Was Mao Zedong Bad

[rott]

Says the Chinese who censure any word that says Genocide. It's funny how you blame the west for propaganda when you don't even allow even real news in the first place. Speaking of slaves of the west ironical it was the Chinese who kissed the American rear and betrayed the soviets. Didn't Mao propose sending Chinese girls to the US? That dude lived in cuckoo land.
If you're going to say the Mao era was hunky and dory. save it.

For Godsake you should stop posting, you sound even worse than your other brainwashed Indians in here.

 

[Chhatrapati]

For Godsake you should stop posting, you sound even worse than your other brainwashed Indians in here.

'Denial' is not a river in Egypt either.

Chinese in here live in a special land.

 

[jamahir]

Communism doesn't work kiddo, it is a stupid ideology and has never in history worked as equality is a myth, different individuals are not equal and different groups are not equal.

"From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs" .

Communism is more about :

1. The harmonious brotherhood of man.

2. Removing ( artificial ) socio-economic class boundaries, ensuring that a few citizens don't amass great wealth and others remain poor. I have proposed such an economic system in this thread.

3. Allowing citizens to actually participate in the running of society like was in Libya. You can read how this Libyan direct democracy system is in theory here and an indication of how it was in practice in this thread.

4. Making natural resources and means of production to become commons entities, managed by some committees on behalf of the citizens so that there are no unpleasant and unrequired disputes coming through one citizen claiming ownership to the detriment of others.

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I live in India which is an extremely capitalist and regressive society. To give you some facts, an astounding 300,000+ Indian farmers committed suicide for socio-economic reasons just between 1995 and 2015, people die of hunger while no stray dog in India goes hungry, people remain blind not because there is no cure but they don't have the money, students and professionals commit suicide for socio-economic reasons, there are honor killings... Such things. India needs communism. So does the rest of the world.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

@jamahir

Please recognize the deep sins of your establishment. I don't want to repost, so here's the old link (statistical data, not an opinion article).

Was Mao Zedong Bad

You have low IQ and bad Grammar. @not_two hurry up. I don't have the whole day. Enjoy dear ..I am watching match..

defence.pk

There may have been 200+ million victims in India alone from 1960 onwards.

This is what your regime is doing to the people of India.

BBC NEWS | South Asia | 'Hunger critical' in South Asia

 

[not_two]

"From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs" .

Communism is more about :

1. The harmonious brotherhood of man.

2. Removing ( artificial ) socio-economic class boundaries, ensuring that a few citizens don't amass great wealth and others remain poor. I have proposed such an economic system in this thread.

3. Allowing citizens to actually participate in the running of society like was in Libya. You can read how this Libyan direct democracy system is in theory here and an indication of how it was in practice in this thread.

4. Making natural resources and means of production to become commons entities, managed by some committees on behalf of the citizens so that there are no unpleasant and unrequired disputes coming through one citizen claiming ownership to the detriment of others.

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I live in India which is an extremely capitalist and regressive society. To give you some facts, an astounding 300,000+ Indian farmers committed suicide for socio-economic reasons just between 1995 and 2015, people die of hunger while no stray dog in India goes hungry, people remain blind not because there is no cure but they don't have the money, students and professionals commit suicide for socio-economic reasons, there are honor killings... Such things. India needs communism. So does the rest of the world.

How many farmers are there in India ..300 million ?
What's average suicide rate in the world??
11 for 100000 population per year ?
If we calculate by average what should be total numbers in 20 years ?
Around 600000 + right ??
Why are you making it catastrophic when suicide in farmer population is half of world average ??

 

[redtom]

China is more free than most countries in the world, if I read correctly, the worse that happens is that you get fines or reprimands for talking nonsense about the government and spreading fake news, in other respects China has far more freedom.

If CPC was really smart, it would lower the Great Firewall and unleash tens of millions of tech savvy Chinese internet users to raid comments sections of Western news media and Twitter.

It actually happened.But I don't think the GFW will be cancelled.Because Google has to pay taxes in China and is out of the control of the US government.It's impossible.

 

[beijingwalker]

'Denial' is not a river in Egypt either.

lol, yeah

India is nowhere in the world; denial won't work - Asia Times

The perceptions of Indian political leaders and top bureaucrats about their country's position in the world appear far removed from reality. These elites

asiatimes.com

 

[mudas777]

He did what's he felt right for the country and their was no malice in his heart and he didn't do anything for personal gain. Mistakes happens and goes to show he was also human but regardless of his mistakes greater good of the China was heart of the matter. He still managed to pull China out of misery and poverty no other dictators managed to do before him. Wish we had leaders like him too who have got the balls to purge our corrupt elite and of these family rules. West will always high light his mistakes no one mentions Trump incompetency which led to deaths of 100'0 of thousands of US citizens due to covet 19 in this day an age of information technology.

 

[jamahir]

There may have been 200+ million victims in India alone from 1960 onwards.

I know that there have been millions of unnecessary deaths in India but 200+ million ?

How many farmers are there in India ..300 million ?
What's average suicide rate in the world??
11 for 100000 population per year ?
If we calculate by average what should be total numbers in 20 years ?
Around 600000 + right ??
Why are you making it catastrophic when suicide in farmer population is half of world average ??

You are understanding these suicides from a bland, disconnected, non-empathetic mathematical POV.

So 300,000+ suicides just within 10 years don't really touch you ? 300,000 can be the population of a medium-sized town in India. If such a town is nuked by Pakistan or China what will be your reaction ? Outrage ? Why not the same reaction if capitalist criminals within India have caused these many deaths ? Why not the same outrage ? If I say to people in India that I want to eradicate 300,000 stray dogs out of India's 35+ million dogs there will be a national outrage among much of the Indian middle class. Where is their outrage about those suicided farmers ?

For me every single human life is sacred except when it is truly criminal. Have these suicided farmers committed any crime ?

If left to me I would take all those MBA-type field-agents of microfinance companies who force farmers to commit suicide, line them up against a wall and machine-gun them.

Tell me, why should any person commit suicide unless there are three 40-foot anaconda snakes outside his house waiting to swallow him and there's no escape ? Especially suicides because of very avoidable and artificial socio-economic reasons.

Please go back to my post you quoted and read that new economic system I have proposed.

Lol! Are you for real? A foreign NGO, dissenting against the government is OKAY? Not for us.

That particular NGO may have originated in a foreign country but it provided a platform for some Indians to point out wrongs in India. These dissenters were Indian.

Do you even know, before Hathras, a Dalit covid infected girl was raped in communist-ruled Kerala, in Ambulance by the driver, nobody even blinked. No protests, no picnics to Kerala by any Kancha llaiahs, Shehlas, or any bleeding hearts of JNU. Because it won't conform to their politics. In short, it's all about politics.

The Hathras case became high-profile because of the extreme torture that woman suffered and because of the blatant coverup done by the state administration. Did this happen in Kerala ?

D-Raga and his party CPI is already irrelevant.

CPI can be made "relevant" if a large part of the middle class especially can come out their selfish and non-contributory lives and put their support behind progressive groups such as CPI and of late the progressive youth leaders like Kanhaiya, Shehla and Umar.

 

[Chhatrapati]

That particular NGO may have originated in a foreign country but it provided a platform for some Indians to point out wrongs in India. These dissenters were Indian.

Then those particular people can create their own NGO's in India and raise voice. It's free for them to do so.

The Hathras case became high-profile because of the extreme torture that woman endured and because of the blatant coverup done by the state administration. Did this happen in Kerala ?

All these are assumed, it's an ongoing investigation right? Or did you became judge and jury? As for the case in Kerala, the accused is arrested, nobody raised any voice against the Dalit abuse. So, I guess selective amnesia took over.

CPI can be made "relevant" if a large part of the middle class especially can come out their selfish and non-contributory lives and put their support behind progressive groups such as CPI and of late the progressive youth leaders like Kanhaiya, Shehla and Umar.

It's like saying Jana Sangh can be made relevant just because Swamy is running it. No, you're now trying to deflect, CPI or CPIM they're all Communists, CPI doesn't represent the Communist party as much as CPIM. And I showed you the reality of the so-called Dalit loving, Brahmin hating, people's party.
At the end of the day, these Shehlas or Umars and Kanhaiyas all follow the same pattern. Indians should take examples from people like Bhavish Aggarwal or Rahul Sharma who climbed the economic ladder despite their humble origins. Not jobless politicians with their useless degrees and freeloading on taxpayers money.