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Vote on Kashmir: It’s time for an all-India referendum on a deeply troubled state

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Perhaps it’s high time that we held a referendum on Kashmir. The proposal of holding a referendum within Kashmir has been there since the state’s inception, and has been shelved for one reason or other.

However, the referendum we should now have shouldn’t be restricted to the state but should include all of India.

Today, Kashmir is a deeply troubled, as well as a deeply troubling, state: The recent spate of violent unrest, which has already claimed more than 40 lives, has caused a lot of soul-searching not just in political circles but also among the so-called common people, the aam admi.

Kashmir’s problems may well be instigated by Islamabad, as New Delhi keeps repeating. But the more armed force that is used to keep Kashmir within the Indian republic, the more we play into the hands of the separatists, who hail every street protestor who is shot as a martyr to the cause of Kashmir.

Former home minister P Chidambaram has said that it is time that New Delhi review its Kashmir policy and not only grant greater autonomy to the state but also redeploy the army to the border with Pakistan so as to avoid confrontation with the civilian population within the state.

This raises a larger question which goes beyond Kashmir: Can a democracy use armed might to retain any part of itself without compromising its own democratic principles?

A lot of people in India see the Kashmir problem as a largely New Delhi preoccupation which is proving a drain on our national resources, in terms of money spent and security personnel deployed, at the expense of other parts of the country.

Perhaps it’s time to ask the Indian people – not just Kashmiris, and not just the political class – as to what they feel about retaining Kashmir, at any cost.

The UK has had its Brexit referendum, ill-advised though many fear it will prove to be. An all-India referendum on Kashmir might yield a similarly unpalatable result. But over the years, the ‘Kashmir problem’ has assumed the dimension of a national neurosis which needs to be exorcised, even if it means adopting out-of-the-box methods.

If a Kashmir referendum were to be held i know how i’d vote. Do you?

@Joe Shearer @ranjeet @jbgt90 @Levina @Parul @anant_s @Skull and Bones @SpArK @MilSpec @Abingdonboy @PARIKRAMA @AUSTERLITZ @ito @Stephen Cohen @SarthakGanguly @he-man and I will tag when I remember.

BTW I was thinking of the same thing since this morning and when I googled it I found a blog in TOI. I would like to also add. The referendum should also have an open vote as to we will be know who has voted and for who.....I mean yes or no. What's your take?

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatime...-india-referendum-on-a-deeply-troubled-state/
 
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And though it is a Pakistan forum, Indian members are requested not to reply to Pakistan members post.......not until 10 pages. Just discuss among ourselves and yes I think vote will be in favour of Kashmir remaining within India.

And BTW do not get angry with me!!:)
 
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Perhaps it’s high time that we held a referendum on Kashmir. The proposal of holding a referendum within Kashmir has been there since the state’s inception, and has been shelved for one reason or other.

However, the referendum we should now have shouldn’t be restricted to the state but should include all of India.

Today, Kashmir is a deeply troubled, as well as a deeply troubling, state: The recent spate of violent unrest, which has already claimed more than 40 lives, has caused a lot of soul-searching not just in political circles but also among the so-called common people, the aam admi.

Kashmir’s problems may well be instigated by Islamabad, as New Delhi keeps repeating. But the more armed force that is used to keep Kashmir within the Indian republic, the more we play into the hands of the separatists, who hail every street protestor who is shot as a martyr to the cause of Kashmir.

Former home minister P Chidambaram has said that it is time that New Delhi review its Kashmir policy and not only grant greater autonomy to the state but also redeploy the army to the border with Pakistan so as to avoid confrontation with the civilian population within the state.

This raises a larger question which goes beyond Kashmir: Can a democracy use armed might to retain any part of itself without compromising its own democratic principles?

A lot of people in India see the Kashmir problem as a largely New Delhi preoccupation which is proving a drain on our national resources, in terms of money spent and security personnel deployed, at the expense of other parts of the country.

Perhaps it’s time to ask the Indian people – not just Kashmiris, and not just the political class – as to what they feel about retaining Kashmir, at any cost.

The UK has had its Brexit referendum, ill-advised though many fear it will prove to be. An all-India referendum on Kashmir might yield a similarly unpalatable result. But over the years, the ‘Kashmir problem’ has assumed the dimension of a national neurosis which needs to be exorcised, even if it means adopting out-of-the-box methods.

If a Kashmir referendum were to be held i know how i’d vote. Do you?

@Joe Shearer @ranjeet @jbgt90 @Levina @Parul @anant_s @Skull and Bones @SpArK @MilSpec @Abingdonboy @PARIKRAMA @AUSTERLITZ @ito @Stephen Cohen @SarthakGanguly @he-man and I will tag when I remember.

BTW I was thinking of the same thing since this morning and when I googled it I found a blog in TOI. I would like to also add. The referendum should also have an open vote as to we will be know who has voted and for who.....I mean yes or no. What's your take?

Any referendum anywhere will just lead to balkanization of India...guaranteed.
 
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I meant whole of India vote to decide if they think Kashmir should be a part of India or not!!
why?? what purpose will it have? list the gains here...then you will see it is going to be a humongous exercise that will serve hardly anything...and open a Pandora box...next call will be for Khalistan...next for all the north eastern states and what not...
 
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Perhaps it’s high time that we held a referendum on Kashmir. The proposal of holding a referendum within Kashmir has been there since the state’s inception, and has been shelved for one reason or other.

What referendum & why ? The referendum was supposed to be held in the erstwhile state of Kashmir which comprised of Laddakh, Jammu, Kashmir , Gilgit & other parts under Pak control & NOT the region of Kashmir alone.

But the more armed force that is used to keep Kashmir within the Indian republic, the more we play into the hands of the separatists, who hail every street protestor who is shot as a martyr to the cause of Kashmir.

Your suggestion seems more like playing into hands of separatists and Pakistan. In fact supporting them.

Where is the room for discussion on retaining a part of your own land ?

This raises a larger question which goes beyond Kashmir: Can a democracy use armed might to retain any part of itself without compromising its own democratic principles?

Every 5 years we elect our reps to the Parliament & in states. This is much more than what happens anywhere in S Asia.

It is these democratic values that all those who live in our nation have to follow. Change must & can only happen via the ballot. Those who seek change must go to the electorate & seek a majority . On obtaining one they are welcome to make changes. If they chose to seek a path of change by force, they will be met with force.

People have to be spoken with in a language they understand.
 
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@Star Wars 41599]@gslv mk3[/USER] @gslv @Dash @Ryuzaki @litefire @Tamilnadu



I meant whole of India vote to decide if they think Kashmir should be a part of India or not!!



The outcome is known ... as well UN made 3 points clear decades ago...
1. Pakistan troops withdrawal from all over kashmir.

2. Then India should withdraw but can have sizeable troops for resistance incase of Aggression and peace keeping...


but you know what happened... we all aware about 2010 resolution big set back to pak... they are trying hard again...
 
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All India referendum?

Why do you think all of Indians or a majority of Indians will vote against Kashmir being part of India?

There is no point of holding this referendum otherwise.
 
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It could happen and the thought is indeed entertaining. But it will be a political suicide.

So either the Kashmir problem will be solved with time or we will have to wait for 2090-2100 when the people of India and Pakistan realises that a peace of land is not worth fighting for.
 
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