Was it actually Pakistan !!!!

[Mirza Jatt]

We simply do not have the power to prosecute the handlers. Do it if you can. You will be doing us a favour ! However, I doubt that even you would be willing to do it if you knew who they are !

what are you saying man ???

 

[karan.1970]

Pakistan economy was growing at 5-8% for several years until 2008.

You are kidding me.. After 1992, the first time Pakistani economy crossed 5% was in 2003..It peaked in 2005 at 7.67 and from there the downhill began..

2006--6.18%
2007--5.68%
2008--2.0%
2009 --3.3%


Google - public data

 

[karan.1970]

The fact of the matter is someone derailed the peace talks on purpose, especially looking at how the afghanistan war is turning out. Pakistan's booming economy, gwadar port and china. Area was sufficiently stable and that attack triggered a serious danger to Pakistan internally and externally.

Also as I remeber, Soviets tried to make Pakistan and India go to war so it helps their occupation of Afghanistan.

www.outlookindia.com | KGB Diary

You really believe that 26/11 was engineered to derail Pakistani economy..

Just as a refresher.. Pakistan almost went bankrupt in 2008 before IMF stepped in with a bailout package (which downgraded Pakistan's credit rating to junk levels). The bailout package which put severe restriction on GoP's discretion on Pakistan's economic policies was put in place in Oct 2008.. A month before 26/11

How much more derailment of Pakistan's economy was some one looking for. The country was as it is almost bankrupt at that time..

If at all, one could argue that it could have been a conspiracy to divert attention away from the sad state of economy by inciting India into a military response..

 

[karan.1970]

I am not saying that Indian Government or Indians had a hand in this. All I am saying is that some groups or countries would have benefited from the damaged relation between India and Pakistan.

This I agree One hundred percent to...

 

[HAWK73]

So you are blaming Indian establishment for organizing Mumbai attacks??

Its a little akin to saying ISI supports TTP and organizes the bomb blasts happeneing all over Pakistan..Isnt it??

No doubt about that, that Mumbai Attack was India`s own made drama against Pakistan. That was Congress & RAW`s productions. Maybe VHP & BJP too were involve with it.

 

[James007]

We simply do not have the power to prosecute the handlers. Do it if you can. You will be doing us a favour ! However, I doubt that even you would be willing to do it if you knew who they are !

we can but u.s doesnt allow us,u know how to get this situation perfectly,unfortunately our govt is not even looking to our needs

 

[SMC]

Its both apples however they seem to be rotten.

And as long as we are going for conspiracy theories.. Lets look what Pakistani army can gain by sponsoring TTP attacks within Pakistan

1. Continued hold on country's defence and foreign policy despite having a democratically elected govt

2. Continued festering of hatred towards India by blaming India for the false flag bomb blasts in Pakistan

3. Getting military aid and equipment from the world on pretext of fighting terror

4. Justification for focussing on TTP and not attacking AT which is considered as a strategic ally

5. Blaming Indian presence in Afghanistan


and I can go on..

So as I said I don't believe that PA is sponsoring TTP attacks in Pakistan but I would not be surprised if it was....

If PA was doing it to blame India and Indian presence then it would be going much more aggressively after indian presence in Afghanistan. Only occassional blame has been done. Only possible benefit is the military aid. The losses heavily outweigh the gains however. This is very different from Mumbai attacks anyone could see that the gains for GoI outweighed the losses.

The two things simply cannot be compared. Simple as that. You'd be using you spin skills and a whole bunch of simplistic arguments to suggest the two can be compared.

 

[SMC]

You are kidding me.. After 1992, the first time Pakistani economy crossed 5% was in 2003..It peaked in 2005 at 7.67 and from there the downhill began..

2006--6.18%
2007--5.68%
2008--2.0%
2009 --3.3%


Google - public data

So how was I wrong? I said for several years until 2008. So that implies for several years upto and including 2007. And was I wrong?

 

[ramu]

No doubt about that, that Mumbai Attack was India`s own made drama against Pakistan. That was Congress & RAW`s productions. Maybe VHP & BJP too were involve with it.

Best conspiracy theories : a brief recap

NASA never landed anything on the moon
9/11, a US self goal
26/11, an Indian conspiracy against Mumbai

Hawk, my humble request is that you should read from an independent and neutral source about the incident and make your own opinion.

Last Night's Television - Dispatches: Terror in Mumbai, Channel 4; The Conspiracy Files: 7/7, BBC2 - Reviews, TV & Radio - The Independent

Anybody who understands English will know how naive this thread is.

 

[RobbieS]

No doubt about that, that Mumbai Attack was India`s own made drama against Pakistan. That was Congress & RAW`s productions. Maybe VHP & BJP too were involve with it.

What? No Mossad and CIA? You disappoint me.

 

[riju78]

No doubt about that, that Mumbai Attack was India`s own made drama against Pakistan. That was Congress & RAW`s productions. Maybe VHP & BJP too were involve with it.

couldnt agree with u anymore...it was CONGRESS, RAW, VHP, BJP y did u leave CPM and other left parties?? and also CIA, MOSSAD MI6..

it pains me sometimes that people dont use common sense

 

[humanfirst]

When mumbai attacks happened many pakistanis considered it's an inside job and ajmal kasab was amar singh etc..But it's two years now and much more is now known regarding mumbai attacks
*The attackers used voip to communicate and from the records of the us based voip provider callphonex,their communication was traced back to pakistan.The voice transcript still exists
*Yamaha corp representative testified in numbai and fbi courts that the yamaha boat engine used by the attackers where shipped to karachi,undeniably proving that they came from karachi
*Investigation done by geo tv proved ajmal kasab is indeed a pakistani,shattering the amar singh and his wrist band hypothesis
*2 pakistanis who helped to finance the terrorists voip communication were arrested in italy,by italian police.
*Pakistani canadian devid hedly who got arrested in usa has admitted in conspiring mumbai attacks,and have revealed details of his associates in pakistan,on whom investigation is currently underway
Not just this but many more proofs were included in the dossier handed over to pakistan and pakistani govt admitted that attackers were pakistani and atleast a part of planning was done in pakistan.Other than that,the same dossier was GIVEN TO 20 OTHER COUNTRIES,to increase pressure on pakistan.NOT EVEN A SINGLE COUNTRY WHO RECIEVED THE DOSSIER DOUBTED IT WAS FABRICATED.(Can we even imagine pakistan giving it's proof of indian involvement in terrorism to atleast one friendly nation,let alone 20 It will never happen we all know why)And still..Still after all these evidence,many wants to belive it's an inside job..How pathetic.And about india profiting from it,pakistan is humilated and india gains when pakistani non state actors are found to be linked with bombings in london or madrid or any part of the world..It's not goi's fault,even though it helps goi in it's agenda to tarnish the already pathetic image of pakistan.

 

[karan.1970]

If PA was doing it to blame India and Indian presence then it would be going much more aggressively after indian presence in Afghanistan. Only occassional blame has been done. Only possible benefit is the military aid. The losses heavily outweigh the gains however. This is very different from Mumbai attacks anyone could see that the gains for GoI outweighed the losses.

The two things simply cannot be compared. Simple as that. You'd be using you spin skills and a whole bunch of simplistic arguments to suggest the two can be compared.

You are simply in denial.. I have listed just 4 but can come up with 10 more.. I however believe both situations are conspiracy theories and are as similar as it gets.. You can choose to believe otherwise.

 

[ramu]

You are simply in denial.. I have listed just 4 but can come up with 10 more.. I however believe both situations are conspiracy theories and are as similar as it gets.. You can choose to believe otherwise.

Won't be required. Each of us have a favourite search engine and that I am sure will do the job. Here if people want to bury themselves in denial, none can help.

 

[karan.1970]

So how was I wrong? I said for several years until 2008. So that implies for several years upto and including 2007. And was I wrong?

Ok.. I didnt realize you were calling 5 years as several years since in terms of macro economics a 5 year run is a fairly small period. Specially if 2 out of those 5 are on a declining trend. My bad..