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Viktor Frankl was a famous psychologist. He provided the psychology field with a new powerful paradigm of studying human behavior. His paradigm is “Will to Meaning”. In his famous book “Man in search of meaning”, he argued that, no matter how meaningless a situation appears, there is always a meaning in it for human beings. Man is powerful enough to create or find meaning in any absurd situation. This meaningfulness gives a unique courage to face cruelties of life. How Viktor arrived at this conclusion is an interesting story. He belonged to a Jewish family and had studied to be a doctor. His family was settled in Germany, when Second World War broke out, he along with his entire family was imprisoned in concentrated camps. Where he suffered immense torture and observe inhuman conditions. His entire family including his wife and children were burned to ashes in gas chambers in front of his eyes.

He spent countless nights waiting for his turn to be taken to God forsaken gas chambers. But his turn never came. One night at the height of his fear a simple little idea relived him of all fears. The simple little idea took hold of his mind and he was a fearless born again man the next day. The simple idea was “My fear would not postpone my death”. Afterward he observed that some people walk into the death chamber with confidence and fearlessness, while most people beg to be spared and ultimately forced to accept death. Fear or no fear consequences were same. So why bother fear before the ultimate. We should create a meaning in brief span of life we have got.

Although this message is very strong and worth following, but there are some people known as Absurdist philosophers (Sartre, Camus, and Becket) who disagree and proposed that “his conclusion can only be applicable to the extreme survival situations”. While in our daily routine life we feel a lot of boredom and meaninglessness. We try to overcome this boredom by indulging in many meaningless activities (like watching TV, using social media, taking selfies, and endless talking with friends etc). In his famous drama “Waiting for Godot” Samuel Becket tells the story of two men endlessly waiting for a person called Godoton a deserted highway near the fig tree. Both characters don’t know who Godotis, why they are waiting for Godot, When Godotwould come, what would Godotdo, what difference does it make whether Godotcomes or not. Till end mystery wasn’t solved. Critics differ on what Godotrepresents.

But for we Pakistani Girls Godotrepresent “An upright man”. We girls are waiting endlessly for his arrival. And if you allow me to say it poetically or romantically, we girls are waiting for a prince charming on a horseback. (Oh that’s just a fantasy). But fantasy apart a simple upright/ honest guy who is faithful is what we need. We don’t need Salman khan or Bradpitt (Although I love their movies). I regret to say that for most girls their Godotnever comes and they have to settle for some fat, bald, coarse, unromantic, quarrelsome, dictating, male chauvinist, misogynist, overage, mom’s boy, and poor man.

Mostly i have observed that when it comes to girls, men are just like hungry dogs. They treat girls like a piece of meat. When I saw this attitude I say in my heart, come on guys show some dignity and respect not only to girls but to your selves. There is no exception of age and background. Ogling, staring, verbal and physical harassment are second nature of Pakistani men. You can say its national pastime hobby or game. Don’t think that marriage would reduce their lust. They usually become more shameless and frequent in their pursuits.

Similar behavior is observed at work place I don’t know why everyone wanted to be jolly and friendly with girls (Women sound aged). Why can’t men and women behave in a professional way? It’s a common misperception that we girls are in search of a groom everywhere. No our professional lives are separate from our personal life. We need equality and professionalism at work place. We don’t want beti, baji, behan, bhabi,khala or any other relationship ( We know how much respect men give to their family women). By doing this they snatch equality status from us and show natural superiority. And as a staunch feminist I don’t want any glass sealing at work place.

People! Now consider this entire situation and tell me is it possible to find an upright man. If yes then how much longer we should wait for our Godot (Read Upright man).


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We girls are waiting endlessly for his arrival. And if you allow me to say it poetically or romantically, we girls are waiting for a prince charming on a horseback.

:D soon we'll run out of horses :D

Mostly i have observed that when it comes to girls, men are just like hungry dogs. They treat girls like a piece of meat. When I saw this attitude I say in my heart, come on guys show some dignity and respect not only to girls but to your selves.

Wth eni bisti :mad: @Hell hound @Maxpane @The Sandman @B+ Dracula comrades! Prepare your battle formations , nowwwwww! .

Never in my life , (don't know about yours, but me giving you benefit of doubt :p: ) saw a girl with a butcher's eye. Samjhti kea hain yeh apnay ap ko :mad:

Don’t think that marriage would reduce their lust. They usually become more shameless and frequent in their pursuits.
In no way iam endorsing these perverts , but, girls ain't all mankind's angel. (some are :-) )

One need to observe them when they are sitting around a corner in the class or in an office and suddenly a boy walk past them :fie: Man, they gonna discuss him from head to toe . Jeans kis color k pehni hoi hain :D

So which ever of these two sides have numbers to gang up , shall overwhelm .


Chavalin apart ! The urge for an upright groom is deeply embedded in the subconscious of womenkind!

Reasons behind this could be traced back to the "good old days" which are still very much prevalent . coz, with husband a women gets socio-economic comforts , some sort of guarantee for the survival of her off springs
( thats the point where a phrase starts echoing in my mind, Mother is Supreme :police: )

Coming back to the point so, even if she had to share a husband with another of her kind , she used to!

As for the o.p, her negation of this phenomenon is only due to her self coined extreme inferiority complex and to prove her feministic assertions.

While the men and women are all equal in their respective domains.So, This equality thing doesn't necessarily be taken into a proportionate way.

@Well.wisher @Morse_Code @Levina @Phoenix
 
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in one sentce the defination of upright man is
But fantasy apart a simple upright/ honest guy who is faithful is what we need
and in the same paragraph the fat,poor or bald guy is not upright.
I regret to say that for most girls their Godotnever comes and they have to settle for some fat, bald, coarse, unromantic, quarrelsome, dictating, male chauvinist, misogynist, overage, mom’s boy, and poor man.
makeup your mind woman.and you think only men are superficial.:lol:

People! Now consider this entire situation and tell me is it possible to find an upright man. If yes then how much longer we should wait for our Godot (Read Upright man).
stop waiting for him he is never coming at least not for women with attitude like yours.
There is no exception of age and background. Ogling, staring, verbal and physical harassment are second nature of Pakistani men.
seriously woman.for the sake of the guys sanity i hope he never finds you.
let the ogling or staring alone i never in my whole life could hold eye contact with a woman (to whom i am talking to) for more then .5 sec

Wth eni bisti :mad: @Hell hound @Maxpane @The Sandman @B+ Dracula comrades! Prepare your battle formations , nowwwwww! .

Never in my life , (don't know about yours, but me giving you benefit of doubt :p: ) saw a girl with a butcher's eye. Samjhti kea hain yeh apnay ap ko :mad:
feminazi hay dafa kar yar khud hi akali mar jaye gi:hang2:

thread for you brother @abdulbarijan
 
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@Mentee @Hell hound :enjoy: Well i see women's are being treated harshly and same time they treat men harshly but men has no sympathy and no backing from media and women well for them even satan also cries :devil: that said ladies please don't attack me coz I say the truth from first hand experience especially living in a multi-national city:D
 
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But for we Pakistani Girls Godotrepresent “An upright man”. We girls are waiting endlessly for his arrival. And if you allow me to say it poetically or romantically, we girls are waiting for a prince charming on a horseback. (Oh that’s just a fantasy). But fantasy apart a simple upright/ honest guy who is faithful is what we need. We don’t need Salman khan or Bradpitt (Although I love their movies). I regret to say that for most girls their Godotnever comes and they have to settle for some fat, bald, coarse, unromantic, quarrelsome, dictating, male chauvinist, misogynist, overage, mom’s boy, and poor man.

Hypocrisy101
-What we want = "Upright man"
-We don't care about looks = "We don't want no Brad pitt or Salman Khan"

Yet he better not be a " fat,bald, overage, mom's boy & poor" cuz after all we want is an "upright man"
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Mostly i have observed that when it comes to girls, men are just like hungry dogs. They treat girls like a piece of meat. When I saw this attitude I say in my heart, come on guys show some dignity and respect not only to girls but to your selves. There is no exception of age and background. Ogling, staring, verbal and physical harassment are second nature of Pakistani men. You can say its national pastime hobby or game. Don’t think that marriage would reduce their lust. They usually become more shameless and frequent in their pursuits.
Coming from the very author whose definition of an upright man includes that " He better not be a poor man" ... What does that make women ? Gold digging b*tches? and instances of such gold digging behavior can also be observed ... So yes "ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT" ... after all that is the assumption in men's case ... that we all are "hungry dogs"

and we men .....We don't want no Emma stone or Angelina Jolie ... All we want is just a "straight up woman with good morals" ... based on the definition of an "upright man" here is the definition of a "straight up woman with good morals"-- she must not be dark skinned, should be above 5'8", should not weigh above 62 kilos, should have a body like an hour glass, should be in her early 20's etc etc. .. :D

Similar behavior is observed at work place I don’t know why everyone wanted to be jolly and friendly with girls (Women sound aged). Why can’t men and women behave in a professional way? It’s a common misperception that we girls are in search of a groom everywhere. No our professional lives are separate from our personal life. We need equality and professionalism at work place. We don’t want beti, baji, behan, bhabi,khala or any other relationship ( We know how much respect men give to their family women). By doing this they snatch equality status from us and show natural superiority. And as a staunch feminist I don’t want any glass sealing at work place.

Yet the minute a male supervisor treats a female employee the same with the same pressure/anger etc. the counter sentence is " Apko larkion se baat karnai ki tamiz nahi" ?
People! Now consider this entire situation and tell me is it possible to find an upright man. If yes then how much longer we should wait for our Godot (Read Upright man).
Hold yourself to the same standards as the "upright man" since after all your own argument is that your equal :P
 
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:D soon we'll run out of horses :D



Wth eni bisti :mad: @Hell hound @Maxpane @The Sandman @B+ Dracula comrades! Prepare your battle formations , nowwwwww! .

Never in my life , (don't know about yours, but me giving you benefit of doubt :p: ) saw a girl with a butcher's eye. Samjhti kea hain yeh apnay ap ko :mad:


In no way iam endorsing these perverts , but, girls ain't all mankind's angel. (some are :-) )

One need to observe them when they are sitting around a corner in the class or in an office and suddenly a boy walk past them :fie: Man, they gonna discuss him from head to toe . Jeans kis color k pehni hoi hain :D

So which ever of these two sides have numbers to gang up , shall overwhelm .


Chavalin apart ! The urge for an upright groom is deeply embedded in the subconscious of womenkind!

Reasons behind this could be traced back to the "good old days" which are still very much prevalent . coz, with husband a women gets socio-economic comforts , some sort of guarantee for the survival of her off springs
( thats the point where a phrase starts echoing in my mind, Mother is Supreme :police: )

Coming back to the point so, even if she had to share a husband with another of her kind , she used to!

As for the o.p, her negation of this phenomenon is only due to her self coined extreme inferiority complex and to prove her feministic assertions.

While the men and women are all equal in their respective domains.So, This equality thing doesn't necessarily be taken into a proportionate way.

@Well.wisher @Morse_Code @Levina @Phoenix
Well, not at all everyone is alike if there are pious and upright men out there then so are the women...
and me certainly not being a staunch feminist, I believe that no prince charming or princess exists out there, the need is to find good in every person. Equality should be there when it's a necessity.
And for you brother ... there are butcher eyes men too it's character of a person not the gender so all such men and women with hungry eyes should be dealt alike... let equality prevail here too! :)

@Mentee @Hell hound :enjoy: Well i see women's are being treated harshly and same time they treat men harshly but men has no sympathy and no backing from media and women well for them even satan also cries :devil: that said ladies please don't attack me coz I say the truth from first hand experience especially living in a multi-national city:D
:D If em right then you're being treated as if you are a girl :D

makeup your mind woman.and you think only men are superficial.:lol:



seriously woman.for the sake of the guys sanity i hope he never finds you.
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@Doordie seriously?? :D :D :D
 
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Well, not at all everyone is alike if there are pious and upright men out there then so are the women...
and me certainly not being a staunch feminist, I believe that no prince charming or princess exists out there, the need is to find good in every person. Equality should be there when it's a necessity.
And for you brother ... there are butcher eyes men too it's character of a person not the gender so all such men and women with hungry eyes should be dealt alike... let equality prevail here too! :)


:D If em right then you're being treated as if you are a girl :D


@Doordie seriously?? :D :D :D









Lolz not at all Alhumdulillah :-)
 
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feminazi hay dafa kar yar khud hi akali mar jaye gi:hang2:

thread for you brother @abdulbarijan

Yet the minute a male supervisor treats a female employee the same with the same pressure/anger etc. the counter sentence is " Apko larkion se baat karnai ki tamiz nahi" ?


Yeah I mean seriously most of the girls have this habit of standing on the high moral ground of K.2 and spitting at the face of boys :mad:

Well, not at all everyone is alike if there are pious and upright men out there then so are the women...
and me certainly not being a staunch feminist, I believe that no prince charming or princess exists out there, the need is to find good in every person. Equality should be there when it's a necessity.
And for you brother ... there are butcher eyes men too it's character of a person not the gender so all such men and women with hungry eyes should be dealt alike... let equality prevail here too! :)


:D If em right then you're being treated as if you are a girl :D


@Doordie seriously?? :D :D :D

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@Mentee @Hell hound :enjoy: Well i see women's are being treated harshly and same time they treat men harshly but men has no sympathy and no backing from media and women well for them even satan also cries :devil: that said ladies please don't attack me coz I say the truth from first hand experience especially living in a multi-national city:D
Awwwww mela mazloom bhai , don't worry bro I'll make a trust for lachaar marddd hazrat :cray:

As well kya matlab app bhi :D
Bhai meri to daarhi moonch b maukamil nahe hain shaadi Ko to bhool jao 2 3 Sal :D
 
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