War in Ukraine: Erdogan’s greatest challenge yet

[Foinikas]

They could do limited damage but they will eventually have to put troops on the ground and the route they will use could be Georgia but they will march into another wall.. Hence the scenario will play out as I said. There is no guaraantee of success it is like just marching in and hoping for the best and I am not ruling out Russia gaining the upper hand after years of crulling grinding of war but the reality is there is no guraantee for that within the calculation of possiblities because they could get smoked and the Turks themselves could push back into Russia.. It is sort of like in the grey zone of things from the tactical POV

Years? Why years? I'm talking about Russians hitting Turkish military and civilian infastracture in big attack. They have way more aircraft,artillery and equipment than the Turks. And more Air Defence systems.

 

[Battlion25]

Years? Why years? I'm talking about Russians hitting Turkish military and civilian infastracture in big attack. They have way more aircraft,artillery and equipment than the Turks. And more Air Defence systems.

Not feasible because they have neat air defense systems and can neutralize Russian airforce but still Russia could hit stragetic assets or infrastratcture and Turkey also have capability to strike assets inside Russia but in both occasions they will not alter anything or tilt the fight towards anyone..

Victory is by Russian or Turkish forces completely overrunning their foes territories and vice versa? correct? The scenario I gave you was based on that but not limited strikes but completely conquering scenario.. But infrastracture damage here and there won't alter how it is eventually gone fall out..

Example you will not win over China by damaging some infrastracture in Beijing or even over half of it but you will have to overrun the chinese

 

[Foinikas]

Not feasible because they have neat air defense systems and can neutralize Russian airforce but still Russia could hit stragetic assets or infrastratcture and Turkey will also have capability to do the same but in both occasions they will not alter anything or tilt the fight towards anyone..

Victory is by Russian or Turkish forces completely overrunning their foes territories and vice versa? correct? The scenario I gave you was based on that but not limited strikes but completely conquering scenario.. But infrastracture damage here and there won't alter how it is eventually gone fall out

You know,in Orthodox prophecies,dating from centuries ago to the modern times,it's Russia that will destroy Turkey. But then NATO will come too and there will be a big war in the area of Constantinople. Just mentioning this. I have most of the prophecies on my PC if anyone's interested. Anyway...

What are the neat air defense systems the Turks have? S-400 that they just got? Hisar which they just made? HAWK? Stinger? Come on.

 

[IblinI]

in finally little chink cong also jumped

20 million Russians died ... because of Wehrmacht

only ignorant keyboards like Iblini and Foanikas can dream to invade one of the biggest warrior nation without losing soldiers
keep dreaming dream is free

Turkish army = whole Turkish nation in a war ..from 12 years old to 80

Ok, nazi turkey the fourth reich.

Lool...you can called me a ching chong or whatever you like, it only shows how unsuccessful your parents are for not educating you.

 

[Battlion25]

You know,in Orthodox prophecies,dating from centuries ago to the modern times,it's Russia that will destroy Turkey. But then NATO will come too and there will be a big war in the area of Constantinople. Just mentioning this. I have most of the prophecies on my PC if anyone's interested. Anyway...

What are the neat air defense systems the Turks have? S-400 that they just got? Hisar which they just made? HAWK? Stinger? Come on.

Interesting.. Can you post that prophecy on another thread.. Can you create a thread for it..

They do have the capability to neutralize the airforce tho... But that is not an interesting part please do share these in another thread we can continue our discussion there

 

[Foinikas]

Interesting.. Can you post that prophecy on another thread.. Can you create a thread for it..

They do have the capability to neutralize Russian airforce...

I have a lot of them,they are from Orthodox Saints and elders (Russian,Greek,Serbian,others) from the Byzantine times to our times as well and some few from Catholics who talk about the same things,but I don't know if some will come and start mocking.

 

[Battlion25]

I have a lot of them,they are from Orthodox Saints and elders (Russian,Greek,Serbian,others) from the Byzantine times to our times as well and some few from Catholics who talk about the same things,but I don't know if some will come and start mocking.

We can do it in a random thread and I don't think anyone would but I will tag you in that thread.. Lets continue there

 

[MMM-E]

What are the neat air defense systems the Turks have? S-400 that they just got? Hisar which they just made? HAWK? Stinger? Come on.

4 years ago there was no any Turkish Air Defense System

but now 4 Turkish Air Defense Systems in mass production

KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG to intercept Cruise Missiles
SUNGUR MANPADS
HISAR-A Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles
HISAR-O Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles and Fighter Jets

in 2023 , 100 km range and 20 km altitude HISAR-U Air Defense System to intercept Fighter Jets

also 150 km SIPER Air Defense System is coming to turn enemy Fighter Jets into crap of metal

Turks have great defense industry to produce their own all Missiles


Stop dreaming
Russia can not fire even one bullet on NATO Member Turkey
the conflict will be in Syria

 

[Foinikas]

4 years ago there was no any Turkish Air Defense System

but now 4 Turkish Air Defense Systems in mass production

KORKUT 35 mm SPAGG to intercept Cruise Missiles
SUNGUR MANPADS
HISAR-A Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles
HISAR-O Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles and Fighter Jets

in 2023 , 100 km range and 20 km altitude HISAR-U Air Defense System to intercept Fighter Jets
also 150 km SIPER Air Defense System under development


Turks have great defense industry to produce their own all Missiles

So do Russians.

 

[That Guy]

There was no any Turkish drone in skies after Syrian army deployed air defence to Idlib and entered Seraqib second time.

Russia did not force Syrians to back off. Syrians took Seraqib and stayed where they were. Turkey failed to even stop Syrian offensive and capturing cities. What verge of wiping they were? LOL

did you not read a single thing I wrote? What Syrian air defences? They're all run by Russia and Iran. Syrian air defences are a joke.

Russia DID force Syria to back off. Why the **** was Assad so desperate to scream and shout that turkey was interfering and kill massacring Syrian forces?

Turkey was on the verge of wiping out Syrian forces, when Russia stepped in

If you were correct about Syria, Turkey wouldn't have a single presence in Syria.

Next time think before you speak, and stop spreading propaganda.

Turkey allows it?

Yes. Turkey can very easily contest Syrian air space, since Russia have a small air presence in the region, compared to Turkey.

Turkey has shown it is capable of shooting down Russian jets, and destroying advanced Russian air systems.

 

[That Guy]

Your analysis is base on a war between Turkey and Russia.

Yes, I agree Turkey has a military upper hand due to geography and logistics, while Russia relies heavily on Khmeimim Air Base and Tartus.

But Turkey will not challenge Russia directly, it's too risky. Turkey has NATO backing (on paper) for defensive actions not offensive one.

Yes, Turkey can bomb the Syria, but won't change the ground reality. It won't wipe out Syria ground force at all.

Turkey has played most of the cards on Syria issue since 2015, not very effective.

In case of an actual war, Turkey won't just use drone and air power, so your assessment is incorrect.