Vietnam vice minister apologizes to Japan for “$2 Billion loan” gaffe

[sicsheep]

Then, pls use ur money wt poor Chinese kids, some of them were frozen and starved to death in trash bin in last winter.

yet our infant mortality still lower than Vietnam, poor Vietnamese kids die too young.

 

[bolo]

loool My friend Niceguy Russia,France, and U.S want a strong Vietnam? Jeez....So far your comments on 'aid' has been quite commendable to be honest, but you are still insisting on 'friends' in geo politics? lool There is no such thing as friend bro. Every country only cares about themselves first and foremost. Wanting Vietnam which doesnt really gives these countries anything apart from being a buyer of their weapon systems and paying back laons for decades and decades to come, apart from this Vietnam is of no real use to the above powers to be honest. I already told you that, no najor power will really like to see you strong, simply becasue you ebing weak is better for them, since they can negotiate with you from a position of strength(which wouldnt have been the case if you were string and independent of weapons production and other products). You are better off poor and weak for big powers, believe me. This is one of the main reason we in the west divided Africa in 53 little states/countries(same with some middle eastern countries like Syria/iraq/lebanon etc who were all drawn by we and France using imaginary lines.lol , so they can be divided, poor and weak. This makes it easier for us to control,using their own divisions/conflicts and keep exploiting/dominating them/the region(they also have themsleves to blame though, since every country is only looking for their interests, same with us). Its no different with Vietnam. A weak Vietnam will always be far far more better for us to deal with that a strong and confident vietnam.

Its for this reason India isnt't(and i dont think it will anytime soon) a U.S ally, since they are already too big and selfish of their sovereignty to be a U.S ally(which means of course subordinate/junior partner). Its for this reason, i think that India has resisted being a U.S ally, despite both countries sharing a mutual wariness against China. India doesnt want to be a junior partner and want to also be respected a 'big boy' in its own league. However thats unlikely to happen, since India is still quite weak and realies mostly on imports to meet its defence needs(which is a major factor to judge a world power), and its world trade is miniscule(smaller/not much bigger than even south Korea), so its ability to influence world issues/business/markets is very very limited compared to the U.S , China, E.U , Japan and even Russia. So reason the U.S doesnt want to recognize it as an equal partner/ally for now. For Vietnam who is much more poorer(not sure about this though.llol) than India, and far far weaker than India, its easier for the U.S,Russia, France to get contracts/negotiate with Vietnam and cut deals on their own terms with a weaker country than with a strong country. Why would they want a strong Vietnam?lol Things are ok as it is right now, so no reason for them to want a more stringer Vietnam who might not always agree with them or their interests. So stop dreaming tforeign powers want you to be stronger and that they will 'help' you achieve that. thats quite naive to be honest my friend Niceguy. Vietnamese people need to rely on themselves, make their governments accountable and transparent, implement policies to develop human talents/skilled workforce, since the risk for Vietnam is if companies that want to invest in your country can’t find the workforce they need, they will look elsewhere. Human infrastructure is as important as physical infrastructure, Vietnam also needs to focus on making its workforce more productive and alleviating skills barriers to labor mobility. So in short Vietnam needs to develop both its human and physical infrastructure and make itself attractive to foriegn high tech company to want not only to invest in assembly but also training/recuiting vietnamese skilled workers(thsi again requires a strong educational sector/vocational training). Companies/countries will invest in your country as far as they see you have the necessary infrastructure/base to provide them with a good Return on their investment, whether you are a friend or not, doesnt matter one bit. Just like we have been investing in China(which we still consider a major rival/threat), not because we love them or want to 'help' them, simply because we know our companies have a good chance of doing good business/reaping huge profits from operating there(since they already have all the above i mentioned, which attracts our companies), same will be the case with Vietnam. This is the key to long term/sustained development which other Asian tigers followed and prospered, not through aid or help from 'friendly' countries.. If you are waiting for 'help' from friendly countries then im afraid you will have to join the African 'aid' development queue since they have been there waiting for 'help' from foreign powers/rich countries before Vietnam., so if you keep this mentality im afraid Vietnam will remain one of the poorest(more than even philippines.) countries in south East Asia/Asia for a long time to come. I say it again: NEVER EXPECT ANYTHING FROM OTHERS AND YOU WILL NEVER BE DISAPPOINTED.

dude you better hope NiceGuy doesn't find a UK article about children died by trash bin.

 

[mike2000]

dude you better hope NiceGuy doesn't find a UK article about children died by trash bin.

lool now that will be interesting.

 

[Kyle Sun]

My dirty government? lol. You talk too loud, my Vietnamese friend. Be humble

now you know what kind of people they are .

 

[Rechoice]

now you know what kind of people they are .

Chinese inferior cheering kid, Japanese will rule you again, bravo.

 

[Kyle Sun]

Chinese inferior cheering kid, Japanese will rule you again, bravo.

Yeah yeah, we are weak!
And Viet is the giant of asian

 

[Aepsilons]

now you know what kind of people they are .

Its best not to take some comments too seriously as it can only serve in conflagration. Don't take @NiceGuy 's statements too seriously.

 

[Kyle Sun]

Its best not to take some comments too seriously as it can only serve in conflagration. Don't take @NiceGuy 's statements too seriously.

I want to ignore him also.

But he acts like a mad dog, once he bites you, he will never let you go

 

[Aepsilons]

Chinese inferior cheering kid, Japanese will rule you again, bravo.

Please, let's remain calm. No need for that kind of talk, only will cause unwanted irritation.

 

[Aepsilons]

@Rechoice , @Viet , @Carlosa :

Despite some minor disagreements, in the end, Japanese Government sees the strategic importance of Vietnam. Besides, in Kishida's last visit to Vietnam, he was showered with so much love by the Vietnamese

he he ...

 

[terranMarine]

Perhaps more ODA should be poured into Vietnam and the vietcong can keep calling Japan a dirty country

 

[Aepsilons]

Perhaps more ODA should be poured into Vietnam and the vietcong can keep calling Japan a dirty country

ha ha ha. Let's OD them on ODA!

 

[NiceGuy]

dude you better hope NiceGuy doesn't find a UK article about children died by trash bin.

EU r friendly countries of VN now, so we have no reason to quarrel.

 

[NiceGuy]

I want to ignore him also.

But he acts like a mad dog, once he bites you, he will never let you go

I just tell the Truth, and it seem hurt some Ah Q like u .

Many VNese know the truth abt dirty ODA. Even over sea VNese also know it. For example: in this site, they explain why JP keep pouring ODA to VN in 2009 after they stopped when a big corrupted case happened in 2008, bcz they (JP) wanna have a bigger share in big VN state own companies like Telecom, electric power and petrol .

Vấn đề là tại sao Nhật Bản đã phản ứng khá mạnh mẽ khi vụ tham nhũng PCI bùng nổ lớn từ đầu tháng 6 năm 2008 qua quyết định khởi tố của tòa án Tokyo đối với 4 cán bộ của công ty PCI?

Bộ trưởng Kế hoạch đầu tư Việt Nam, ông Võ Hồng Phúc
Áp lực chính trị mà chính phủ Nhật đặt lên Cộng sản Việt Nam chỉ là diện; điểm cốt lõi mà Nhật tung biện pháp ngưng viện trợ ODA hơn 1 tỷ Mỹ Kim trong năm 2009 là để buộc Cộng sản Việt Nam phải dành ưu tiên cho Nhật một số hợp đồng kinh tế mang tính cách dài hạn. Ông Võ Hồng Phúc, Bộ trưởng kế hoạch đầu tư của Cộng sản Việt Nam đã đến Nhật hôm 20 tháng 2, với một bản cam kết là Hà Nội sẽ dành ưu tiên cho một số công ty lớn của Nhật Bản trực tiếp đầu tư nên Nhật mới rút lại lệnh ngưng viện trợ ODA hôm 23 tháng 2. Cho đến nay, người ta chưa biết rõ chi tiết về những cam kết của Hà Nội, nhưng dựa theo một số phân tích của giới đầu tư tại Tokyo thì ba lãnh vực sau đây mà Cộng sản Việt Nam sẽ xúc tiến việc giải tư và ưu tiên cho công ty Nhật nhảy vào là: Viễn Thông, Điện Lực và Dầu Khí.

Tại sao Nhật Bản quyết định tái viện trợ ODA cho Cộng sản Việt Nam
Google translate:
Why Japan decided to re-ODA to Vietnam Communist

1. với một bản cam kết là Hà Nội sẽ dành ưu tiên cho một số công ty lớn của Nhật Bản trực tiếp đầu tư nên Nhật mới rút lại lệnh ngưng viện trợ ODA hôm 23 tháng 2---------------------with a commitment that Hanoi will prioritize a large number of Japanese companies directly to invest, so JP will keep supporting ODA from Tuesday February 23 2009

2.Cộng sản Việt Nam sẽ xúc tiến việc giải tư và ưu tiên cho công ty Nhật nhảy vào là: Viễn Thông, Điện Lực và Dầu Khí.

Communist Vietnam will promote the priorities for investment and Japanese companies are jumping on: Telecommunication, Power and Oil & Gas.

 

[Kyle Sun]

I just tell the Truth, and it seem hurt some Ah Q like u .

Many VNese know the truth abt dirty ODA. Even over sea VNese also know it. For example: in this site, they explain why JP keep pouring ODA to VN in 2009 after stop when a big corrupted case happened, bcz they (JP) wanna have a bigger share in big VN state own companies like Telecom, electric power and petrol .


Tại sao Nhật Bản quyết định tái viện trợ ODA cho Cộng sản Việt Nam

Yeah Yeah , you tell the truth. So please do not accept the ODA and reject the Japanese or Chinese inverstment plz.