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Vietnam ‘Threatened’ by Chinese, Thai Investments in Laos

we are talking about economics affair don't we? not some supa powa military affairs between Vietnam and Laos. This article clearly mentions about Vietnam gov. worry if their economic relations with Laos is threatened by the ever increasing investment of China and Thai companies in Laos. And this is normal, because Thailand and China had direct land border with Laos and they can see the business opportunity in Laos. What Vietnam can do is to maximize her influence in Laos not by compete directly with Thai and China within economic framework, esp by adding more investment in Laos. You can talk about infrastructure project, joint venture with local companies to set up more new business in agro industry sector (because Vietnam has a strong point in this sector especially rice production), sugar cane and so on.

And you can also gain more benefits by propose joint venture with Thai and Chinese or maybe Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia companies who want to set up new business in Laos, because Vietnam already get more experiences in Laos than the rests. I think, economic interconnection between ASEAN Countries will greatly benefit all of us and deter any future conflict that will may happen between ASEAN members.

But if you prefer conflicts and some barbarous manner like the Photos you showing now, i think soon or later Vietnam will be left behind in the global economics progression races.
there r not only Hot war but Cold war being used to defeat enemies,too. If Thai-Chinese and Chinese mainland use Cold war to harm us like what USA did to Soviet union, then we will use Hot war to teach them a lesson again. U cant blame us.
 
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Thai-Laos have brotherly relation, if Thai wants to annexe Laos, it could have done long before your so call 5 divisions came. But Vietnam don't lack of ambition to swallow Laos and that's because of China, Vietnam wouldn't dare to make any move, And Vietnam's dream of this wonderland is fallen apart when Laos is opened itself to the world

If Vietnam is so well treated and has privilege then why feel threatened by China and Thai ?

As ur fellow said:" Business is war without bullets.", so when u start a Cold war against Vn in Laos, we will not just sitting duck and watch. We will teach u the same lesson like in 1979 again:coffee:
 
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Vietnam should have closer military ties with Japan and other nations surrounding China. Sooner or later something needs to be done to silence the threat. Tyranical government will be teached a lesson once and for all.

As ur fellow said:" Business is war without bullets.", so when u start a Cold war against Vn in Laos, we will not just sitting duck and watch. We will teach u the same lesson like in 1979 again:coffee:

Sooner or later when Chinese paper tiger economy burst. Production is moving away form China to Thailand and others. Surrounding countries should take advantage of this and cease the booty.
 
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Sooner or later when Chinese paper tiger economy burst. Production is moving away form China to Thailand and others. Surrounding countries should take advantage of this and cease the booty.
Thai King is Chinese, Thai prime minister is Chinese too,so, they naturally support China. Those Chinese-Thai always make trouble to VN in history, they even invaded us too. We also need help to clean up bad Chinese in Thai.
 
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Proposed high-speed rail network a high investment for Laos


High-speed railway lines connecting Thailand, Laos and China might soon become a reality after the Thai cabinet met with its Lao counterparts in Chiang Mai earlier this week.

THAILAND: High-speed railway lines connecting Thailand, Laos and China might soon become a reality after the Thai cabinet met with its Lao counterparts in Chiang Mai earlier this week.

The proposal would have a major impact on the region as there is currently only vehicle crossing from ASEAN countries into China.

Both governments are planning to spend billions on countrywide railroad infrastructure.

But in Laos, the plan will be nothing short of radical as the country's rail networks are practically non-existent.

The proposed massive rail projects will require loans totalling over half of the country's GDP, which was US$8.3 billion in 2011, according to the World Bank.

Chadchart Sittipunt, Thailand's transport minister, said: "I think the key message for Laos will be how to create value for this high-speed train for Laos. I think we need to talk because I think there will be a lot of investment for Laos. But how will they create value from this big investment? If they can do it, it will be a good connection between Kunming (China), Laos, and Thailand."

Rail links are not a surefire benefit to Laos' economy.

Nevertheless, Vientiane's ambition to transform the landlocked country into an integrated regional player is gaining support from its neighbours.

Last year the Thai government agreed to finance a US$55 million project to build a short railway line bridging Laos' capital with Thailand's Nong Khai province, while it plans its own railway overhaul to be completed in 2020 at a cost of US$69.6 billion.

- CNA/xq

http://http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/proposed-high-speed-rail-network-a-high-/682812.html
 
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Vietnam should have closer military ties with Japan and other nations surrounding China. Sooner or later something needs to be done to silence the threat. Tyranical government will be teached a lesson once and for all.

Sooner or later when Chinese paper tiger economy burst. Production is moving away form China to Thailand and others. Surrounding countries should take advantage of this and cease the booty.

go making your turan dream, anatolian :lol:
 
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Vietnam should have closer military ties with Japan and other nations surrounding China. Sooner or later something needs to be done to silence the threat. Tyranical government will be teached a lesson once and for all.



Sooner or later when Chinese paper tiger economy burst. Production is moving away form China to Thailand and others. Surrounding countries should take advantage of this and cease the booty.

Your own Turkish brother MertKaan thinks pan altaicism is a crock of BS and excludes Japanese and Mongols from his vision of Turanism, and the vast majority of Japanese and Turks don't believe in fantasy Altaic "brotherhood".
 
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Thai King is Chinese, Thai prime minister is Chinese too,so, they naturally support China. Those Chinese-Thai always make trouble to VN in history, they even invaded us too. We also need help to clean up bad Chinese in Thai.

Au Lac and Nanyue were founded by Chinese, first Ly dynasty was founded by Chinese, Tran and Ho dynasties were founded by Chinese, the current president of the Philippines Benguino Aquino's ancestors are Chinese, the Moro Governor of the Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao is also descended from Chinese, your claim that the Thai King and PM support China because they are Chinese is beyond stupid.

jhungary who is descended from Chinese merchants who came to Vietnam during Qing or Republican times and brought their whole families including their wives (so they are "pureblooded" Chinese) constantly attacks China on this forum even though his mother was kicked out of Vietnam in 1979. (as opposed to the non-merchant Minh Huong Chinese who are descended from Chinese who fled to Vietnam after the Ming dynasty fell and married Vietnamese women, and settled in villages).
 
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Au Lac and Nanyue were founded by Chinese, first Ly dynasty was founded by Chinese, Tran and Ho dynasties were founded by Chinese, the current president of the Philippines Benguino Aquino's ancestors are Chinese, the Moro Governor of the Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao is also descended from Chinese, your claim that the Thai King and PM support China because they are Chinese is beyond stupid.
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Some Chinese in ASEAN r good, but those Chinese in Thailand like Thai King are BAD. They let USA used Thai air base to bomb VN, they harbour Chinese-Khmer Pol Pot , and now they collude wt Chinese mainland to harm our interest in Laos.

If that Thai King dont knee down and say sorry for what they did to VN, then their day in ASEAN r numbers, they will have same fate with Pol Pot and those bad Chinese in VN-Laos-Camb in 1979

Bad Chinese in ASEAN is the root of dissidence between native ASEAN people:coffee:
 
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Vietnam has less GDP than my province, perhaps even my hometown.
where is it, your hometown? a slum in Canada?
Of course they cannot match China's investment in Laos and Cambodia. The next step would be to arm Cambodian and Laotian military to a higher standard, while slowly choking Vietnamese interest out of the region. When the time is right, disarm Vietnam to make an example out of them.
..says someone who washes dishes in a restaurant? Do whatever you like.
 
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Vietnam should have closer military ties with Japan and other nations surrounding China. Sooner or later something needs to be done to silence the threat. Tyranical government will be teached a lesson once and for all.



Sooner or later when Chinese paper tiger economy burst. Production is moving away form China to Thailand and others. Surrounding countries should take advantage of this and cease the booty.

Yeah yeah yeah poor China is going to fall Chinese people is going to lose all their $$ Chinese people are doomed Chinese people can no longer spending and wasting $$ traveling around and buy lots of LV and useless luxury products blahblahblah...

Happy now? :coffee:
 
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Some Chinese in ASEAN r good, but those Chinese in Thailand like Thai King are BAD. They let USA used Thai air base to bomb VN, they harbour Chinese-Khmer Pol Pot , and now they collude wt Chinese mainland to harm our interest in Laos.

If that Thai King dont knee down and say sorry for what they did to VN, then their day in ASEAN r numbers, they will have same fate with Pol Pot and those bad Chinese in VN-Laos-Camb in 1979

Bad Chinese in ASEAN is the root of dissidence between native ASEAN people:coffee:

Pol Pot massacred over 225,000 Chinese cambodians, you dumb@$$.

Never Again?

The Specter of Genocide

Cambodia After the Khmer Rouge

Death By Government - Rudolph J. Rummel - Google knygos

When the War Was Over

there r not only Hot war but Cold war being used to defeat enemies,too. If Thai-Chinese and Chinese mainland use Cold war to harm us like what USA did to Soviet union, then we will use Hot war to teach them a lesson again. U cant blame us.

You talking about the genocide you did against the Hmong?

http://www.unpo.org/article/196

Chang Yang, Hmong International Human Rights Watch
This is our fifth time to testify at WGIP. We ask for two things

1) Stop ethnic cleansing of Hmong in Laos.
2) Give access to refugees in Laos and Thailand.

The Hmong capitol has disappeared. When the Laos and Vietnamese community captured the Hmong, they would cut off the penis off and place in the mouth. For the women captured, they are raped and killed. All have sharp object shoved from the vagina to the chest cavity. For children captured, they have toes cut off and also head bashed on trees. Mr. Chair, this is a new century.

Vietnam is a member of the family of nations. We have picture of top Vietnamese General and his officers killed in 1998. They came to kill the Hmong people. I have pictures of the innocent people slaughtered by Vietnamese government. The people are coming to kill the Hmong people. The Hmong refugee that live in Laos and Thailand should be granted refugee status
 
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Pol Pot massacred over 225,000 Chinese cambodians, you dumb@$$.
Thats why Thai King is Bad Chinese and must be kicked out :coffee:

Wholegrain said:
You talking about the genocide you did against the Hmong?
Those Hmong r US's dogs, we just simply help Pathet Lao brother to kick those dogs out:coffee:
Laotian Civil War

The Laotian Civil War (1953–75) was fought between the Communist Pathet Lao (including many North Vietnamese of Lao ancestry) and the Royal Lao Government in which both the political rightists and leftists received heavy external support for a proxy war from the global Cold War superpowers. Among United States Central Intelligence Agency Special Activities Division US and Hmong veterans of the conflict, it is known as the Secret War.[7]
The Kingdom of Laos was a covert theatre for battle for the other belligerents during the Vietnam War. The Franco–Lao Treaty of Amity and Association signed 22 October 1953, transferred remaining French powers – except control of military affairs – to the Royal Lao Government – which did not include any representatives from the Lao Issara anti-colonial armed nationalist movement[8] — and otherwise establishing Laos as an independent member of the French Union.[9]
The following years were marked by a rivalry between the neutralists under Prince Souvanna Phouma, the right wing under Prince Boun Oum of Champassak, and the left-wing Lao Patriotic Front under Prince Souphanouvong and future Prime Minister Kaysone Phomvihane. A number of attempts were made to establish coalition governments, and a "tri-coalition" government was finally seated in Vientiane.
The fighting in Laos involved the North Vietnamese Army, U.S., Thai, and South Vietnamese forces directly and through irregular proxies in a battle for control over the Laotian Panhandle. The North Vietnamese Army occupied the area for use as the Ho Chi Minh Trail supply corridor and staging area for offensives into South Vietnam. There was a second major theatre of action on and near the northern Plain of Jars.
The North Vietnamese and Pathet Lao emerged victorious in 1975, as part of the general communist victory in Indochina that year.
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Main articles: Operation Barrel Roll and Operation Steel Tiger
The Geneva Conference established Laotian neutrality. The People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN), however, continued to operate in both northern and southeastern Laos. There were repeated attempts from 1954 onward to force the North Vietnamese out of Laos but, regardless of any agreements or concessions, Hanoi had no intention of abandoning the country or its Laotian communist allies.
The North Vietnamese established the Ho Chi Minh Trail in the southeast of Laos and paralleling the Vietnamese border. The Trail was designed for North Vietnamese troops and supplies to infiltrate the Republic of Vietnam and to aid the National Liberation Front.
The North Vietnamese had a sizable military effort in northern Laos, while sponsoring and maintaining an indigenous communist rebellion, the Pathet Lao, to put pressure on the Royal Lao Government.

The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), to disrupt these operations in northern Laos without direct military involvement, responded by training a guerrilla force of some thirty thousand Laotian hill tribesmen, mostly local Hmong tribesmen along with the Mien and Khmu, led by Royal Lao Army General Vang Pao, a Hmong military leader. This army, supported by the CIA proprietary airline Air America, Thailand, the Royal Lao Air Force, and a covert air operation directed by the United States ambassador to Laos, fought the People's Army of Vietnam, the National Liberation Front (NLF), and their Pathet Lao allies to a seesaw stalemate, greatly aiding U.S. interests in the war in Vietnam.
Laotian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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I think Indonesia should joint the party if Laos can offer good situation to start a business :) And Indonesia company's need to secure more natural resources for their ever growing industries back home :)
Actually it is good for Laos. The more investments she receives, the better it is for the people and ASEAN as a whole.
 
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