Washington, Seoul agree SKorean missiles' range increases to 800km

[Korean]

Except Beijing is 930 km away from Seoul, genius.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Baeng...A&ved=0CBEQpQY&sa=X&ei=6kBkUOfNJsSxxAG9woCoBg

 

[BigDaddyWatch]

Seoul's ability to strike Beijing with 5,000 ballistic and cruise missiles, originally intended for North Korea, limit China's options in use of military forces in unexpected events.

5000 missile's ? I don't think that America or Russia has that many missile's. And why would China intervene if something happens in North Korea i doubt that China is going to intervene this time and let the South Koreans and Americans sort things out.

 

[SQ8]

North Korea is the last thing on the mind of Washington these days

 

[Korean]

5000 missile's ? I don't think that America or Russia has that many missile's.

Korea does, because Korea plans to launch 1000 missiles/day for 5 straight days during the second Korean war. So we know the ROK has at least 5,000 ballistic and cruise missiles, and they are buying $6 billion worth more, at $1.5 million per round.

And why would China intervene if something happens in North Korea

China doesn't want to see F-22 and F-35 based in what was formerly North Korea.

And the US CBG will now be able to move up all the way to Liaoning, staying within Korea EEZ line. And the waters of the Yellow Sea would be infested with the US and ROK subs.

Because of this problem, the Chinese government has been making proposals behind close doors; that China would not intervene if the US agrees to not put US bases above the DMZ.

i doubt that China is going to intervene this time and let the South Koreans and Americans sort things out.

The reason the ROK is stockpiling missiles is because they don't trust China, and plans to end the war before China could mobilize and cross the Yalu river.

 

[Tshering22]

North Korea is the last thing on the mind of Washington these days

All thanks to you and your Talicronies.

Korea does, because Korea plans to launch 1000 missiles/day for 5 straight days during the second Korean war. So we know the ROK has at least 5,000 ballistic and cruise missiles, and they are buying $6 billion worth more, at $1.5 million per round.


China doesn't want to see F-22 and F-35 based in what was formerly North Korea.

And the US CBG will now be able to move up all the way to Liaoning, staying within Korea EEZ line. And the waters of the Yellow Sea would be infested with the US and ROK subs.

Because of this problem, the Chinese government has been making proposals behind close doors; that China would not intervene if the US agrees to not put US bases above the DMZ.


The reason the ROK is stockpiling missiles is because they don't trust China, and plans to end the war before China could mobilize and cross the Yalu river.

So.. you guys are preparing for a war? Already?

I thought it would be the Commies vs Samurai honestly..

 

[applesauce]

Well that is because you don't have a regard for any commonly agreed upon rule no matter how significant or otherwise your co-signatories are. After all, deception is the key word you use.

But there is no honor in that.

judge us after your own country has signed and ratified the MTCR and maybe the NPT or are you gonna agree that india has "no honor" and no regard for any "commonly agreed upon rule". indians as always big on talking small on action

 

[Korean]

So.. you guys are preparing for a war? Already?

Since 1953.

I thought it would be the Commies vs Samurai honestly..

When Japan and China fight a war, it would be over a few small islands, so think the Falklands War.

When Korea and China fight again, it would basically a world-war scale war, something that even the PLA is hesitant to fight because China has so much to lose this time and having another 500K PLA troops killed to keep Kim's regime alive is a hard sell.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Since 1953.


When Japan and China fight a war, it would be over a few small islands, so think the Falklands War.

When Korea and China fight again, it would basically a world-war scale war, something that even the PLA is hesitant to fight because China has so much to lose this time and having another 500K PLA troops killed to keep Kim's regime alive is a hard sell.

How would China lose, the verity of large number of smart weapons, equipment, long-short range missiles and bla bla how do you come to conclusion china will lose so much and 500K asured number.

The last thing south korea would want is to confront world second largest Armed Forces with second largest military expenditure to make sure enemy remains weak such as south korea.
Not interested to comment in a typical way but then again, reality is use of strategic nuclear weapons could potentially take s. korea back to stone age. I believe n. korea is not in the position that is was in 1952, it has mad weapons and ballistic missiles and chemical biological weapons. Alone the number of n. korea troops are enough to keep kim's regime alive. You should not be comparing yourself with China, you are to china like georgia to Russia.

Compare and see don't make your statement a laughing stock.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison.asp

 

[Korean]

How would China lose

The Communist China never won a war since 1950, with the exception of single victory against India.

how do you come to conclusion china will lose so much and 500K asured number.

Because that's how many the PLA lost the last time, and they could lose more in a quicker time because the ROK military's firepower is 100 times the last time the PLA battled.

The last thing south korea would want is to confront world second largest Armed Forces with second largest military expenditure to make sure enemy remains weak such as south korea.

The ROK army is designed to battle and crush 1.5 million communist troops. The firepower of the ROK army is such that the US doesn't plan to send a ground force reinforcement, because the US considered the ROK's ground force strong enough to battle the combined North Korean and Chinese ground forces.

Heck, the US confidence in the ROK army is such that the US's own ground troops deployed in Korea are commanded by Korean generals in the event of war.

reality is use of strategic nuclear weapons could potentially take s. korea back to stone age.

And China gets nuked in return.

Alone the number of n. korea troops are enough to keep kim's regime alive.

This statement shows you do not understand the context of war scenarios in East Asia. Starved North Korean troops are in no condition to fight, half of them suffer from malnourishment.

you are to china like georgia to Russia.

More like the Imperial Japanese Army to China back in 1943.

 

[Viet]

The ROK army is designed to battle and crush 1.5 million communist troops. The firepower of the ROK army is such that the US doesn't plan to send a ground force reinforcement, because the US considered the ROK's ground force strong enough to battle the combined North Korean and Chinese ground forces.

You are joking!
Unless you can tell me a little bit more how you are so confident? Did Korea ever face a two front war?

By the way how many times in history Korea fought against China, and what was the result?

 

[Korean]

You are joking!
Unless you can tell me a little bit more how you are so confident?

It is the same confidence in which the US has entrusted the command of its own troops in the hands of the Korean MoD in war time.

Did Korea ever face a two front war?

What two front war?

By the way how many times in history Korea fought against China, and what was the result?

The last time was September 675, in which 30K Korean troops crushed 200K Tang cavalry. There would be no more war between two until the Korean war, which ended in a draw but the PLA lost 500K troops in the desperate wave attacks to block the allied advances.

 

[Viet]

It is the same confidence in which the US has entrusted the command of its own troops in the hands of the Korean MoD in war time.

Really? any source for?

What two front war?

I mean Korea faced two enemies, alone! When and where?

The last time was September 675, in which 30K Korean troops crushed 200K Tang cavalry. There would be no more war between two until the Korean war, which ended in a draw but the PLA lost 500K troops in the desperate wave attacks to block the allied advances.

Only one time in ancient times! I wonder why Imperial China was so peaceful to you, considering the number of confrontations we had with them.

 

[AntoniSerbia]

South Korea could crush China like Imperial Japan without any help from the US. Tens of millions of Korean-philes in China would turn to help South Korean soldiers when the unbeatable South Korean armies occupy China to liberate them from dictatorship.

 

[Korean]

Really? any source for?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...epartment-command-us-troops-korea-2015-a.html

I mean Korea faced two enemies, alone! When and where?

"Two fronts" means fighting two wars in two different sides. The war against combined PLA-NK troops is not a two front war.

Only one time in ancient times!

Many before then. This was the last direct war until the Korean war.

I wonder why Imperial China was so peaceful to you

It was the issue to practicality, because China and Korea weren't direct border sharing neighbors, with some Altaic empire of various kinds standing in between for the most of the history. 6 and 7th century were the time when Korea and China were bordering each other.

considering the number of confrontations we had with them.

Nothing stood in between Vietnam and China.

 

[ViXuyen]

If we're talking about all out total war like world war 2 , then nobody can stand against the Chinese except India, Russia, and the U.S.

Modern day warfare is mostly based on air power. The Chinese can produce and replace their unlimited fighter losses as they wish while the rest can only buy and stockpile a limited # of fighters.

Once the Korean run out of fighter inventory, the Chinese can start sending in their bombers to destroy any ground forces of Korea like the U.S did in Iraq. There is no need for the Chinese to rush in 1.5 million ground troops, all they have to do is use their bombers to level Koreas and its ground forces to the ground.

Korea does not have the capabilities to produce fighters or the natural resources to do so. Even if Korea can produce, due to the huge population of China; one can easily assume that the rate and quantity of production will be on the Chinese side

Without fighters to replace to defend the air, Korea has absolutely no chance of killing even one single PLA soldier ( let alone 1.5 million). PLA bombers will just carpet bombing Korean ground forces as they like before any Korean can fire their guns.

The best for Korea is try to keep any conflict with China a limited one. A limited conflict with China the Korean can definitely win but if the Korean are asking for a world war full scaled conflict then Korea is just fighting a losing battle.