Walmart’s Supplier Says Chinese Factories in ‘Desperate’ State

[KAL-EL]

Okay, and CN has "super 1960s tech" that help CN sick pigs can fly like bird

Pls note that, CN still have no "tech", no vaccine to stop its swine fever yet

What is “super 1960s tech?” I’m sure they obviously have a check from beyond the 60s.

 

[Han Patriot]

IGBT or whatever related to HSR was invetened in 1960s, u cant deny it. Dude, we all know that HSR is useless system that make a country fall into big debt, thats why German, JP stop investing too much on it, and CN is not smart enough to realize it, so now CN HSR is in big debt.

Why Ger,JP focus on making better car instead of HSR now ?? Cos car help them make big money. HSR is just stupid/useless system that cant compete wt air line system, only CN still try to develope it now and can not get our of big debt.

If u keep boasting that CN have "super 1960s tech" then try to beat Ger,JP in making better car. Stop blaming that they make unfair treatment to CN car, CN car cant even sell in VN,too. Million Vnese can buy car wt price of $100,000 and they can buy Vinfast car,but never chose Cnese cars cos we all know Cnese car suck.

Proposes and creation are 2 diff things. It was not created until the late 80s and therefore Japanese couldn't have been using it in the 60s. IGBTs are very advanced power electronics and only a few country can manufacture it. Are you trying to tell me Vietnam cannot even make 1960s HSR? Lol

Regarding the cost and benefit analysis of HSR. It's not always the direct profits which determine the overall benefits brought to the economy. China cannot possibly depend on airlines alone to transport 1.4 bil ppl. You do know we are both the largest market for airlines and HSR right? If wrong to say the Japanese gave up on HSR, they just unveiled a faster train recently. Their population and market demand is only that big, so there is not much more new lines. For China, the network will take another 10 years to complete.

Millions can buy $100000 car and yet they sell their daughters to poor Chinese farmers. Lol.We are trying to beat the Japs and Germans, but however good we make our cars, they still have the advantage of brand recognition built through 100 years of heritage. That's the reason EVs will be our breakthrough moment.

You can say our cars suck, no issues man. But telling me a 2 year old vinfast with almost the whole supply chain controlled by foreigners is good ? That's bullshit. You don't even know how to test the cars, that's why you had to send it to Europe for testing. The future is autonomous AI and EVs. I hope you understand this!

 

[Viva_Viet]

Proposes and creation are 2 diff things. It was not created until the late 80s and therefore Japanese couldn't have been using it in the 60s. IGBTs are very advanced power electronics and only a few country can manufacture it. Are you trying to tell me Vietnam cannot even make 1960s HSR? Lol

Regarding the cost and benefit analysis of HSR. It's not always the direct profits which determine the overall benefits brought to the economy. China cannot possibly depend on airlines alone to transport 1.4 bil ppl. You do know we are both the largest market for airlines and HSR right? If wrong to say the Japanese gave up on HSR, they just unveiled a faster train recently. Their population and market demand is only that big, so there is not much more new lines. For China, the network will take another 10 years to complete.

Millions can buy $100000 car and yet they sell their daughters to poor Chinese farmers. Lol.We are trying to beat the Japs and Germans, but however good we make our cars, they still have the advantage of brand recognition built through 100 years of heritage. That's the reason EVs will be our breakthrough moment.

You can say our cars suck, no issues man. But telling me a 2 year old vinfast with almost the whole supply chain controlled by foreigners is good ? That's bullshit. You don't even know how to test the cars, that's why you had to send it to Europe for testing. The future is autonomous AI and EVs. I hope you understand this!

First, be careful, u r violating forum rule again.Stop talking abt human trafficking.

Second, ur car suck due to CN car tech suck. In VN, we buy more CN trucks than Ger,JP trucks, we dont care how good brand Ger,JP truck are cos actually dumb truck only need to be used in 3-5 years and CN truck having cheaper price fit wt it.

But we dont buy CN car cos it really suck, unsafe, poor quality,must stop using after 5years.

U may buy Volvo car, but as I know, Volvo still keep engine tech and dont share with CN yet.

Doesn't matter when those technology is invented, I know vn will never be able to do it:

The list goes on if I want. These are all beyond your dream. Too pathetic for you is you can't even make simpler stuff today, say, a 1950s tech mig21, a submarine, or what ever...
And don't tell me you don't want to do it, come on, everyone got dreams:

And your joke about HSR and cars are even more laughable...
Million vnese can buy car wt price of $100,000??? Sorry, bragging is the only thing left for vn trolls...
You sold ~5,000 luxury cars w/t a little bit more expensive price tag, less than what we did in a day...... Chinese car brands sold over 12 million passenger cars and exported over a million, vn is just tooo tiny even to take a notice... You think your population 99% of which never even ride a car before know cars better than people in those countries who buy our cars??? You are just a joke...
https://www.best-selling-cars.com/i...year-china-worldwide-german-luxury-car-sales/
http://autonews.gasgoo.com/china_news/70015635.html
https://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/b...willing-to-spend-big-money-on-super-cars.html

VN never can do those tech ?? Okay, but ppl will still not buy those Cnese products when tariff is 25 ++%

Thats why Chinese Factories in ‘Desperate’ State now.

 

[Dante80]

Chinese factories, meanwhile, are lowering asking prices in their desperation, creating an opportunity for European and Japanese consumer brands. Li & Fung is advising its non-U.S. clients to move in and take advantage of the mature supply chain and lower costs.

“It is a buying opportunity for European and non-U.S. retailers,” Fung said, “In China, there are a lot of factories with less and less orders. They’re offering actually pretty good prices to anybody.”

This is actually happening, and is also one of the indirect results of the current trade war between the US and China.

 

[Han Patriot]

First, be careful, u r violating forum rule again.Stop talking abt human trafficking.

Second, ur car suck due to CN car tech suck. In VN, we buy more CN trucks than Ger,JP trucks, we dont care how good brand Ger,JP truck are cos actually dumb truck only need to be used in 3-5 years and CN truck having cheaper price fit wt it.

But we dont buy CN car cos it really suck, unsafe, poor quality,must stop using after 5years.

U may buy Volvo car, but as I know, Volvo still keep engine tech and dont share with CN yet.


VN never can do those tech ?? Okay, but ppl will still not buy those Cnese products when tariff is 25 ++%

Thats why Chinese Factories in ‘Desperate’ State now.

First, be careful, u r violating forum rule again.Stop talking abt human trafficking.

Second, ur car suck due to CN car tech suck. In VN, we buy more CN trucks than Ger,JP trucks, we dont care how good brand Ger,JP truck are cos actually dumb truck only need to be used in 3-5 years and CN truck having cheaper price fit wt it.

But we dont buy CN car cos it really suck, unsafe, poor quality,must stop using after 5years.

U may buy Volvo car, but as I know, Volvo still keep engine tech and dont share with CN yet.


VN never can do those tech ?? Okay, but ppl will still not buy those Cnese products when tariff is 25 ++%

Thats why Chinese Factories in ‘Desperate’ State now.

Well if you only knew the reality of how severe poverty is in Vietnam and stop boasting, then I wouldn't have to remind you right? We sell cheap stuff to cheap ppl. If Viets can't afford medium or more expensive stuff, we will sell you cheap stuff. It's just plain economics. It doesn't mean our tech suck, car manufacturing is not exactly rocket science. It's more about brand recognition than technology.

Some of the highest rated cars are now Chinese, but you won't believe it because you don't know about it nor are u willing to pay for it. So the fastest way is to buy an established brand make it in China and export it. Volvo is wholly owned by us and the engines are made in China genius. Do you understand the word OWN. Lol

Firstly it's 25% tarriffs only for US exports and US exports is only 20-25% of our exports. And they still buy our products because they have no choice. Coupled with final assembly overseas, our goods are still sold to US as proven by recent trade statistics. It's just common sense.

Desperate? Not really. Affected? Yes of course. And yet it was trump bending over now after the Midwest ppl got pissed by our tarriffs on corn and soybeans.lol

 

[Viva_Viet]

Well if you only knew the reality of how severe poverty is in Vietnam and stop boasting, then I wouldn't have to remind you right? We sell cheap stuff to cheap ppl. If Viets can't afford medium or more expensive stuff, we will sell you cheap stuff. It's just plain economics. It doesn't mean our tech suck, car manufacturing is not exactly rocket science. It's more about brand recognition than technology.

Some of the highest rated cars are now Chinese, but you won't believe it because you don't know about it nor are u willing to pay for it. So the fastest way is to buy an established brand make it in China and export it. Volvo is wholly owned by us and the engines are made in China genius. Do you understand the word OWN. Lol

Firstly it's 25% tarriffs only for US exports and US exports is only 20-25% of our exports. And they still buy our products because they have no choice. Coupled with final assembly overseas, our goods are still sold to US as proven by recent trade statistics. It's just common sense.

Desperate? Not really. Affected? Yes of course. And yet it was trump bending over now after the Midwest ppl got pissed by our tarriffs on corn and soybeans.lol

Haha.why u boasting abt Cnese car here,Im sure that ur family using JP or German car ( if u have), and ur mom will give u a hard slap if jobless guy like u use her money and buy a Cnese car for her

Cheap talk

 

[Han Patriot]

Haha.why u boasting abt Cnese car here,Im sure that ur family using JP or German car ( if u have), and ur mom will give u a hard slap if jobless guy like u use her money and buy a Cnese car for her

Cheap talk

I actually don't own a car. Public transport in SG is very good and the taxes are too expensive to buy a car. I don't mind going for some of the newer Chinese cars, the quality is good and cheap. The one boasting and delusional is you.

Combustion car technology will be outdated in another 20 years and the technology is already reaching stagnation, there is nothing much to improve upon. Guess who makes BMW EV batteries? Lol. The core technology for EVs are the electric drives and batteries. And we are at the forefront for both.

 

[Viva_Viet]

I actually don't own a car. Public transport in SG is very good and the taxes are too expensive to buy a car. I don't mind going for some of the newer Chinese cars, the quality is good and cheap. The one boasting and delusional is you.

Combustion car technology will be outdated in another 20 years and the technology is already reaching stagnation, there is nothing much to improve upon. Guess who makes BMW EV batteries? Lol. The core technology for EVs are the electric drives and batteries. And we are at the forefront for both.

Many nations can make batteries for BMW, just like many nations can assemble Apple. Just bcs CN has big market, thats why BMW make batteries and Apple assemble Iphone in CN.

Samsung phone 'made in CN' is almost same like SS phone 'made in VN', not much different. But 25% tariff on made in CN phones will make 'made in VN phone' much cheaper.


Just like I said many many times, other countries buy Cnese raw material and products mainly for exporting to US. So even when CN export to US is just 25%, but when US forces other nations stop exporting their products that were smuggled from CN ( steel, clothes, shoes etc), then CN factories also lose the none US customers. Just like US slap 400% tarriff for VN steel that actually is CN steel, then CN factories lost those VN customers.

Thats why the article is correct when tairff is 25%,then:
Chinese Factories in ‘Desperate’ State

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

So even when CN export to US is just 25%

It was 19% by 2017, and now it should be even less.

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports-by-country

 

[Viva_Viet]

It was 19% by 2017, and now it should be even less.

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports-by-country

Okay, but many customers of Cnese factories buy the products ( steel,shoes etc)just for exporting to US.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Okay, but many customers of Cnese factories buy the products ( steel,shoes etc)just for exporting to US.

Just look at the retailer apocalypse in the US, see who has been hurting in the trade war.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/13/ret...e.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

 

[Viva_Viet]

Just look at the retailer apocalypse in the US, see who has been hurting in the trade war.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/13/ret...e.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

Thats good, both CN-US r killing each other and only one can survive.

Just like in 12th century,when Mongol defeated 3 times in VN, CN-Mongol had no choice but killing each other and Vnese can make huge money from betting who lose

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Thats good, both CN-US r killing each other and only one can survive.

Just like in 12th century,when Mongol defeated 3 times in VN, CN-Mongol had no choice but killing each other and Vnese can make huge money from betting who lose

The US manufacturing sector is also collapsing in a free fall mode, yet Trump is still pretending he is winning the trade war. This is the true Ah Q mentality.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-fall-for-second-straight-month-idUSKCN1TY1XS

 

[Viva_Viet]

The US manufacturing sector is also collapsing in a free fall mode, yet Trump is still pretending he is winning the trade war. This is the true Ah Q mentality.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-fall-for-second-straight-month-idUSKCN1TY1XS

Wow, u also know abt Ah Q now? Thats good, Ah Q story must also put into CN school book like in VN.

I also said many time that US capitalist system already webt bankrupted in 2008 crisis, Deusche bank just collapsed. Thats why if US can destroy and loot CN like during Qing times, then US will collapse first.

Thats why in US-CN conflict, only One will survive, no more win-win for CN-US.

 

[Han Patriot]

Many nations can make batteries for BMW, just like many nations can assemble Apple. Just bcs CN has big market, thats why BMW make batteries and Apple assemble Iphone in CN.

Samsung phone 'made in CN' is almost same like SS phone 'made in VN', not much different. But 25% tariff on made in CN phones will make 'made in VN phone' much cheaper.


Just like I said many many times, other countries buy Cnese raw material and products mainly for exporting to US. So even when CN export to US is just 25%, but when US forces other nations stop exporting their products that were smuggled from CN ( steel, clothes, shoes etc), then CN factories also lose the none US customers. Just like US slap 400% tarriff for VN steel that actually is CN steel, then CN factories lost those VN customers.

Thats why the article is correct when tairff is 25%,then:
Chinese Factories in ‘Desperate’ State

Many nations make car batteries? You must be dreaming. Can you make it? The core technology for an EV is those batteries, and it determines the mileage and out put power. Are you really that ignorant? I am wasting my time talking to you if you don't even understand basic technology. No wonder you guys were jumping like monkeys at car manufacturing.

Samsung phonies assembled in China and Vietnam, but they also buy parts and components from China. That's the reason why the supply chain is in China, don't you get it genius?

China is under sanctions not countries buying Chinese and assembling it for exports. Why do you think we are using Vietnam to bypass tariffs. WAKE UP!