Foreign Minister Cavusoglu

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Huns, Vandals, Visgoths != Ottomans

Huns , Seljuks , Ottomans = TURKS

You dodged the question what was Turkey doing with Britain and France against Russia in 1854

Crimean War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Only one time

on the other hand Europe+Russia attacked on the Ottoman Empire for 8 times

If the Ottomans won all the wars against Iran how much Persia stayed independent of Ottoman rule ?

THERE WAS NO PERSİA

sunni muslim Ottoman Empire never tried to rule shia muslim İran
Ottoman Empire always attacked on Europe and İran attacked Anatolia

İran was ruled by our brother Azerbaijan Turks ( safavid , qajar , afshar dynasties ) until 1925
still there are 35-40 million Turks in İran now
and supreme leader of Iran Ali Khamenei is a TURK

British helped persian SHAH pAHLAVİ to destroy Turkic dynasty in İran in 1925

 

[Foinikas]

TURKS vs all cowards ( portuguese,spaniards,italians,russians,germans,french,british,poles,etc ) for centuries

You know,what you still cannot understand even though I've showed it to you again and again here,is that many of these wars and battles you fought one vs one. And you had superior forces and yet you lost.

 

[Foinikas]

Today Egyptian-Greek Frigates can not stop even Turkish AKINCI and AKSUNGUR UCAVs armed with TRLG-230 supersonic Missiles

Imaginary weapons and assumptions that only YOU brag about. Even the other Turks here are realistic and see this a bit more objectively. You're the only person who thinks all Turkish weapons work,all shots will find the target and all enemy weapons will fail. A man who underestimates the Egyptian navy so easily,is nothing but a dreamer. You shouldn't even be on this forum given that you only spam,insult and constantly brag like a 15 year-old.

Agree! The only navy that can challenge Turkish Navy in Mediterranean is the Egyptian Navy. No other country in Middle East/Eastern Mediterranean comes close.

Not even Italy? Let's put France aside,not even Italy? Are you kidding?

 

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You know,what you still cannot understand even though I've showed it to you again and again here,is that many of these wars and battles you fought one vs one. And you had superior forces and yet you lost.

nahhhhhh

I've showed it to you
Ottoman Navy 5 times beat outnumbered Portuguese Navy

also I've showed it to you
Ottoman Empire fought Europe+Russia for 8 times
8 of 12 wars Russians were allies with Europe to fight against the Turks

 

[Apollon]

Nice dream .... keep dreaming dream is free
now our exploration ship in the black sea to find new gas reserves
we will return to the our EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean
and our Frigates already protect our EZZ .. Nobody can enter Turkish EEZ





if super power Ottoman Empire attacked on Portugal with full of power ... Ottoman Empire would crush Portugal like insect

but Ottoman Empire always fought in 3 fronts against Europe + Russia + İran

TURKS vs all cowards ( portuguese,spaniards,italians,russians,germans,french,british,poles,etc ) for centuries



when Ottoman Empire was busy to fight İtalians+Spaniards+Germans+Russians,Hungarians+Poles etc in Europe and Mediterranean Sea
Portuguese Navy attacked on S.Arabia , Oman , Yemen , İndia , İndonesia


We Turks always protected İslamic World against bandit christians

Ottoman Empire sent a little group of the Navy to kick Portuguese Navy to protect S.Arabia

Date 16 December 1517 Location Jeddah, Arabia and the Red Sea Result Ottoman victory End of Portuguese fleets in the Red Sea Annexation of Jeddah by the Ottomans End of the Mamluk regime

Ottoman Empire sent a little group of the Navy to kick Portuguese Navy to protect İndia

Strength
Commanders and leaders
Belligerents
Siege of Diu (1531)
Part of the Ottoman–Portuguese conflicts
Date 1531 Location Diu, Gujarat Sultanate Result Ottoman-Gujarati victory
Ottoman Empire Gujarat Sultanate	Portuguese Empire
Mustafa Bayram	Nuno da Cunha
12,000 men[1] 1 galleon[2] 17 galleys[2] several basilisks[2]	About 400[3] vessels: 14 galleons[4] 6 naus[4] 2 war caravels[4] 5 large supply junks[4] 2 galleasses[4] 12 galleys[4] 16 half-galleys[4] 228 light-galleys[4] 115 small craft and merchantships[4] 30,000 men,[5] including:

Ottoman Empire sent a little group of the Navy to kick Portuguese Navy to protect Yemen

Capture of Aden
Part of Ottoman–Portuguese conflicts (1538–1559)
Ottoman fleet in the Indian Ocean in the 16th century.
Date 26 February 1548 Location Aden, Yemen Result Ottoman victory Ottomans recapture Aden

Ottoman Empire sent a little group of the Navy to kick Portuguese Navy to protect Oman

Strength
Commanders and leaders
Belligerents
Capture of Muscat
Part of Ottoman campaign against Hormuz and Ottoman–Portuguese conflicts (1538–1559)
Map of the Ottoman campaign against Hormuz.
Date August 1552 Location Muscat 23.608611°N 58.591944°E Result Ottoman victory
Portuguese Empire	Ottoman Empire
	Piri Reis Seydi Ali Reis
60 galleys[1]	25 galleys 1200 troops[1] (4 galleons 25 galleys 850 troops[2])

Ottoman Empire sent a little group of the Navy to kick Portuguese Navy to protect Indonesia

Ottoman embassy to Aceh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ottoman Empire fought in 3 fronts against European alliance Army + Spanish-İtalian Navies + Portuguese Navy in 1538-1559

as always TURKS vs all cowards

Strength
Commanders and leaders
Belligerents
Battle of Preveza
Part of the Third Ottoman–Venetian War
Battle of Preveza, Ohannes Umed Behzad
Date 28 September 1538 Location near Preveza, Ionian Sea Result Ottoman victory[a][1]
Ottoman Empire Regency of Algiers	Holy League: Venice Papal States Genoa Spain Mantua Malta Portugal
Turgut Reis Hayreddin Barbarossa Sinan Reis Seydi Ali Reis	Andrea Doria Vincenzo Cappello Marco Grimani Ferrante Gonzaga Gianandrea Doria
122 galleys[2][3] 20,000 soldiers[2]	112 galleys 50 galleons 140 barques[2][3] 60,000 soldiers[2]

Do you think it was so easy to fund Ottoman Military power to fight Europe+Russia+İran in many fronts for centuries ?

İn İslamic World only TURKS did it around 1.000 years since 1096 CRUSADES

and except the Turks , Nobody could dare to fight Europe+Russia for centuries in history

Nope, you dont dare. All you dare is to drive your rust bucket infron cyprus. You never dared to cross our line. And btw sending your red rust bucket is useless anyways since we create so much noise disturbance, that its not working.

 

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Imaginary weapons and assumptions that only YOU brag about. Even the other Turks here are realistic and see this a bit more objectively. You're the only person who thinks all Turkish weapons work,all shots will find the target and all enemy weapons will fail. A man who underestimates the Egyptian navy so easily,is nothing but a dreamer. You shouldn't even be on this forum given that you only spam,insult and constantly brag like a 15 year-old.

who are others ? Most of You know nothing about militarry and weapons
only trolling and attack on president ERDOGAN ..... its your mission on PDF


I very well know what about worldwide military

reality is even new Egyptian FREMM Frigate armed with only 16 x ASTER-15 SAMs ( range of 30 km )

10 AKINCI UCAVs can fire 40 TRLG-230 supersonic missiles for swarm attack on Egyptian FREMM Frigate and GAME OVER !

16x SAMs never can stop 40 x TRLG-230 supersonic missiles for swarm attack

 

[Foinikas]

nahhhhhh

I've showed it to you
Ottoman Navy 5 times beat outnumbered Portuguese Navy

also I've showed it to you
Ottoman Empire fought Europe+Russia for 8 times
8 of 12 wars Russians were allies with Europe to fight against the Turks

I've repeatedly showed in this thread that you've lost the vast majority of your naval battles. The only few victories that you had,were during the 16th century. Before and after that,it was constant defeat.

And you have to make up your mind. On one hand you boast about "Superpower Ottoman Empire",on the other you give cheap excuses like "we were fighting 3 enemies,we had no money for war,we had Europeans and Russians against us".

On one hand you say "Russians were fighting us" on the other "haha pathetic Russians". So what if Europe and Russia fought you 8 times?
Do you know how many times French and English fought each other? Italians and French? Germans and French? Do you know how many times big nations fought each other for centuries? You have to decide,were you or were you not a big power at the time? Then don't nag about "oh oh we were fighting Europeans and Russians for centuries". Don't give me cheap excuses like "you need funds to fight such wars",when you proudly show us maps of the Ottoman Empire's greatest extend.

who are others ? Most of You know nothing about militarry and weapons
only trolling and attack on president ERDOGAN ..... its your mission on PDF


I very well know what about worldwide military

reality is even new Egyptian FREMM Frigate armed with only 16 x ASTER-15 SAMs ( range of 30 km )

10 AKINCI UCAVs can fire 40 TRLG-230 supersonic missiles for swarm attack on Egyptian FREMM Frigate and GAME OVER !

16x SAMs never can stop 40 x TRLG-230 supersonic missiles for swarm attack

You said "right now",well right now you DON'T HAVE 10 AKINCI AND 40 TRLG-230. That's what I'm telling you,dumbfuck.

We're talking about realistic scenarios,not wishful thinking.

 

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Nope, you dont dare. All you dare is to drive your rust bucket infron cyprus. You never dared to cross our line.

Hahahaha

little boy ... Turkish Navy kicked your Seville map when many times ORUC REIS research Ship did activities between Kastellorizo and Crete

go and cry to France
Turkish Frigates locked on even French Frigate and France cried in NATO

Nobody can steal our MAVI VATAN oil/gas reserves in the Eastern Mediterranean
Turkiye is right by international law

I've repeatedly showed in this thread that you've lost the vast majority of your naval battles.

yes TURKS vs Europe+Russia after the 16th century

and
4 won
7 lost

And you have to make up your mind. On one hand you boast about "Superpower Ottoman Empire",on the other you give cheap excuses like "we were fighting 3 enemies,we had no money for war,we had Europeans and Russians against us".

You Greeks go and create an Empire which ruled 44 countries in 3 continens and to fight in 3 fronts against Europe+Russia+İran for centuries

then come and discuss with the Turks


I am saying again except the Turks , Nobody could dare to fight Europe+Russia for centuries in history

 

[Foinikas]

Nobody can steal our MAVI VATAN oil/gas reserves in the Eastern Mediterranean
Turkiye is right by international law

Don't give us your trash AKP propaganda. You don't abide by international law,you don't sign charters for maritime law and you what you call "our oil/gas reserves" is the cheap excuse of stealing other countries' wealth,just like you did in Syria,just like you do everywhere you can sneak in when big countries have a lot of patience with you. Enough with the bullshit.

The only bandit country in the entire region,the only culprit,is Erdogan's Turkey. You have to start wondering,put it in your thick skull,that MAYBE a dozen countries aren't wrong,maybe you are the ones who are stirring up trouble and have expansionist ideas.

When you have pissed off Greece,Cyprus,Egypt,Israel,Syria,Iran,Armenia,Iraq often,half of Libya,Russia,USA,France,sometimes Italy,Lebanon and even Albania and Kosovo at some point,then you have to wonder "hey,maybe we are wrong?"

But of course,in your head,everybody is wrong except Erdogan's Turkey and everybody is a "liar" except you personally.

 

[Apollon]

Hahahaha

little boy ... Turkish Navy kicked your Seville map when many times ORUC REIS research Ship did activities between Kastellorizo and Crete

go and cry to France
Turkish Frigates locked on even French Frigate and France cried in NATO

Nobody can steal our MAVI VATAN oil/gas reserves in the Eastern Mediterranean
Turkiye is right by international law


yes TURKS vs Europe+Russia after the 16th century

and
4 won
7 lost






You Greeks go and creat an Empire which rule 44 countries in 3 continens and to fight in 3 fronts against Europe+Russia+İran for centuries

then come and discuss with the Turks


I am saying again except the Turks , Nobody could dare to fight Europe+Russia for centuries in history

Your red rust bucket can do nothing, since noise blocks its echo sensors. Thats why its constantly harrased by greek navy.

Does it anger you much?

In the end its simple, you cant fullfill your claim. We simply block it with noise. Your activity...is sailing in circles.

 

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You said "right now",well right now you DON'T HAVE 10 AKINCI AND 40 TRLG-230. That's what I'm telling you,dumbfuck.

you stupid dumbfuck

We have already 9 AKINCI UCAVs and to produce 24 units per year
also AKSUNGUR UCAV can carry 2 TRLG-230 missiles

I am not talking about KUZGUN , I am talking about TRLG-230
and we have hundreds of TRLG-230 Missiles even Azerbaijan used the first time TRLG-230 missiles in Karabakh

watch you stupid fuckwit

Don't give us your trash AKP propaganda. You don't abide by international law,you don't sign charters for maritime law

learn about international law

your bandit France can do nothing to steal our MAVI VATAN
Turkiye is not Syria or Libya or Mali

its not ERDOGAN's personal policy
MAVI VATAN Doctrine was created by Turkish Admirals even leftist politicans critize ERDOGAN why not to take 3/4 of Crete

 

[MMM-E]

Your red rust bucket can do nothing, since noise blocks its echo sensors. Thats why its constantly harrased by greek navy.

Does it anger you much?

In the end its simple, you cant fullfill your claim. We simply block it with noise. Your activity...is sailing in circles.

daydreamer Greeks

reality is , Nobody can enter Turkish EEZ
and Turkish Navy kicked American,İsraeli,French,İtalian research-drilling Ships out of Turkish EEZ


wth is weak-outdated Greek Navy ? go and cry to USA and France

 

[Foinikas]

to produce 24 units per year

"To produce"

That's the problem with your posts. Every time you say "to produce" or "can produce". But we're talking about now. You always talk theoretically,like Turkey could probably produce this this amount of units,in this amount of time. It's all theory and assumptions.

And with the Turkish economy and sanctions,these assumptions are even more baseless. In theory Turkey can produce hundreds of missiles in a time period. But that's not fact.

In theory,your new frigates and missile systems are good,as you claim. Well basically you claim they are superweapons,but let's just say they are good. But that's just theory. We're talking about naval weapons untested in the field of battle and made from a country that only relatively recently started developing such systems. Could they work? Yes. Could they fail? Of course.

But the problem with your stubborn childish thinking is that every single Turkish missile will find its target and every single enemy weapon will fail,countermeasures will not work and enemy tactics will prove inferior to Turkish weaponry.

That's the problem of your thinking. Your extreme nationalism stops you from being objective.

 

[Apollon]

daydreamer Greeks

reality is , Nobody can enter Turkish EEZ
and Turkish Navy kicked American,İsraeli,French,İtalian research-drilling Ships out of Turkish EEZ


wth is weak-outdated Greek Navy ? go and cry to USA and France

Tell me you claim our waters are turkish EEZ. You also claim nobody can enter this "EEZ"...

So how do we connect our islands? Evry day dozens of ships, ferrys and so on go to and between our islands. We fish, we transport, we build electric grid between them...how is that possible? I thought nobody can go into "your" EEZ?

 

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"To produce"

That's the problem with your posts. Every time you say "to produce" or "can produce". But we're talking about now.

And with the Turkish economy and sanctions,these assumptions are even more baseless. In theory Turkey can produce hundreds of missiles in a time period. But that's not fact.

its your lies and wishful thinking

Turkiye has enough money

and 9 AKINCI UCAVs were already produced and AKINCI is in mass production
also AKSUNGUR UCAVs entered into service for the Turkish Navy

dont worry
in a conflict , you will learn when hundreds of Turkish Missiles explodes on your head

Turkiye produced even TRLG-230 Missiles for Azerbaijan who used against Armenian military targets in Karabakh war