Watch out for Vietnam, says RI ambassador

[katarabhumi]

When you see a group of people (for example), even when there's no designated leader among them, you can tell who is the "leader" just by observing them, the way they interact with each other, which one among them who the rest tend to follow, which one is whose voice listened by the inside and outside of the group, etc. .. It is not automatically determined by who shout the loudest.

Asean leader bullshit.

Indonesia never claim to be a leader of ASEAN, we don't need to nor we crazy about it. If observers think and sees us one, what can we say?

Of course you can disagree but watch your manners, please.

The Chinese stage aggressive policy in the South China Sea, bringing some countries on verge of nuclear exchange but Indonesia hands are hidden behind the backs. Great leadership.

The problem with SCS must be solve with maturity not barking here and there. If VN despise China so much why don't VN cut all ties with them already?

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[nufix]

When you see a group of people (for example), even when there's no designated leader among them, you can tell who is the "leader" just by observing them, the way they interact with each other, which one among them who the rest tend to follow, which one is whose voice listened by the inside and outside of the group, etc. .. It is not automatically determined by who shout the loudest.



Indonesia never claim to be a leader of ASEAN, we don't need to nor we crazy about it. If observers think and sees us one, what can we say?

Of course you can disagree but watch your manners, please.



The problem with SCS must be solve with maturity not barking here and there. If VN despise China so much why don't VN cut all ties with them already?

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LOL they cant and they wont cut ties with China. As much as they hate to admit it, they are China's bitch and now they are trying to be U.S bitch. They are always sucking up to anyone, lol even when they were still split in two countries, they were bitch to two countries at the same time! Soviet's bitch and U.S bitch. They just cant stop being somebody else's bitch.

When 90% of your urban people cant buy cars....

They have no shame to their grandfather who were China's/Soviet's bitch!!! They are now trying to be capt. America's bitch! THEY MUST RESPECT THE HATS!!!

Good god, I am a good troller

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

The viets here has again proven the Chinese were right that they're a bunch of monkey.

Vietnam whole economy will grow no doubt about that but it will never reached the level of indonesia. What people seems to forget that the reason that Vietnam's economy are so strong are because its part of Chinese supply chain. Meaning the more Vietnam's economy grows the more dependant it is on China. A
lot factories in vietnam were used to be based in china. Until the rising labor cost & government crackdown on pollution drove them away.

Vietnam's problems are akin to Mexico. It will always be subservient to its larger country up north.

 

[S10]

1. Vietnam will not exceed Indonesia.

2. Vietnam will not match Japan or South Korea.

3. Vietnam's political and economic futures are dependent on its relationship with China.

Everything else is pure fantasy.

 

[Unknown-V]

When you see a group of people (for example), even when there's no designated leader among them, you can tell who is the "leader" just by observing them, the way they interact with each other, which one among them who the rest tend to follow, which one is whose voice listened by the inside and outside of the group, etc. .. It is not automatically determined by who shout the loudest.

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Agree.. IMHO, we can consider a country with biggest economy as natural leader. Biggest economy means biggest power. For examples:

Indonesia is the natural leader of SE Asia.
China is the natural leader of Asia.
Germany is the natural leader of Europe.
US is the natural leader of the world.

 

[IblinI]

The same guy who is boosting their nation's manufacturing capability is eagerly waiting for their first "Made in Vietnam" tank in the other thread.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

You invite the Russians to war game in the South China Sea and even in the Sea of Japan but complain when we invite our friends to beach parties? Chinese have no humor.

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We don't give a jack about war game, we have with India and even US on naval exercise, I'm talking about geo-politic, Vietnam had lost Soviet as mentor and hopelessly trying to find a new one to counter China.

 

[Viet]

The same guy who is boosting their nation's manufacturing capability is eagerly waiting for their first "Made in Vietnam" tank in the other thread.

Come on you can admit our upgraded tanks look great. Cheap but very effective, with new armor, pls pay attention to the main cannon.

Here more for chinese and Indonesia farmers: made in Vietnam tractors, harvesters and other machines. Not expensive at all. If you order 100 you get 1 free.

 

[nufix]

The same guy who is boosting their nation's manufacturing capability is eagerly waiting for their first "Made in Vietnam" tank in the other thread.

Good for him, maybe that tank should meet and play with its (much) younger brother from Indonesia?

 

[Viva_Viet]

Can you break down in numbers?

I post a figure previously we sold 1 billion shoe pairs to overseas customers last year, how many shoes you sold?


Natural bullshit. Leadership is proven by competence not by size of population. I can ask Africa to lead Indonesia.

Bro, u open this thread to show that VN over take Indonesia in export,then u won already. All Indonesia here admit that thing and convince themselves that they focus more on "domestic market" .

I also explained clearly why focusing more on "domestic market" will make the poor become poorer and finally starving like Lybia,Syria poor ppl.

So,let them be the next Lybia,Syria with more than 10% starving ppl waiting to overthrow the stupid leader.As I remember, Lybia under Colonel Qaddafi had higher GDP than Indonesia with less % of starving ppl

 

[nufix]

Bro, u open this thread to show that VN over take Indonesia in export,then u won already. All Indonesia here admit that thing and convince themselves that they focus more on "domestic market" .

I also explained clearly why focusing more on "domestic market" will make the poor become poorer and finally starving like Lybia,Syria poor ppl.

So,let them be the next Lybia,Syria with more than 10% starving ppl waiting to overthrow the stupid leader.As I remember, Lybia under Colonel Qaddafi had higher GDP than Indonesia with less % of starving ppl

It is not convincing idiot, it is hard fact. Go learn economics lah

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Bro, u open this thread to show that VN over take Indonesia in export,then u won already. All Indonesia here admit that thing and convince themselves that they focus more on "domestic market" .

I also explained clearly why focusing more on "domestic market" will make the poor become poorer and finally starving like Lybia,Syria poor ppl.

So,let them be the next Lybia,Syria with more than 10% starving ppl waiting to overthrow the stupid leader.As I remember, Lybia under Colonel Qaddafi had higher GDP than Indonesia with less % of starving ppl

LOL Domestic Consumption are one of the largest contributor to GDP. Why pay for extra shipping fee when you can just sell it in the local market &, can still earns a profit. It also means that many indonesian can afford the things we build. While Vietnamese can't. It also explains why Vietnam have the lowest GDP among the asean 6 countries.

 

[Viva_Viet]

LOL Domestic Consumption are one of the largest contributor to GDP. Why pay for extra shipping fee when you can just sell it in the local market &, can still earns a profit. It also means that many indonesian can afford the things we build. While Vietnamese can't. It also explains why Vietnam have the lowest GDP among the asean 6 countries.

Okay, so which essential services ( food, garment, phone, education etc ) are u good at and can beat foreign products in the local market ?? U failed in Car manufacturing cos it belong to JP bosses ( Toyota, Honda).

I google and see Indonesia is only good at Tobacco that kill million Indonesian instead

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Okay, so which essential services ( food, garment, phone, education etc ) are u good at and can beat foreign products in the local market ?? U failed in Car manufacturing cos it belong to JP bosses ( Toyota, Honda).

I google and see Indonesia is only good at Tobacco that kill million Indonesian instead [emoji23]

LOL Indonesian companies have the majority share on those foreign companies. If you want to do business you need to partner up with local companies. Danone, Nestle, Toyota in here are foreign in name only. Even Freeport has bend the knee & sold the majority of their share to the government.

Also to add many indonesian company invested in Vietnam. So what that makes Vietnam then? [emoji12]

 

[MacanJawa]

what it is thread about?