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Wary of Offending Japan, India Sits on Chinese Invite to WW II Memorial Parade
Published August 2, 2015 | By admin
SOURCE: EXPRESS NEWS SERVICE

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India is still in two minds about participating in China’s World War II commemorative parade to be held next month. The anti-Japanese sentiment implicit in this Chinese remembrance has put New Delhi in a dilemma given its blossoming ties with Tokyo.

Beijing has been turning the spotlight on Japan’s wartime legacy, arguing that Tokyo never faced up to its actions as it occupied large parts of East and South-east Asia. The parade will certainly serve as a reminder of the millions of Chinese lives lost during Japanese occupation from 1937 to 1945. Japan’s worse war-time massacre took place in Nanking, then capital of short-lived Republic of China, where estimates of dead range from 50,000 to 300,000.

Official sources confirmed India received an invitation to attend the mega parade at Tienanmen Square on September 3, 2015. This is the first time ever that China is holding a big military parade to mark the victory of Allied powers in 1945. It will also be the first time that President Xi Jinping will supervise a military parade since his elevation to the top job.

The invitation, of course, arrived much earlier last month, but no decision has been made in South Block yet. “We got the invitation, but have yet to decide on our level of representation,” said a source.

Japan signed a formal surrender on September 2, 1945, which was celebrated by China the next day with victory celebrations. Incidentally, while communist and nationalist forces together resisted the Japanese, most military historians believe that the Kuomintang, who fled to Taiwan, did most of the fighting. Chinese nationalist soldiers were brought to India to be trained by Americans.

For this year only, Chinese communist party also declared September 3 as a public holiday to allow for “broad participation of the entire nation”. The official name of the public holiday is “The 70th anniversary of Chinese People’s Anti-Japanese War and the World Anti-Fascist War Victory Commemoration Day”. China has been extremely coy about revealing the names of the foreign countries who have been invited to attend as well as contribute troops for the parade.

According to media reports, western countries are also in a dilemma about attending the parade, which taking place at Tienanmen Square will be pregnant with symbolism.

Perhaps anticipating such reluctance, China Daily had in a commentary said, “China has no intention to taunt Japan by showing off its military mighty, even when Japanese politicians’ words and actions intensify tensions in the East Asia”. This was published on June 23 when China unveiled its plans for the parade.

“This is essentially propaganda, as the Chinese try to score a victory just like AIIB (Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank) and to see how many will bite,” said Jabin T Jacob, assistant director of the Institute of Chinese Studies, Delhi. As China has flexed its muscles militarily and aggressively, Japan has courted India intensively, both economically, politically and increasingly with cooperation on the defence side.

With PM Narendra Modi having forged a personal rapport with Japanese PM Shinzo Abe, Japan would certainly be hoping that India’s presence at the parade is not at a very high-level. Abe is scheduled to give a speech on August 15, where he is expected to express remorse, but stop short of an full apology, which will certainly rankle China and South Korea, who have alleged that Japan has never been contrite enough.

It is learnt that just before the Shanghai Cooperation Summit in Ufa last month, Japan had approached India to help tone down any phrase in the summit declaration related to the World War, especially on Japanese militarism. New Delhi had to remind them India is still not officially a Shanghai Cooperation Organisation member.

During Modi’s visit in September last year, Japanese PM had mentioned that Justice Radhabinod Pal was the only judge at the war tribunals who refused to find Japan guilty for the Second World War.

“India’s decision will be dictated by its national priority,” said Jacob.
 
What's the Big deal... INdia should say a BIG NOOOOO... Japan is more Important for us than China
 
@Nihonjin1051 this is what I was talking about in the other thread - every word and action has significance in international diplomacy.

There are choices being made and re-shaping of old world order is in place my friend.
 
Nothing new - During the fiftieth anniversary of Japan’s surrender in the Second World War in Hawai in 1995, Indian government refused to participate as it didn’t wish to be associated with Churchill’s war. To represent the Indian soldiers, Pakistan, which didn’t even exist in 1945, was invited and honoured for its role in Japan’s defeat at the commemoration ceremony.

Though it is only in the recent years that India has started sending its military contingent to foreign parades like the Moscow Victory Day Parade and the Bastille Day celebrations in France.
 
we should mark it in India,for the soldiers who took part in WW II..Indians fought both for and against of allied powers(Indian Legion,Battaglione Azad Hindoustan,INA and such)..
 
china is hostile country while japanese are our friends, how could chinese even think of inviting us to such a parade. utter nonsense.
 
This politics will never end. I think India should say NO and show the Chinese we can insult in return.
 
We have nothing against China ... infact we are happy that you defeated the invaders...

But We should never participate in any World War Parades ...

World war and its Victors represents the Misery of our people... They extorted our Young men , our food grains, money and our Independence for a war which was not ours...

And in return gave us Slavery, Famine , Humiliation and death ... The Indian men who participated in your world war where not men of the Free India ... They didnt participate in a war for the glory of our Motherland or for defending our People...

It is our Resolve that we would never Invade foreign Land and put their people in slavery which was did to us by the British at the same time we wont take up arms and fight neither for US or Israel or Veitnam or any other country...

unless the fight is for poor , needy and enslaved people ... And the Fight for the Defense of Mother Land...
 
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'This is the first time ever that China is holding a big military parade to mark the victory of Allied powers in 1945. '

Why is it the first time the CCP suddenly decided to hold such an event? o_O
Despite the fact that China suffered more casualties than any other country by far, you will think they would have been marking such a memorable day every year.

Meanwhile all the victors(P5) of WWII have been holding such parades to mark this events for over a century since the end of the war.

@Chinese-Dragon , @ChineseTiger1986 , @XiangLong @cnleio ,@Nihonjin1051 ,@Shotgunner51 et al. Any particular reason for this strange delay?
 
So Japan openly expresses that it doesn't want to respect the post-WWII order?

Then let them be, China will only gain more moral high ground.
 
Quote From the article:
'This is the first time ever that China is holding a big military parade to mark the victory of Allied powers in 1945. '

Why is it the first time the CCP suddenly decided to hold such an event? o_O
Despite the fact that China suffered more casualties than any other country by far, you will think they would have been marking such a memorable day every year.

Meanwhile all the victors(P5) of WWII have been holding such parades to mark this events for over a century since the end of the war.

@Chinese-Dragon , @ChineseTiger1986 , @XiangLong @cnleio ,@Nihonjin1051 ,@Shotgunner51 et al. Any particular reason for this strange delay?

Because the article fails to mention that V-day has been taken together with Armed Forces Day for (I think) practicality. Although 3 September is still a recognized date in China, it falls too close with Armed Forces Day, which is on the 1st of August. It would mean two seperate military parades in just 1 month?

And why the CCP ''suddently'' decided to hold a military parade? Because it has been 70 years ago that the most destructive human conflict in history came to an end, which also involved China. It doesn't actually even matter that we just decided to do a parade now. For example, did you know that a few a months ago in June, it has also been over 200 years ago that Napoleon had been defeated in Waterloo? Europe celebrated a ''free'' and ''sovereign'' Europe, while there was a massive reenactment in Waterloo involving OVER 8000 men while nobody in Europe even commemorates the 18th of June, except this 18th June in 2015.

Have a belated Victory-Over-Napoleon-Day! XD :cheers:
 
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Because the article fails to mention that V-day has been taken together with Armed Forces Day for (I think) practicality. Although 3 September is still a recognized date in China, it falls too close with Armed Forces Day, which is on the 1st of August. It would mean two seperate military parades in just 1 month?

And why the CCP ''suddently'' decided to hold a military parade? Because it has been 70 years ago that the most destructive human conflict in history came to an end, which also involved China. It doesn't actually even matter that we just decided to do a parade now. For example, did you know that a few a months ago in June, it has also been over 200 years ago that Napoleon had been defeated in Waterloo? Europe celebrated a ''free'' and ''sovereign'' Europe, while there was a massive reenactment in Waterloo involving OVER 8000 men while nobody in Europe even commemorates the 18th of June, except this 18th June in 2015.

Have a belated Victory-Over-Napoleon-Day! XD :cheers:

Well. I do have an idea why the CCP hasnt hold any parade to mark such an event since it took power in 1949. Was thinking you will shed some honest light into this, but seems you dont want to venture there. :D
 
Nothing new - During the fiftieth anniversary of Japan’s surrender in the Second World War in Hawai in 1995, Indian government refused to participate as it didn’t wish to be associated with Churchill’s war. To represent the Indian soldiers, Pakistan, which didn’t even exist in 1945, was invited and honoured for its role in Japan’s defeat at the commemoration ceremony.

Though it is only in the recent years that India has started sending its military contingent to foreign parades like the Moscow Victory Day Parade and the Bastille Day celebrations in France.

Look you ignorent mutt, neither did India. What existed then was British Raj. Just because there was a name hanging around called "India" does not mean the friggin republic you live in existed. The name "Atanz" might have been around 100 years ago but I certainly did not exist.

There was a British colony that was a precursor to Indian Republic, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Can you understand this simple concept. All territory and assets that belonged to British Raj were handed over to the successor states. Pakistan was one of them. Many of those fighting regiments were recruited from people who would go onto constitute Pakistan. Ever heard of Frontier Regiments, Punjab Regiments or Baloch Regiments which actually did most of the fighting for the British Raj in WW2 are now in Pakistan. Have a look at the Victoria Cross winners and see where they came from. Yes, what is now Pakistan.

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Here is a article on the Pashtuns, Punjabis of what is now Pakistan who provided most of men to the British Indian Army who fought in both world wars.

http://www.csas.ed.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/48674/WP24_Shaheed_Hussain.pdf
 
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