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Vietnam's K-300P system can attack Chinese targets in Hainan

Staff Reporter 2015-06-13 14:25 (GMT+8)
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Vietnam's K-300P Bastion-P mobile coastal defence missile system. (Internet photo)

The People's Navy of Vietnam is capable of launching a direct attack against Shanya Naval Base located on the island of Hainan with its K-300P Bastion-P mobile coastal defense missile system, according to Kanwa Defense Review, a Chinese-language military magazine based in Canada.

Vietnam devotes lot of attention to its coastal defenses due to its territorial dispute with China over the South China Sea. The K-300P Bastion-P introduced from Russia allows the Vietnamese navy to launch P-800 Oniks anti-ship cruise missiles designed to damage or sink enemy surface combat vessels. With an attack range of 300 kilometers, the missile can reach critical Chinese targets near the island of Hainan.

Since Hainan is now a staging base for People's Liberation Army to project its forces into the South China Sea, the K-300P Bastion-P has the potential to bring serious losses to China's South Sea Fleet. When engaging the Chinese navy in its costal region, the Kh-35E anti-ship ballistic missile with which the Vietnamese navy's two Gepard-class frigates and other warships are equipped is deadly to any Chinese vessels operating in the region.

The attack range of the Kh-35E is currently 130 km. However, this range can be extended to 260 km if the Vietnamese navy chooses to equip its warships with the more advanced Kh-35UE Super-Uran missile, according to the Kanwa Defense Review. The weapons systems could give Vietnam the edge in a potential asymmetric conflict against China.

Vietnam's K-300P system can attack Chinese targets in Hainan|WantChinaTimes.com
 
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first of all copy paste rather than quote it or one can not quote from it
This is one of the craziest most amatuar reporting I have ever seen.
First of all the city is called Sanya, not Shanya. Secondly the base is known as Yulin Navy base, not Shanya Naval Base.
Also the fact that ships can be targeted is the funniest thing, because guess what the Yulin base is meant to host Chinese Submarine fleets, which sadly are housed in strengthened bunkers and kinda are not surface ships. Also considering the bases importance, I would venture a guess they have a very strong anti ballistic system in place, so any aircraft carriers based in this area will have ample protection, but then again who am I to argue with this reporting. Sad desperate reporting coupled with awful research has lead to this piece.
@Chinese-Dragon you must read this
 
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China is equipped for a massive showdown against six or more USN carrier battlegroups. A few import grade Onyx missiles fired by Vietnam is no threat at all. It will result in several hundred megatons of nuclear warheads on Viet population centers, reducing their population from 80+ million to 3 million after radiation and starvation sets in. Then Cambodia will attack and slaughter the survivors.
 
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China is equipped for a massive showdown against six or more USN carrier battlegroups. A few import grade Onyx missiles fired by Vietnam is no threat at all. It will result in several hundred megatons of nuclear warheads on Viet population centers, reducing their population from 80+ million to 3 million after radiation and starvation sets in. Then Cambodia will attack and slaughter the survivors.

I doubt it will come down to that.


Having the capability does not necessarily mean actually doing it. America has the capability to glass the entire planet 10 times over, yet it does not do so. China has the capability to incinerate Vietnam, but She will not do so because at the end of the day the Chinese, as civilizational progenitors of East Asia, always wishes to cultivate peace and growth within the region. Whether you like it or not (or for nationalistic folks for that matter), the Chinese actually wish to build greater economic and cultural links with Viet Nam, as do most Vietnamese (the average folks, not the uber nationalistic ones).

I think the time of war in East Asia has ended. Now is the time for cooperation and development. The politicization of territorial disputes is a guise, a guise to eventually cause greater integration of Asian countries. In the end, I believe that the region (Vietnam included) will find common ground with the Chinese. As in Confucian culture and much of Chinese society is based on and focused on the concept of Finding Harmony internally and externally.

This concept is known as 和谐


@TaiShang @Shotgunner51 @Chinese-Dragon, @cnleio @Yizhi
 
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China is equipped for a massive showdown against six or more USN carrier battlegroups. A few import grade Onyx missiles fired by Vietnam is no threat at all. It will result in several hundred megatons of nuclear warheads on Viet population centers, reducing their population from 80+ million to 3 million after radiation and starvation sets in. Then Cambodia will attack and slaughter the survivors.
If there ever was such a foolish move by the Vietnam army, which I highly doubt, China would follow the route of conventional warfare, with a limited response. Chinese doctrine is on no first use, as well as defensive warfare. It may involve some air strikes and a show of power but no massive attack.
 
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If there ever was such a foolish move by the Vietnam army, which I highly doubt, China would follow the route of conventional warfare, with a limited response. Chinese doctrine is on no first use, as well as defensive warfare. It may involve some air strikes and a show of power but no massive attack.

Very well said, @Gufi . If I may also add, the use of nuclear weapons by China on say Vietnam (which lies on its southern belly and is in proximity of China's three large southern provinces of Guanxi, Hainan and Guangdong) --- which is home to over 300 million Chinese -- would not only be a violation of humanity, but one that would cause deaths to Vietnamese as well as Chinese people. The effects of nuclear fallout would of course devastate the local fauna and flora of Southeast Asia / East Asia.

If ever there was to be a war, like you said, it would be conventional based. But as it stands, the likelihood of military conflict between Vietnam and China is very low. There are active governmental processes in the works now between Beijing and Hanoi to reduce tension and develop mutual understanding. In the art of statecraft, nations will always have 'differences' , will always have claims and counterclaims. But the art to this is to finding compromise --- as in politics.
 
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Very well said, @Gufi . If I may also add, the use of nuclear weapons by China on say Vietnam (which lies on its southern belly and is in proximity of China's three large southern provinces of Guanxi, Hainan and Guangdong) --- which is home to over 300 million Chinese -- would not only be a violation of humanity, but one that would cause deaths to Vietnamese as well as Chinese people. The effects of nuclear fallout would of course devastate the local fauna and flora of Southeast Asia / East Asia.

If ever there was to be a war, like you said, it would be conventional based. But as it stands, the likelihood of military conflict between Vietnam and China is very low. There are active governmental processes in the works now between Beijing and Hanoi to reduce tension and develop mutual understanding. In the art of statecraft, nations will always have 'differences' , will always have claims and counterclaims. But the art to this is to finding compromise --- as in politics.
Unlike excited people here, the Chinese government is very mature as can be seen from the fact of bombings by a neighbour which killed Chinese civilians. There was no rush to war but rather diplomatic warnings and a defensive shield set up around the area. Hopefully the situation does not deteriorate with any countries required to go nuclear because a nuclear war in the region would be disaster for man kind at large.
 
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Unlike excited people here, the Chinese government is very mature as can be seen from the fact of bombings by a neighbour which killed Chinese civilians. There was no rush to war but rather diplomatic warnings and a defensive shield set up around the area. Hopefully the situation does not deteriorate with any countries required to go nuclear because a nuclear war in the region would be disaster for man kind at large.
Myanmar was an "accidental" bombing but Viet can hardly use that excuse. A war against Vietnam would be total war, ending only with termination of Hanoi regime, occupation and puppet government.
 
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first of all copy paste rather than quote it or one can not quote from it
This is one of the craziest most amatuar reporting I have ever seen.
First of all the city is called Sanya, not Shanya. Secondly the base is known as Yulin Navy base, not Shanya Naval Base.
Also the fact that ships can be targeted is the funniest thing, because guess what the Yulin base is meant to host Chinese Submarine fleets, which sadly are housed in strengthened bunkers and kinda are not surface ships. Also considering the bases importance, I would venture a guess they have a very strong anti ballistic system in place, so any aircraft carriers based in this area will have ample protection, but then again who am I to argue with this reporting. Sad desperate reporting coupled with awful research has lead to this piece.
@Chinese-Dragon you must read this

Sanya is something like 200km from Vietnam. If a land based missile doesn't even that much range, I would be very hard pressed to call it a missile. BTW, by the same argument, Chinese rocket artillery can cover half Vietnam from Sanya.

Also, wantchinatimes, enough said.
 
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Myanmar was an "accidental" bombing but Viet can hardly use that excuse. A war against Vietnam would be total war, ending only with termination of Hanoi regime, occupation and puppet government.

I don't think you will be able to occupy and hold Vietnam. Heck! I don't think anyone will be able to hold Vietnam.

They are a bunch of proud nationalistic people, who will fight back, and no military is capable of fighting a continuous guerilla warfare.
 
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Sanya is something like 200km from Vietnam. If a land based missile doesn't even that much range, I would be very hard pressed to call it a missile. BTW, by the same argument, Chinese rocket artillery can cover half Vietnam from Sanya.

Also, wantchinatimes, enough said.


@tranquilium ,

If you reviewed @Gufi 's post, he was inferring the futility of such an offensive strike by the Vietnamese as it would result in a resolute conventional response. Therein is the central theme --- Vietnam's defense mandate is focused on defense-related and is there to respond to a Chinese or what have you -- foreign offensive. The Vietnamese , if you observe their recent campaigns in : 1) Vietnam proper vis-a-vis Vietnam War, 2) Cambodian-Vietnam War Campaign, 3) Sino-Vietnamese War -- all have been defensive in nature and were in response to an offensive campaign by the opponent. In regards to the Cambodian War, it was the Khmer Rouge that initiated hostilities by attacking the island of Phu Quoc and initiating border attacks; or when the Chinese invaded northern Vietnam in 1979.

Understanding this military situation and character, one will understand that so long as Vietnam will not launch offensive strikes (which it won't) then the threat of a Chinese offensive / invasion is tactically nill.
 
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please don't waste your time in such topic, it's meaningless. because Viet is too close to China, and China have to many ways to deal with K300P. be reasonable, boys .
 
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