Walmart’s Supplier Says Chinese Factories in ‘Desperate’ State

[Götterdämmerung]

Very odd that Viet guy would be constantly throwing false information on this forum. What's the reason for him to be jealous or harboring such hatred towards China? He was especially the one who claimed Huawei is finished many times when US started to ban US companies from exporting its products to Huawei. As it turns out Huawei CEO said the $30 billion loss in revenue is just peanuts which is the truth and Trump had no other choice but to lift the ban. Now he is belittling China's technological progress as some kind of backward country and lying about China having a trade deficit with Vietnam. Rather amusing to see him claiming Germany would help Vietnam fighting China while Chancellor Merkel just told Trump we aren't sending any troops to Syria. A Vietnamese guy speaking on behalf of Germany now?

Watch out! Soon, a Vietnamese will come and teach you German. It happened to me.

 

[aziqbal]

Chinese economy is moving from made in china to designed in china

growing middle class has brought in the service sector

and now china is leading in 5G, 3D printing, AI and machine learning and whole host of other technologies

low end manufacturing has been shifting for last few years to South East Asia

its good for everyone including ASEAN

 

[Han Patriot]

What “core” technology you invented?
your HSR comes from Siemens.
Cars from copying other foreign carmakers.
Huawei relies 90 percent on imports. You buy Russian aircraft. So the rest of your “cores.”

China has the benefits of no wars on domestic sole over 75 years, opening earlier to West, huge population, plus huge exile Chinese base, plus HK plus Singapore trading systems.

The fact people still associate with made-in-China as cheap says everything. You are too primitive.

It's not so much about invention, it's more about having the ability to produce it. Example, we can export HSR technology legally even when you claim we 'copy' their technology. You fail to see the years of research and development done to improve that technology. Huawei does not buy 90% of their components, and their technology does not just include cellphones. The future of 5G lies with Huawei, they didn't sell a single equipment to Verizon, but why do you think Verizon is getting sued for patent infringement? That's core technology. The ability to produce something even when the doors are closed. We have that technological independence. Copying absorbing and innovating upon that is our forte, it requires strategic planning, industrial base and skilled manpower. Vietnam does not possess all these criteria. I am actually evaluating your country neutrally.

Actually the China US trade war is a win win for both Vietnam AND China.

Vietnam makes money from US and imports even more from China. Win-win.

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Vietnam’s exports to the US resulted in a trade surplus of US$3.2 billion in April. However, the trade deficit with China widened to US$3.7 billion with China. It has climbed from US$1.5 billion in February to US$3.4 billion in March.

The industrial base is in China they are importing our components and reassembling it in Vietnam, that's why you can see the deficit. The amount of surplus Vs US correlates with the deficit with China.

 

[Viva_Viet]

It's not so much about invention, it's more about having the ability to produce it. Example, we can export HSR technology legally even when you claim we 'copy' their technology. You fail to see the years of research and development done to improve that technology. Huawei does not buy 90% of their components, and their technology does not just include cellphones. The future of 5G lies with Huawei, they didn't sell a single equipment to Verizon, but why do you think Verizon is getting sued for patent infringement? That's core technology. The ability to produce something even when the doors are closed. We have that technological independence. Copying absorbing and innovating upon that is our forte, it requires strategic planning, industrial base and skilled manpower. Vietnam does not possess all these criteria. I am actually evaluating your country neutrally.


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CN HSR is in big debt now, if someone use ur HSR, then they will be in big debt,too, not mentioning its just a poor copy from German HRS

And CN still cant even make a small thing like smart phone completely after 75year in peace. So, stop boasting until CN can sell phone to EU, US wt ur own Hong meng OS .

Don't forget Jack Ma was just a pig farmer!

Yeah haha ,thats true... And those Cnese here are boasting abt their " super high tech" smart phone that actually use US Android, US chips

 

[Han Patriot]

CN HSR is in big debt now, if someone use ur HSR, then they will be in big debt,too, not mentioning its just a poor copy from German HRS

And CN still cant even make a small thing like smart phone completely after 75year in peace. So, stop boasting until CN can sell phone to EU, US wt ur own Hong meng OS .


Yeah haha ,thats true... And those Cnese here are boasting abt their " super high tech" smart phone that actually use US Android, US chips

From the way you comprehend things, I guess you are really ignorant of the current technological level of China. We can produce the whole smartphone, whether some of the components are the best is another question altogether. A lot of the components used by Huawei can be sourced domestically, but whether the quality and capability might not be the best. What you don't understand is previously these companies were not nurtured by Huawei and the giants due to anti competitive behavior, only in strategic and military sectors adopted them due to security issues.

You are free to say German HSR is better, the question is not whether they are better, the question is whether we have the core technology. Vietnam does not own nor have an active capability to absorb and assimilate new technology. Even in the 60s we already have basic science and technology, might not be the best, but it was the basis where we develop our technology and manpower. YOU HAVE NONE!

 

[Arsalan]

@Viva_Viet quit trolling with the "CN is collapsing" when you have nothing to show for it. Your argument have been addressed at least 5 times in last three weeks alone, its time to bring something new.

As for what you were asking in the last post, about China to invent something that west have not done before, only a stupid will try to reinvent the wheel. Chinese economy and advancements in defense sector alone speak volume of the exceptional progress they have made. Counter that with some material not the childish "China is collapsing" argument over and over and over again.

 

[Viva_Viet]

@Viva_Viet quit trolling with the "CN is collapsing" when you have nothing to show for it. Your argument have been addressed at least 5 times in last three weeks alone, its time to bring something new.

As for what you were asking in the last post, about China to invent something that west have not done before, only a stupid will try to reinvent the wheel. Chinese economy and advancements in defense sector alone speak volume of the exceptional progress they have made. Counter that with some material not the childish "China is collapsing" argument over and over and over again.

Yes Mod, but Chinese also must stop saying VN has No tech when we can produce our own Vinfast car with BMW license. ( CN HSR also bought German tech and its in big debt now but Cnese still boasting as if its so special).

Its unfair when Chinese keep lying "VN has no tech" while actually we can make our own car thats far better than CN copied cars that can not sell in EU-US to due Intellectual property violation.

 

[Arsalan]

Yes Mod, but Chinese also must stop saying VN has No tech when we can produce our own Vinfast car with BMW license. ( CN HSR also bought German tech).

Its unfair when Chinese keep lying "VN has no tech" while actually we can make our own car.

Report such posts. If they are saying it repeatedly without presenting any argument to support this it surely is a troll and will be dealt with accordingly.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Report such posts. If they are saying it repeatedly without presenting any argument to support this it surely is a troll and will be dealt with accordingly.

Yes, thanks Mod

Post #35 @Han Patriot

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You are free to say German HSR is better, the question is not whether they are better, the question is whether we have the core technology. Vietnam does not own nor have an active capability to absorb and assimilate new technology. Even in the 60s we already have basic science and technology, might not be the best, but it was the basis where we develop our technology and manpower.YOU HAVE NONE

 

[Han Patriot]

Yes, thanks Mod

Post #35 @Han Patriot

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You are free to say German HSR is better, the question is not whether they are better, the question is whether we have the core technology. Vietnam does not own nor have an active capability to absorb and assimilate new technology. Even in the 60s we already have basic science and technology, might not be the best, but it was the basis where we develop our technology and manpower.YOU HAVE NONE

So prove me wrong. Where are the engines made in? Who designed the car? The sensors? The ECU. I can't prove nothing when there is nothing. You should prove something when you claim something?

How many national labs do you have? How many research paper? What national technology programs are running? Who are your world class scientists? How many fabs do you have? How many indigenous components maker? The steel for the car, where does it come from? The tyres?

 

[Viva_Viet]

So prove me wrong. Where are the engines made in? Who designed the car? The sensors? The ECU. I can't prove nothing when there is nothing. You should prove something when you claim something?

How many national labs do you have? How many research paper? What national technology programs are running? Who are your world class scientists? How many fabs do you have? How many indigenous components maker? The steel for the car, where does it come from? The tyres?

Dude, do u understand that BMW sell VN the engine blue print and they send German expert to help VN make car ??.

Come to Vinfast factories, u will see big labs there wt hundred German experts working wt Vnese, helping Vnese get BMW tech.

How was the first start of CN HRS ?? CN didnt need any German guys help u absorb HRS tech, CN just simply bough the license and make everything by Cnese ??

Stop lying when u never come to Vinfast and see what we have there.

 

[Han Patriot]

Dude, do u understand that BMW sell VN the engine blue print and they send German expert to help VN make car ??.

Come to Vinfast factories, u will see big labs there wt hundred German experts working wt Vnese, helping Vnese get BMW tech.

How was the first start of CN HRS ?? CN didnt need any German guys help u absorb HRS tech, CN just simply bough the license and make everything by Cnese ??

Stop lying when u never come to Vinfast and see what we have there.

I don't care who helps you. We have a dozen of these JVs all around China from Mitsubishi to Toyotas. My question is whether you can

1) develop the materials
2) design the engine
3) fabricate the engine

And what cars are they making? Outdated models or latest ones? CBU or CKD?

I am not even going into suspension systems and electronics yet.

 

[Viet]

It's not so much about invention, it's more about having the ability to produce it. Example, we can export HSR technology legally even when you claim we 'copy' their technology. You fail to see the years of research and development done to improve that technology. Huawei does not buy 90% of their components, and their technology does not just include cellphones. The future of 5G lies with Huawei, they didn't sell a single equipment to Verizon, but why do you think Verizon is getting sued for patent infringement? That's core technology. The ability to produce something even when the doors are closed. We have that technological independence. Copying absorbing and innovating upon that is our forte, it requires strategic planning, industrial base and skilled manpower. Vietnam does not possess all these criteria. I am actually evaluating your country neutrally.


The industrial base is in China they are importing our components and reassembling it in Vietnam, that's why you can see the deficit. The amount of surplus Vs US correlates with the deficit with China.

Nonsense! Vietnam mostly imports raw materials from China and makes them to finished products. We no longer just assemble stuffs.

Here inside Vinfast car factory
An assembly line with capacity of making 250,000 automobile motors a year

 

[Viva_Viet]

I don't care who helps you. We have a dozen of these JVs all around China from Mitsubishi to Toyotas. My question is whether you can

1) develop the materials
2) design the engine
3) fabricate the engine

And what cars are they making? Outdated models or latest ones? CBU or CKD?

I am not even going into suspension systems and electronics yet.

U should care, cos Mod will give u a warning when u fail to prove that " VN has No tech" . We can make our own car engine wt license from BMW, we have big labs in Vinfast factories ( check video clip from @Viet ).

So, stop lying "VN has no tech". Our Vinfast car r selling well to VN customers while CN HSR - a cheap copied from German HSR is in big debt now. CN factories r in "desperate" state cos most of them are in big debt like ur useless HRS.

 

[k s ahmed]

loooolll vietnam is being backed by usa now ? and ghost writers are doing their job ha!
we will see when vitn will beat CN soon ha! too funny all this.. i have been constantly how USA has hit china but really, usa and google are the ones who are licking CN feet already.. dont know why