Vietnam’s top carriers avoid Huawei 5G gear, citing security concerns

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• On September 4, 1958, the government of the PRC proclaimed the breadth of its territorial sea to be twelve nautical miles (22 km) which applied to all its territory, including the Paracel and Spratly Islands. Ten days later, the prime minister of North Vietnam, Phạm Văn Đồng, in his letter to Zhou Enlai stated that his government had recognized the declaration of the PRC government.[64][73][90][91]
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracel_Islands

Every one knows Trump and co love to make up claims without any evidence.

Not understand is also proved dangerous, the wiki source is not authentic, you can adjust the information at any time, I need to send a note to see.

Read the reference, you can translate or Vietnamese people can talk with you
Where Paracel (Hoang Sa), Spralty (Truong Sa) were in this....At this time Chine have only one Hainan, not Taiwan island, and nothing. You didn'd have anything, you should be nothing.

https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/politics/20140524/vietnam-clarifies-late-pm’s-official-letter-wrongfully-cited-by-china/9697.html

Late PM’s letter does not mention sovereignty

A correspondent from VietNamNet asked Hai about the fact that China says that in 1958 the then Vietnamese Prime Minister Pham Van Dong sent to his then Chinese counterpart Zhou Enlai a diplomatic letter in which Vietnam recognized China’s sovereignty over Hoang Sa and Truong Sa.

“Is this true and does such an official letter have a legal validity?” the reporter asked. In reply, Hai said, “The late PM Dong’s official letter is a diplomatic document, the content of which has validity. "

"The letter says that Vietnam respects China’s territorial waters of 12 nautical miles, and does not mention territorial sovereignty as well as the Truong Sa and Hoang Sa issue.”

Therefore, this letter is not valid in the issue of sovereignty over the two archipelagoes, Hai insisted.

“In addition, the letter was issued to China in the time where Hoang Sa was under the management of the Republic of Vietnam [the administration of South Vietnam before 1975] according to the 1954 Geneva treaty to which China was a party.

“So how could the Democratic Republic of Vietnam offer what it did not own [Hoang Sa] to China at that time [1958]?” Hai said, adding that the China has wrongfully cited the letter.

In 1974, China used forces to occupy Vietnam’s Hoang Sa. At that time, both the Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government of the Republic of South Vietnam protested the move, Hai stated, noting that the United Nations Charter and international law prohibit the use of force to violate the territory of other countries.

China has for a long time released such misleading information related to Vietnam’s sovereignty over Hoang Sa, and repeated it recently whenever Vietnam requested the country to remove its rig from the Vietnamese waters, Hai said.

The rig is located at 15°29’58’’ North latitude and 111°12’06’’ East longitude in the East Vietnam Sea, which lies well within Vietnam’s exclusive economic zone and continental shelf, the Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs insisted.

Năm 1949, Tổ chức khí tượng thế giới (OMM: OrganisationMondiale de Meteorologie) đã chấp nhận đơn xin đăng ký danh sách các trạm khí tượng do Pháp xây dựng tại quần đảo Hoàng Sa và quần đảo Trường Sa vào danh sách các trạm khí tượng thế giới: Trạm Phú Lâm, số hiệu 48859, Trạm Hoàng Sa số hiệu 48860, Trạm Ba Bình số hiệu 48419.

Ngày 8 tháng 3 năm 1949, Pháp ký với Bảo Đại Hiệp định Hạ Long trao trả độc lập cho chính phủ Bảo Đại, tháng 4, Hoàng thân Bửu Lộc, tuyên bố khẳng định lại chủ quyền của Việt Nam đối với Hoàng Sa.

Ngày 14 tháng 10 năm 1950, Tổng trấn Trung phần Phan Văn Giáo đã chủ trì việc bàn giao quản lý quần đảo Hoàng Sa giữa Chính phủ Pháp và Chính phủ Bảo Đại.

Từ ngày 5 tháng 9 đến ngày 8 tháng 9 năm 1951, Hội nghị San Francisco có đại diện của 51 nước tham dự để ký kết Hòa ước với Nhật. Tại phiên họp toàn thể mở rộng, ngày 5 tháng 9, với 48 phiếu chống, 3 phiếu thuận, đã bác bỏ đề nghị của ngoại trưởng Gromưco (Liên Xô cũ) về việc tu chỉnh khoản 13 của Dự thảo Hòa ước, trong đó có nội dung: Nhật thừa nhận chủ quyền của CHND Trung Hoa đối với quần đảo Hoàng Sa và những đảo xa hơn nữa về phía Nam.

Ngày 7 tháng 9 năm 1951, Thủ tướng kiêm Ngoại trưởng của Chính phủ Quốc gia Việt Nam Trần Văn Hữu đã long trọng tuyên bố hai quần đảo Hoàng Sa và Trường Sa là lãnh thổ của Việt Nam. Không một đại biểu nào trong Hội nghị có bình luận gì về tuyên bố này. Ngày 8 tháng 9 năm 1951, Hòa ước với Nhật được ký kết. Điều 2, Đoạn 7 của Hòa ước đã ghi rõ: “Nhật Bản từ bỏ chủ quyền, danh nghĩa và tham vọng đối với các quần đảo Paracel và Sprathly” (khoản f).

 

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Not understand is also proved dangerous, the wiki source is not authentic, you can adjust the information at any time, I need to send a note to see.

Read the reference, you can translate or Vietnamese people can talk with you
Where Paracel (Hoang Sa), Spralty (Truong Sa) were in this....At this time Chine have only one Hainan, not Taiwan island, and nothing. You didn'd have anything, you should be nothing.

https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/politics/20140524/vietnam-clarifies-late-pm’s-official-letter-wrongfully-cited-by-china/9697.html

Late PM’s letter does not mention sovereignty

A correspondent from VietNamNet asked Hai about the fact that China says that in 1958 the then Vietnamese Prime Minister Pham Van Dong sent to his then Chinese counterpart Zhou Enlai a diplomatic letter in which Vietnam recognized China’s sovereignty over Hoang Sa and Truong Sa.

“Is this true and does such an official letter have a legal validity?” the reporter asked. In reply, Hai said, “The late PM Dong’s official letter is a diplomatic document, the content of which has validity. "

"The letter says that Vietnam respects China’s territorial waters of 12 nautical miles, and does not mention territorial sovereignty as well as the Truong Sa and Hoang Sa issue.”

Therefore, this letter is not valid in the issue of sovereignty over the two archipelagoes, Hai insisted.

“In addition, the letter was issued to China in the time where Hoang Sa was under the management of the Republic of Vietnam [the administration of South Vietnam before 1975] according to the 1954 Geneva treaty to which China was a party.

“So how could the Democratic Republic of Vietnam offer what it did not own [Hoang Sa] to China at that time [1958]?” Hai said, adding that the China has wrongfully cited the letter.

In 1974, China used forces to occupy Vietnam’s Hoang Sa. At that time, both the Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government of the Republic of South Vietnam protested the move, Hai stated, noting that the United Nations Charter and international law prohibit the use of force to violate the territory of other countries.

China has for a long time released such misleading information related to Vietnam’s sovereignty over Hoang Sa, and repeated it recently whenever Vietnam requested the country to remove its rig from the Vietnamese waters, Hai said.

The rig is located at 15°29’58’’ North latitude and 111°12’06’’ East longitude in the East Vietnam Sea, which lies well within Vietnam’s exclusive economic zone and continental shelf, the Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs insisted.

Năm 1949, Tổ chức khí tượng thế giới (OMM: OrganisationMondiale de Meteorologie) đã chấp nhận đơn xin đăng ký danh sách các trạm khí tượng do Pháp xây dựng tại quần đảo Hoàng Sa và quần đảo Trường Sa vào danh sách các trạm khí tượng thế giới: Trạm Phú Lâm, số hiệu 48859, Trạm Hoàng Sa số hiệu 48860, Trạm Ba Bình số hiệu 48419.

Ngày 8 tháng 3 năm 1949, Pháp ký với Bảo Đại Hiệp định Hạ Long trao trả độc lập cho chính phủ Bảo Đại, tháng 4, Hoàng thân Bửu Lộc, tuyên bố khẳng định lại chủ quyền của Việt Nam đối với Hoàng Sa.

Ngày 14 tháng 10 năm 1950, Tổng trấn Trung phần Phan Văn Giáo đã chủ trì việc bàn giao quản lý quần đảo Hoàng Sa giữa Chính phủ Pháp và Chính phủ Bảo Đại.

Từ ngày 5 tháng 9 đến ngày 8 tháng 9 năm 1951, Hội nghị San Francisco có đại diện của 51 nước tham dự để ký kết Hòa ước với Nhật. Tại phiên họp toàn thể mở rộng, ngày 5 tháng 9, với 48 phiếu chống, 3 phiếu thuận, đã bác bỏ đề nghị của ngoại trưởng Gromưco (Liên Xô cũ) về việc tu chỉnh khoản 13 của Dự thảo Hòa ước, trong đó có nội dung: Nhật thừa nhận chủ quyền của CHND Trung Hoa đối với quần đảo Hoàng Sa và những đảo xa hơn nữa về phía Nam.

Ngày 7 tháng 9 năm 1951, Thủ tướng kiêm Ngoại trưởng của Chính phủ Quốc gia Việt Nam Trần Văn Hữu đã long trọng tuyên bố hai quần đảo Hoàng Sa và Trường Sa là lãnh thổ của Việt Nam. Không một đại biểu nào trong Hội nghị có bình luận gì về tuyên bố này. Ngày 8 tháng 9 năm 1951, Hòa ước với Nhật được ký kết. Điều 2, Đoạn 7 của Hòa ước đã ghi rõ: “Nhật Bản từ bỏ chủ quyền, danh nghĩa và tham vọng đối với các quần đảo Paracel và Sprathly” (khoản f).

I trust the wiki sources which is from 3rd party more than some Vietnamese website.

The Czech Republic thinks otherwise...

https://www.irozhlas.cz/zpravy-domo...mpaign=mnt-daily-23.07.2019&utm_content=34721

Essentially, two Czech Huawei employees admitted...

https://www.radio.cz/en/section/cur...-information-was-discussed-at-chinese-embassy
“Access to the information, which is stored in this customer relationship management system, is managed exclusively from the headquarters in China. It is very hard to find and prove who has access to this data and what they use it for.”

The problem for everyone with this kind of HUMINT based data collection methods, there is no telling when sensitive information was accessed. All the human agent has to do is open the portal or send a data packet at the assigned time. This is not about hardware backdoor which can be discovered. With China's National Intelligence Law, anyone who is employed by a Chinese company anywhere in the world can be co-opted into working as an intelligence data collector for the Party.

That is wrong info those people just take info from meetings and input into the database. They didn’t access the 5G network and took the date from there. Besides those two are unknown claiming that are from Huawei, how would even know they are from CIA spreading false info.

 

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I trust the wiki sources which is from 3rd party more than some Vietnamese website.

You see this Note, where....Paracel??? where...Spralty...???You can ask your scientist, historian of Chinese, they can help you to known true of history. if you have more time, goto library and search it.
In Wiki, you can delected and write something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Francisco#cite_note-14

At San Francisco, 51 COUNTRIES SIGNED WITH JAPAN, On September 8, 1951, a Peace Treaty with Japan was signed. Article 2, Paragraph 7 of the Treaty, states: "Japan relinquishes its sovereignty, title and ambition to the Paracel and Sprathly Islands; there are of Vietnam" (paragraph f).

 

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You see this Note, where....Paracel??? where...Spralty...???You can ask your scientist, historian of Chinese, they can help you to known true of history. if you have more time, goto library and search it.
In Wiki, you can delected and write something.


At San Francisco, 51 COUNTRIES SIGNED WITH JAPAN, On September 8, 1951, a Peace Treaty with Japan was signed. Article 2, Paragraph 7 of the Treaty, states: "Japan relinquishes its sovereignty, title and ambition to the Paracel and Sprathly Islands; there are of Vietnam" (paragraph f).

Sorry that 1958 statement is valid. Also those were under the French that time, which they gave up when they left.

 

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http://www.thanhniennews.com/politi...legal-basis-to-chinas-island-claim-26821.html

You believe the wiki is correct, so you have read the source that WIKI cited, it leads to not recognize that problem.
The brain is for reading and thinking, not for controlling the hand.

On 20 July 1954, the Geneva Agreement was signed and recognized a country with independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity and unity. Article 1 of the Agreement stipulates that Ben Hai river (parallel 17) is used as a temporary boundary to divide the territorial management rights between the two South and North Vietnam. This temporary boundary is also extended by a straight line from the coast to the offshore (Article 4). The Paracel and Spratly Islands are located below the 17th parallel, which is under the control of the South Vietnamese government.
In April 1956, when the French expeditionary army withdrew from Indochina, the Vietnamese national army, later the Republic of Vietnam, took over the western group of the Paracel Islands.
In the face of the invasion of a number of islands in the Paracel and Spratly Islands, conducted by China and the Philippines at the time of this time, the Government of the Republic of Vietnam voiced objections: On 24 months On 5 and 8 June 1956, the Republic of Vietnam issued a statement emphasizing that the Paracel Islands together with the Spratly Islands were "always part of Vietnam" and affirmed the long-standing sovereignty of Vietnam. Male.
On August 22, 1956, the HQ04 ship of the Republic of Vietnam Navy went to the Spratly Islands to set up a sovereignty stele, erected the flag, and protected the archipelago from illegal acts of infringement and infringement on Vietnam's sovereignty Loan and the Philippines.
On October 20, 1956, by Decree 143 / VN, the Republic of Vietnam placed the Spratly Islands under Phuoc Tuy province.
In 1960, the Republic of Vietnam decided to appoint Mr. Nguyen Ba Thuoc, a first-class administrative officer in Tam Ky, Quang Nam, as Hoang Sa Administrative Envoy; June 27, 1961, Mr. Hoang Yem was appointed as Hoang Sa Administrative Officer. On July 13, 1961, the Republic of Vietnam annexed the Paracel Islands to Quang Nam province. On April 11, 1967, the Republic of Vietnam issued Decree No. 809-ND-DUHC appointing Mr. Tran Chuan as administrative envoy of Dinh Hai commune (Hoang Sa), Hoa Vang district, Quang Nam province. On October 21, 1969, with the Prime Minister's Decree No. 709-BNV-HCĐP-26 merging Dinh Hai commune (Hoang Sa archipelago) into Hoa Long commune, Hoa Vang district, Quang Nam province.
On July 13, 1971, at the ASPEC Manila Conference, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Vietnam Tran Van Lam declared that the Hoang Sa and Truong Sa archipelagos were under Vietnamese sovereignty.
On September 6, 1973, the Minister of the Interior of the Republic of Vietnam signed Decree 420-BNV-HCĐP / 26 to merge the Spratly Islands into Phuoc Hai commune, Dat Do district, Phuoc Tuy province.
From January 17 to January 20, 1974, China mobilized its military forces to occupy the Western group, the Paracel Islands. Despite the brave fighting, many soldiers bravely sacrificed, the Republic of Vietnam army did not prevent the Chinese invasion. However, on the diplomatic front of the Republic of Vietnam, there was a strong opposition to the United Nations and the international community: on January 19, 1974, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Vietnam issued a Statement calling for the people who love justice and peace condemn China's brutal aggression.

 

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Sorry that 1958 statement is valid. Also those were under the French that time, which they gave up when they left.

China and North Vietnam had signed in to Geneva Accords 1954 with France, so China must to know that Paracel and Spratly belong to South Vietnam. North Vietnam does not have right to say about South Vietnam sovereignty.

Pham Van Dong has written about 12 miles coastline is related from North Vietnam and Mainland of china only .

 

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China and North Vietnam had signed in to Geneva Accords 1954 with France, so China must to know that Paracel and Spratly belong to South Vietnam. North Vietnam does not have right to say about South Vietnam sovereignty.

Pham Van Dong has written about 12 miles coastline is related from North Vietnam and Mainland of china only .

If you are a pilot, don't waste your time here. Meaningless argument, buddy.

Politics are all about interest. When China and Vietnam have a settlement, we will know. There will be a deal behind the curtain.

Both China and Vietnam are rational, public opinions are important, but national interest are even more important.

I hope China and Vietnam will settle the dispute one day, before any color revolution happens in Vietnam. Otherwise, the US will incite Vietnamese and make the deal impossible, just like Philippines.

Thank goodness, Philippines is lake of power and in self-destruction.

I believe Vietnam will be much stronger than most of ASEAN countries. Because we have similar ideology and political system, and culture.

 

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That is wrong info those people just take info from meetings and input into the database. They didn’t access the 5G network and took the date from there.

That is not the point and we all know it.

Besides those two are unknown claiming that are from Huawei, how would even know they are from CIA spreading false info.

Sure. Always the default CIA boogeyman.

 

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http://www.thanhniennews.com/politi...legal-basis-to-chinas-island-claim-26821.html

You believe the wiki is correct, so you have read the source that WIKI cited, it leads to not recognize that problem.
The brain is for reading and thinking, not for controlling the hand.

On 20 July 1954, the Geneva Agreement was signed and recognized a country with independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity and unity. Article 1 of the Agreement stipulates that Ben Hai river (parallel 17) is used as a temporary boundary to divide the territorial management rights between the two South and North Vietnam. This temporary boundary is also extended by a straight line from the coast to the offshore (Article 4). The Paracel and Spratly Islands are located below the 17th parallel, which is under the control of the South Vietnamese government.
In April 1956, when the French expeditionary army withdrew from Indochina, the Vietnamese national army, later the Republic of Vietnam, took over the western group of the Paracel Islands.
In the face of the invasion of a number of islands in the Paracel and Spratly Islands, conducted by China and the Philippines at the time of this time, the Government of the Republic of Vietnam voiced objections: On 24 months On 5 and 8 June 1956, the Republic of Vietnam issued a statement emphasizing that the Paracel Islands together with the Spratly Islands were "always part of Vietnam" and affirmed the long-standing sovereignty of Vietnam. Male.
On August 22, 1956, the HQ04 ship of the Republic of Vietnam Navy went to the Spratly Islands to set up a sovereignty stele, erected the flag, and protected the archipelago from illegal acts of infringement and infringement on Vietnam's sovereignty Loan and the Philippines.
On October 20, 1956, by Decree 143 / VN, the Republic of Vietnam placed the Spratly Islands under Phuoc Tuy province.
In 1960, the Republic of Vietnam decided to appoint Mr. Nguyen Ba Thuoc, a first-class administrative officer in Tam Ky, Quang Nam, as Hoang Sa Administrative Envoy; June 27, 1961, Mr. Hoang Yem was appointed as Hoang Sa Administrative Officer. On July 13, 1961, the Republic of Vietnam annexed the Paracel Islands to Quang Nam province. On April 11, 1967, the Republic of Vietnam issued Decree No. 809-ND-DUHC appointing Mr. Tran Chuan as administrative envoy of Dinh Hai commune (Hoang Sa), Hoa Vang district, Quang Nam province. On October 21, 1969, with the Prime Minister's Decree No. 709-BNV-HCĐP-26 merging Dinh Hai commune (Hoang Sa archipelago) into Hoa Long commune, Hoa Vang district, Quang Nam province.
On July 13, 1971, at the ASPEC Manila Conference, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Vietnam Tran Van Lam declared that the Hoang Sa and Truong Sa archipelagos were under Vietnamese sovereignty.
On September 6, 1973, the Minister of the Interior of the Republic of Vietnam signed Decree 420-BNV-HCĐP / 26 to merge the Spratly Islands into Phuoc Hai commune, Dat Do district, Phuoc Tuy province.
From January 17 to January 20, 1974, China mobilized its military forces to occupy the Western group, the Paracel Islands. Despite the brave fighting, many soldiers bravely sacrificed, the Republic of Vietnam army did not prevent the Chinese invasion. However, on the diplomatic front of the Republic of Vietnam, there was a strong opposition to the United Nations and the international community: on January 19, 1974, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Vietnam issued a Statement calling for the people who love justice and peace condemn China's brutal aggression.

Need to note down the 1958 recognized by N Vietnam is due to S Vietnam occupying those islands so they don't have control of it in the first place which is why they recognized the China claim. N Vietnam won the Vietnam war and than they change their minds over it which is too bad.

That is not the point and we all know it.


Sure. Always the default CIA boogeyman.

Like the 2003 Iraq war which the CIA created an excuse to invade.

 

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If you are a pilot, don't waste your time here. Meaningless argument, buddy.

Politics are all about interest. When China and Vietnam have a settlement, we will know. There will be a deal behind the curtain.

Both China and Vietnam are rational, public opinions are important, but national interest are even more important.

I hope China and Vietnam will settle the dispute one day, before any color revolution happens in Vietnam. Otherwise, the US will incite Vietnamese and make the deal impossible, just like Philippines.

Thank goodness, Philippines is lake of power and in self-destruction.

I believe Vietnam will be much stronger than most of ASEAN countries. Because we have similar ideology and political system, and culture.

Color revolution in Vietnam?
Unless chinese agents incite unrest, chaos, bloodshed the chance is nil.

Need to note down the 1958 recognized by N Vietnam is due to S Vietnam occupying those islands so they don't have control of it in the first place which is why they recognized the China claim. N Vietnam won the Vietnam war and than they change their minds over it which is too bad.
.

Ok China has a paper written in Viet language. Why don’t you sue Vietnam at an international court? What’s stopping you?

 

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Like the 2003 Iraq war which the CIA created an excuse to invade.

Give it up on the CIA angle. No one is buying it. On the other hand, China's National Security Law is available for all to see. Some are seduced by China's sweet talk and some are not. That the way it goes. But as we in the West say -- the jig is up. Meaning the China deception is exposed.

 

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Need to note down the 1958 recognized by N Vietnam is due to S Vietnam occupying those islands so they don't have control of it in the first place which is why they recognized the China claim. N Vietnam won the Vietnam war and than they change their minds over it which is too bad.


Like the 2003 Iraq war which the CIA created an excuse to invade.

Do you now acknowledge that the 1958 source is incorrect? Does the document mention that VIETNAM RECEIVES PARACEL, SPRALTY? What did you do there in 1958 until you went to pirate again in 1974? You deliberately misrepresented, put words into other people's mouths, but those things proved us wrong, you say. lie.
I mentioned, your government is demoralized, brainwashing you, stuffing untrue things, spreading lies and trying to cover up your dark history.

STOP HERE, THIS IS POST 5G

 

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Give it up on the CIA angle. No one is buying it. On the other hand, China's National Security Law is available for all to see. Some are seduced by China's sweet talk and some are not. That the way it goes. But as we in the West say -- the jig is up. Meaning the China deception is exposed.

It's well known that the Iraq 2003 invasion was base on a lie.

Do you now acknowledge that the 1958 source is incorrect? Does the document mention that VIETNAM RECEIVES PARACEL, SPRALTY? What did you do there in 1958 until you went to pirate again in 1974? You deliberately misrepresented, put words into other people's mouths, but those things proved us wrong, you say. lie.
I mentioned, your government is demoralized, brainwashing you, stuffing untrue things, spreading lies and trying to cover up your dark history.

STOP HERE, THIS IS POST 5G

Sorry but when China took the Paracel Islands, they were under S Vietnam control in 74. N Vietnam change it's mind later after S Vietnam is gone and by then it's too late. N Vietnam has no say what happens to the island before 1975.

Color revolution in Vietnam?
Unless chinese agents incite unrest, chaos, bloodshed the chance is nil.


Ok China has a paper written in Viet language. Why don’t you sue Vietnam at an international court? What’s stopping you?

Can be done but Vietnam will just claim that paper is made up saying that they have the real original one which is edit after 1975. So no point.

 

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It's well known that the Iraq 2003 invasion was base on a lie.



Sorry but when China took the Paracel Islands, they were under S Vietnam control in 74. N Vietnam change it's mind later after S Vietnam is gone and by then it's too late. N Vietnam has no say what happens to the island before 1975.



Can be done but Vietnam will just claim that paper is made up saying that they have the real original one which is edit after 1975. So no point.

ex: The guy who robbed your family killed them, then he told this was his house, so what will you do?

 

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Sorry but when China took the Paracel Islands, they were under S Vietnam control in 74. N Vietnam change it's mind later after S Vietnam is gone and by then it's too late. N Vietnam has no say what happens to the island before 1975.

Chinese is liar. and idiot.

North Korean can not say that South Korean controlled Dokdo Island is Japan' territory.