Was J-20 deal done in 2011. Secret intelligence report by Stratfor

[BHarwana]

Okay, I promise not to respond to that Indian again. Kasmay.

Here i found some thing interesting to read

Cyber & China's J-20
From:larry.mckee@nsci-va.org To: larry.mckee@nsci-va.org Date: 2011-01-16 11:56 Subject: Cyber & China's J-20
Combination of excerpts from AF Association daily updates over the last few weeks. Following them is April 2009 Wall Street Journal article alleging China hacked into DoD computers containing F-35 design info. Hmmm.. --------------------------------------- China Didn't Get the Memo: The appearance of what is being called the J-20-China's new stealthy looking aircraft-seemingly beats predictions by Defense Secretary Robert Gates as to when China would join the stealth club. Justifying his decision to halt F-22 Raptor production at 187 airframes-less than half the Air Force's stated need-Gates said in June 2009 <http://r.listpilot.net/c/afa/5wtx8p0/1uvy9> that, in 2020, the United States would have "roughly 1,200" stealth combat aircraft while "the Chinese will have zero." Gates went on to say that five years later, in 2025, China would have "a few hundred" stealth aircraft, while the US would have 1,700. Just two months earlier, in April 2009, Gates reported seeing intelligence <http://r.listpilot.net/c/afa/5wtx8p0/2ikod> that Russia would achieve initial operating capability with a fifth generation fighter in 2016, while China would lag by four more years. A Gates spokesmen did not provide a comment by press time. The most recent official US multi-agency report on Chinese military capabilities, the annual report to Congress issued in August <http://r.listpilot.net/c/afa/5wtx8p0/2e8ms> , was utterly silent on the subject of a stealth capability for China, speaking only in broad terms about how China is pursuing "anti access" and "area denial" capabilities.

 

[Ultima Thule]

China always has room for Pakistan.

Not for their strategic technology

 

[BHarwana]

Not for their strategic technology

Currently the most strategic fighter in the world is JF-17, but you will never understand how.

Indian.

Please stop it. It is a request.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Indian.

prepare for your ban you israeli

Currently the most strategic fighter in the world is JF-17, but you will never understand how.

Kindly explain How JF-17 most strategic fighter of world if you have a logic i will understand bro

 

[BHarwana]

I'm going to bed. Fck this.

Here the HBGary email hack this was all about J-20 it is very interesting to read it gives a lot of info on US thinking and the development of J-20
https://wikileaks.org/hbgary-emails/emailid/61835

Kindly explain How JF-17 most strategic fighter of world if you have a logic i will understand bro

How many air to air missiles can F-35 carry?

 

[Ultima Thule]

How many air to air missiles can F-35 carry?

I don't know bro but i think its 6 to 8 internally, externally or both i am asking you to tell me how JF-17 is the most strategic fighter in the world? and you are asking me about F-35

 

[BHarwana]

I don't know bro but i think its 6 to 8 internally, externally or both i am asking you to tell me how JF-17 is the most strategic fighter in the world? and you are asking me about F-35

The cost of JF-17 gives you the most strategic advantage you can put hundreds in air who can match that. After BVR are used who can match the numbers?

F 35 can carry 4 aa missiles so number will always win over F 35.

 

[Ultima Thule]

The cost of JF-17 gives you the most strategic advantage you can put hundreds in air who can match that. After BVR are used who can match the numbers?

F 35 can carry 4 aa missiles so number will always win over F 35.

For Pakistan not for the world there is number of planes with similar philosophy and as for F-35 yes its can carry 4 missiles internally but externally and internally it can carry 12 air to air missiles an after it exhausting it can act as a powerful jammer and ISR platform

 

[BHarwana]

For Pakistan not for the world there is number of planes with similar philosophy

You put 250 JF-17 in air will 10 F-35 be able to dominate the skies? After 4 AAM those F 35 will need to run. F 35 is a force multiplier but with 4 AAM only 4x and some AAM will be evaded so lets make it 3x that means 30 JF 17 will be lost and 10 F 35 will be lost. Now please calculate the cost here. How many billions each country has suffered and the JF 17 side will not reach whole 1 billion but F 35 side will cross 6 billion in damages.

 

[帅的一匹]

First customer is PLAAF if they want to buy 500 J-20 then it will take 3 to 5 year to complete orders from PLAAF then they will think to lift the ban if they think SO

10 years to fulfill the deal, we can produce 48 J20 per years. May the production speed will increase in the coming years, still need at least 8 years.

 

[Ultima Thule]

You put 250 JF-17 in air will 10 F-35 be able to dominate the skies? After 4 AAM those F 35 will need to run. F 35 is a force multiplier but with 4 AAM only 4x and some AAM will be evaded so lets make it 3x that means 30 JF 17 will be lost and 10 F 35 will be lost. Now please calculate the cost here. How many billions each country has suffered and the JF 17 side will not reach whole 1 billion but F 35 side will cross 6 billion in damages.

bro what is taking about 250 JF-17 for just 10 F-35 and bro F-35 is strike jet not an air superiority or air dominance like F-22, PAK-FA and J-20, its main mission is ground strike, CAS, SEAD and DEAD

 

[BHarwana]

bro what is taking about 250 JF-17 for just 10 F-35 and bro F-35 is strike jet not an air superiority or air dominance like F-22, PAK-FA and J-20, its main mission is ground strike, CAS, SEAD and DEAD

Bro how many jets can US air ship carrier send in an air over china?

USA has 187 f22 operational and F 35 is plagued with problems any how china can win a war from USA with just large number of J-10 my point here is the cheaper the aircraft the more number and more you can dominate the skies.
Pakistan strategy has large number of JF-17. It will always be quality versus quantity in air.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Bro how many jets can US air ship carrier send in an air over china?

USA has 187 f22 operational and F 35 is plagued with problems any how china can win a war from USA with just large number of J-10 my point here is the cheaper the aircraft the more number and more you can dominate the skies.
Pakistan strategy has large number of JF-17. It will always be quality versus quantity in air.

what is you trying to tell, it seems you have a confusion if China wins wars with US with conventional jets why they are developing J-20 and J-31 and quality is always wins for example BOTH INDIA PAKISTAN WARS

 

[BHarwana]

what is you trying to tell, it seems you have a confusion if China wins wars with US with conventional jets why they are developing J-20 and J-31

What is the aerial role of J 20?

 

[Ultima Thule]

What is the aerial role of J 20?

Air superiority Air superiority Air superiority