Walton fridge sales up by 30pc in Jan-July.

[itsanufy]

Walton makes (manufactures mostly from scratch) refrigerators (even smart IoT refrigerators), Aircons, LED-screen TVs (LCD-screen is older technology), LED Bulbs, Sealed Lead Acid (SLA) Batteries for inverter lamps and solar installations, Domestic Switchgear, Fans and assembles other small home electrics (kitchen and household blenders, friers, irons etc.) from local and Chinese components.

No company I know (even brand-name companies making OEM TVs for US market) manufactures SMD components used in TV Boards. Neither does Walton. But they do design and make their own boards and place SMDs using pick-and-place machines and wave-soldering machines.

I doubt they make their own LED screens AFAIK. LED screens need very sophisticated clean rooms and they haven't invested in it yet - most probably because buying overseas is probably cheaper for their current volume.

LCD stands for “liquid crystal display” and technically, both LED and LCD TVs are liquid crystal displays. The basic technology is the same in that both television types have two layers of polarized glass through which the liquid crystals both block and pass light. So really, LED TVs are a subset of LCD TVs.

LED, which stands for “light emitting diodes,” differs from general LCD TVs in that LCDs use fluorescent lights while LEDs use those light emitting diodes. Also, the placement of the lights on an LED TV can differ. The fluorescent lights in an LCD TV are always behind the screen. On an LED TV, the light emitting diodes can be placed either behind the screen or around its edges. The difference in lights and in lighting placement has generally meant that LED TVs can be thinner than LCDs, although this is starting to change. It has also meant that LED TVs run with greater energy efficiency and can provide a clearer, better picture than the general LCD TVs.

 

[damiendehorn]

So good that Bangadesh is growing .
It's good news for india too.

Prosperity of Bangladesh is intrinsically linked to india and Eastern india will gain a lot from it too.

Every Product made in Dhaka has best export potential is Kolkata or Panta , not in far away Chengdu in China.

Indian govt and companies should find work double hard to find export markets for indian products as well as invest in Bangladesh. All ingredients are ready and time to move fast.

Sub continent is above 1.6 Billion people , given the humongous size if they need not look any country outside for trade and commerce before cater to the people of the sub continent.

In electronics there is no realistic option but China as a partner (South Korea, Japan, Taiwan are options but not that competitive). india has no real sub-component supply chain to speak of and import most their parts like us from SEA suppliers.

Bangladesh is in the process of building 100 SEZs for moving from RMG to white goods, house hold electronics and light engineering. For that to happen the only potential partners are China, South Korea and Japan not india.

Right now we have a growing economy with 160m consumers that need to be taken care of first, so before we can think of exports we need to satisfy our own people.

 

[I S I]

Suppa Pawwa by 2022

 

[xyxmt]

How do you know? Is it your gutts feeling that BD follow India's footprint?

because to manufecture those item takes a lot of investments and company who sells only one million TV cannot afford to make it, neither a comoany that sells 700,000 regrigrators will ever make her own compressor...if they do than they are probably a drug dealer and doing this to white wash their money...or they are plain dumb and stupid. there is no pride in making a compressor since a western company will come and install the plant, same with every other component.

 

[TopCat]

because to manufecture those item takes a lot of investments and company who sells only one million TV cannot afford to make it, neither a comoany that sells 700,000 regrigrators will ever make her own compressor...if they do than they are probably a drug dealer and doing this to white wash their money...or they are plain dumb and stupid. there is no pride in making a compressor since a western company will come and install the plant, same with every other component.

Do you own Sony? YOu better stick to flip burgers.

 

[monitor]

Walton makes (manufactures mostly from scratch) refrigerators (even smart IoT refrigerators), Aircons, LED-screen TVs (LCD-screen is older technology), LED Bulbs, Sealed Lead Acid (SLA) Batteries for inverter lamps and solar installations, Domestic Switchgear, Fans and assembles other small home electrics (kitchen and household blenders, friers, irons etc.) from local and Chinese components.

No company I know (even brand-name companies making OEM TVs for US market) manufactures SMD components used in TV Boards. Neither does Walton. But they do design and make their own boards and place SMDs using pick-and-place machines and wave-soldering machines.

I doubt they make their own LED screens AFAIK. LED screens need very sophisticated clean rooms and they haven't invested in it yet - most probably because buying overseas is probably cheaper for their current volume.

They probably have led factory in gazipur if I remember correctly expending 25 billion taka

 

[xyxmt]

Do you own Sony? YOu better stick to flip burgers.

back restaurant jobs are for Bangladeshi people only

 

[Bilal9]

How do you know? Is it your gutts feeling that BD follow India's footprint?

It is so hard for some people to believe that anything other than assembly is done in Bangladesh. But then - who cares?

@xyxmt, If you are setting up a plant to make more than a few million TV's and refrigerators every year, it pays to invest in your root supply chain and do it yourself. Walton has a compressor plant already for its own refrigerators. It keeps price point way low. Can't import compressors and let someone jerk you around price-wise.

Indian govt and companies should find work double hard to find export markets for indian products as well as invest in Bangladesh. All ingredients are ready and time to move fast.

Noble thought - but what we have seen so far is that Indian manufacturers primarily try to fulfill demand in a protected Indian market (or even a Bangladeshi market, as seen recently with Hero motorcycles' plant near Dhaka). They are not trying to export out of India (or Bangladesh) to risky (and highly competitive) overseas markets unless the company is non-Indian or the product is a highly niche, specialized product.

Indian Govt. also has to take first step to not cosset local inefficient manufacturers using Tariff Barrier Regimes.

Suppa Pawwa by 2022

Please share news about factories for Pakistan-made refrigerators and TV. I am honestly interested.

They could import Bangladeshi compressors for the fridges made there unless compressors are already made locally.

Here is a video on Cargo lifts made by Walton. As seen - they are using latest CAD and CNC techniques for even sheet metal forming, punching and bending operations.

 

[damiendehorn]

It is so hard for some people to believe that anything other than assembly is done in Bangladesh. But then - who cares?

@xyxmt, If you are setting up a plant to make more than a few million TV's and refrigerators every year, it pays to invest in your root supply chain and do it yourself. Walton has a compressor plant already for its own refrigerators. It keeps price point way low. Can't import compressors and let someone jerk you around price-wise.

Noble thought - but what we have seen so far is that Indian manufacturers primarily try to fulfill demand in a protected Indian market (or even a Bangladeshi market, as seen recently with Hero motorcycles' plant near Dhaka). They are not trying to export out of India (or Bangladesh) to risky (and highly competitive) overseas markets unless the company is non-Indian or the product is a highly niche, specialized product.

Indian Govt. also has to take first step to not cosset local inefficient manufacturers using Tariff Barrier Regimes.



Please share news about factories for Pakistan-made refrigerators and TV. I am honestly interested.

They could import Bangladeshi compressors for the fridges made there unless compressors are already made locally.

Here is a video on Cargo lifts made by Walton. As seen - they are using latest CAD and CNC techniques for even sheet metal forming, punching and bending operations.

What did you expect? Our neighbors still can't except the changes in Bangladesh and our growth. RMG have been our core industry for the last 2 decades but now a lot of investment and thought have been placed to diversify.

 

[I S I]

Please share news about factories for Pakistan-made refrigerators and TV. I am honestly interested

https://www.ravimagazine.com/academ...rigeration-industries-dawlance-refrigerators/

One of the top local brands of Pakistan for Refrigerators "Dawlance" recently bought by a Turkey's top home appliances Company.

 

[UKBengali]

In electronics there is no realistic option but China as a partner (South Korea, Japan, Taiwan are options but not that competitive). india has no real sub-component supply chain to speak of and import most their parts like us from SEA suppliers.

Bangladesh is in the process of building 100 SEZs for moving from RMG to white goods, house hold electronics and light engineering. For that to happen the only potential partners are China, South Korea and Japan not india.

Right now we have a growing economy with 160m consumers that need to be taken care of first, so before we can think of exports we need to satisfy our own people.

The 160 million BD market is what will allow Walton to gain enough size that it can produce competitive products for the world market.

More Sales in Home Market = More Revenue = More Money in R&D = Better Products to become competitive abroad.

 

[Bilal9]

https://www.ravimagazine.com/academ...rigeration-industries-dawlance-refrigerators/

One of the top local brands of Pakistan for Refrigerators "Dawlance" recently bought by a Turkey's top home appliances Company.

Thanks for the link. I am aware that Dawlance is the oldest refrigerator brand in Pakistan (once owned by Dawood Family) - along with PEL (owned by Saigol Family), who have the majority share of refrigerator market in your country (Dawlance alone has 60%). It is only a question of time before the new Turkish owners Arcelik bring in plans to establish their own brands locally (Beko or Vestfrost).

I am still not aware how much of Dawlance' or PEL's product input is sourced locally. They do source compressors from overseas.

However Orient has a new and highly sophisticated refrigerator manufacturing plant using an almost unbelievable amount of robotics compared to the labor situation in your country. Some would say maybe almost too automated - but I will reserve my judgment. The investors must have thought their investment through.

Walton's success was quite sneaky, because LG and Samsung refrigerator brand managers sitting in India either had no idea about how large the local market was in Bangladesh or didn't care. In any case those foreign refrigerator brands (LG, Samsung, Whirlpool, Electrolux) will always have a tough uphill battle against Walton locally in similar product/price segments, and even in the luxury segment (500+ litres, dual doors, french doors) which is 3-5% of the market. If Bangladeshi refrigerator buyers find out that these luxury refrigerator brands were made in India, they won't buy them. Sorry but that is how it has always been.

As far as refrigerator export market for Pakistan or Bangladesh, exporting to only higher income Middle East countries or low/middle income countries with no local refrigerator manufacture is feasible. The latter means countries like in Africa or South America. Refrigerator exports to developed markets is only possible for smaller litre units (for student dorm rooms) or larger litre refrigerator units if you set up local manufacturing, which Samsung and LG set up in the US.

Exporting to countries which have local refrigerator manufacture (local refrigerator markets in Asia which are mostly more or less industrialized) is difficult because of entrenched local competition.

Also - food storage habits and food container sizes (such as shelves for soda-pop bottles) vary from country to country, which needs shelf customization as well as design localization as part of marketing research.

 

[I S I]

Thanks for the link. I am aware that Dawlance is the oldest refrigerator brand in Pakistan (once owned by Dawood Family) - along with PEL (owned by Saigol Family), who have the majority share of refrigerator market in your country (Dawlance alone has 60%). It is only a question of time before the new Turkish owners Arcelik bring in plans to establish their own brands locally (Beko or Vestfrost).

I am still not aware how much of Dawlance' or PEL's product input is sourced locally. They do source compressors from overseas.

However Orient has a new and highly sophisticated refrigerator manufacturing plant using an almost unbelievable amount of robotics compared to the labor situation in your country. Some would say maybe almost too automated - but I will reserve my judgment. The investors must have thought their investment through.

Walton's success was quite sneaky, because LG and Samsung refrigerator brand managers sitting in India either had no idea about how large the local market was in Bangladesh or didn't care. In any case those foreign refrigerator brands (LG, Samsung, Whirlpool, Electrolux) will always have a tough uphill battle against Walton locally in similar product/price segments, and even in the luxury segment (500+ litres, dual doors, french doors) which is 3-5% of the market. If Bangladeshi refrigerator buyers find out that these luxury refrigerator brands were made in India, they won't buy them. Sorry but that is how it has always been.

As far as refrigerator export market for Pakistan or Bangladesh, exporting to only higher income Middle East countries or low/middle income countries with no local refrigerator manufacture is feasible. The latter means countries like in Africa or South America. Refrigerator exports to developed markets is only possible for smaller litre units (for student dorm rooms) or larger litre refrigerator units if you set up local manufacturing, which Samsung and LG set up in the US.

Exporting to countries which have local refrigerator manufacture (local refrigerator markets in Asia which are mostly more or less industrialized) is difficult because of entrenched local competition.

Also - food storage habits and food container sizes (such as shelves for soda-pop bottles) vary from country to country, which needs shelf customization as well as design localization as part of marketing research.

Wow. Can't believe this manufacturing plant is in Pakistan.

Thanks for the share.

 

[gslv mk3]

or even a Bangladeshi market, as seen recently with Hero motorcycles' plant near Dhaka). They are not trying to export out of India (or Bangladesh) to risky (and highly competitive) overseas markets unless the company is non-Indian or the product is a highly niche, specialized product.

Or as seen in India's motorcycle exports, which apparently directly compete with Chinese manufacturers.