Was China's WTO accession 20yrs ago the start of West's suicide?

[Stranagor]

Japan at the height never threatened US and their allies in the pacific. China does.

They threatened the US economically, which is the biggest sin. Without strong economy, one cannot have strong military.

But US took care of Japan. It has never managed to take care of China. Hence the frustration.

 

[Viet]

They threatened the US economically, which is the biggest sin. Without strong economy, one cannot have strong military.

But US took care of Japan. It has never managed to take care of China. Hence the frustration.

Japan has no nuclear weapons. Chinese threaten anyone who stands in their way. Japan never sends oil platforms accompanied by warships to Vietnam Eez.
They really seek war with Vietnam.

 

[Beast]

China is a nation of manufacturing yes

Innovation no

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Japan has no nuclear weapons. Chinese threaten anyone who stands in their way. Japan never sends oil platforms accompanied by warships to Vietnam Eez.
They really seek war with Vietnam.

Lol.. are u high on grass? The one who always threaten others with nuclear weapon is US. Did US say they agree to no first use policy? No.
Did China agree to no first use policy? Yes.

See who is the nuclear aggressor.

 

[Stranagor]

Japan has no nuclear weapons. Chinese threaten anyone who stands in their way. Japan never sends oil platforms accompanied by warships to Vietnam Eez.
They really seek war with Vietnam.

Japan posed enormous economic/technological threat to the US. That's the bottomline for the US.

Threat is a tool in foreign diplomacy, but, if used excessively, it will loose effectiveness.

China says it only operates in its own EEZ. Vietnam says otherwise. The smart and strong will get what they want. The weak will whine and seek sugar daddies as a good mistress.

 

[Viet]

Japan posed enormous economic/technological threat to the US. That's the bottomline for the US.

Threat is a tool in foreign diplomacy, but, if used excessively, it will loose effectiveness.

China says it only operates in its own EEZ. Vietnam says otherwise. The smart and strong will get what they want. The weak will whine and seek sugar daddies as a good mistress.

In reality even an economic big guy on world stage Japan is too small to pose a challenge to the US. what they failed to understand Japan was inflated by a gigantic property bubble, she is good in cars, electronics and Hightech however no software industry. No Microsoft, no Netscape, no Sun.

 

[Beast]

In reality even an economic big guy on world stage Japan is too small to pose a challenge to the US. what they failed to understand Japan was inflated by a gigantic property bubble, she is good in cars, electronics and Hightech however no software industry. No Microsoft, no Netscape, no Sun.

Then why US forced Japan to sign the plaza accord? To benefit US or Japan?

 

[Song Hong]

During WTO ascension, the West strategy is not wrong either -- forcing China to open up the market so that Western industrialized product destroy local companies. Something like how the West destroyed the post USSR industrial system.

The strategies work at the first phase.

Incidentally, there was massive layoff in many SOE, and many bankruptcies. Many SOEs was sold to the white man. Even Huawei was nearly sold to Motorola. The opening up of China resulted to massive trojan horse such as Ali and Lenovo, all controlled by white man in one way or another -- that still harm China till today.

Long Yongtu the WTO negotiator was labeled a traitor and has lost power since.

However, the West under-estimate the ability of Chinese to upgrade their industrial system. Using the opportunities to buy western equipment and software as well as partial opening up of West to China, China renew her industries quickly.

Without the intelligence and diligent of Chinese people, the WTO will render China to be Ukraine 2.0.

 

[Viet]

Then why US forced Japan to sign the plaza accord? To benefit US or Japan?

Japan has a big trade surplus she accumulated dollars same like China today normally the Yen would increase in value however it was not the case. The dollar in contrast stands under extreme pressure not only because of deficits but the loss of Vietnam war.
By the way Germany was forced to appreciate the currency too.
Ok funny I say here as if I stand before a classroom.

 

[Beast]

Japan has a big trade surplus she accumulated dollars same like China today normally the Yen would increase in value however it was not the case. The dollar in contrast stands under extreme pressure not only because of deficits but the loss of Vietnam war.
By the way Germany was forced to appreciate the currency too.
Ok funny I say here as if I stand before a classroom.

Nonsense. US are losing the edge. Forcing all it's conquer parties to sign the unequal treaty to ensure the supremacy of US.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Japan has a big trade surplus she accumulated dollars same like China today normally the Yen would increase in value however it was not the case. The dollar in contrast stands under extreme pressure not only because of deficits but the loss of Vietnam war.
By the way Germany was forced to appreciate the currency too.
Ok funny I say here as if I stand before a classroom.

Japan's spine has been broken twice by the US.

 

[Viet]

Nonsense. US are losing the edge. Forcing all it's conquer parties to sign the unequal treaty to ensure the supremacy of US.

Ah come you are no difference maybe just camouflaged in communist style.

 

[somsak]

The Zhou people agreed to join shang Country as a vassal state. In 3 generations, the Zhou poeple toppled the Shang Country from within. Then the Zhou people became Zhou dynasty.

 

[Beidou2020]

Japan at the height in the 80s never threatened US and their allies in the pacific. China does.

Japan is a colonised country. It is not an independent country.

China is a fully independent country with an independent foreign policy.

 

[letsrock]

During WTO ascension, the West strategy is not wrong either -- forcing China to open up the market so that Western industrialized product destroy local companies. Something like how the West destroyed the post USSR industrial system.

The strategies work at the first phase.

Incidentally, there was massive layoff in many SOE, and many bankruptcies. Many SOEs was sold to the white man. Even Huawei was nearly sold to Motorola. The opening up of China resulted to massive trojan horse such as Ali and Lenovo, all controlled by white man in one way or another -- that still harm China till today.

Long Yongtu the WTO negotiator was labeled a traitor and has lost power since.

However, the West under-estimate the ability of Chinese to upgrade their industrial system. Using the opportunities to buy western equipment and software as well as partial opening up of West to China, China renew her industries quickly.

Without the intelligence and diligent of Chinese people, the WTO will render China to be Ukraine 2.0.

why do you say ali and lenovo are trojans.

 

[aziqbal]

Japan's spine has been broken twice by the US.

yes but never by China dont get too happy