Vietnam SU-30 locked by J-10, 10 times

[lawxx]

Vietnam SU - 30 by J - 10 Lock 10 times
News from: China's large military forum insider "pupu", this person is very well-informed and reliable news, has revealed a large number of messages.
News from: China's large military forum insider "pupu", this person is very well-informed and reliable news, has revealed a large number of messages.
According to him: Vietnam June 13 exercises, j-10 in the South Vietnamese Air Force over the lock, "Thang Long" division of a SU-30 four-plane formation in Viet Nam can not find the J-10's case, J -10 with the fire control radar to lock them a dozen times, each frame is locked s-30 at least twice. At the same time, also cut more aircraft formation with the ground command center of the radio communications, and forcibly inserted into the communication channel, and more pilots on the good-neighborly friendly relations with the Chinese started a warm and amicable discussion.

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"Pupu" the contents of the original words:

就是一个星期前越军升龙师的那几架悲催的苏-30被空2师的歼-10“大乱奸”那次？不好意思，连续被我们的飞机锁定十几次，搞到人家越南飞行员几乎丧失了信心，我看不出这叫“叫板”？叫她妈的越南式叫春还差不多！

嘿嘿！不用到处打听，去新华社军分社随便找个干活的问一下，他们的记者刚刚结束对空2S的专访。

而且我还可以提醒一下，从当年参加利剑-10行动，再到2008年9月以后，广空每隔一段时间就会组织由11、10等主战机型组成的战役巡航机群在空中加油机和电子战飞机的支援下到西沙和南沙附近转悠，越南空军的什么升龙、九龙师连他妈个影子都不敢现！

军分社没关系的，空2师没人的也不打紧，有关系的去找本《广州军区空军历史回眸》好好看看。

我还可以告诉你们一个我刚刚得到的消息，越南猪猡们这次找到俄武公司，要求提升其苏系战斗机和俄制防空系统的电子对抗能力，使之能够抗击中国空军的电子战，俄方给他们开出了一个天文数字，越南人现在又打算去找阿三帮忙了。

这里就说一句，就现在中国空军的电子战能力和战术打击能力，就是俄罗斯空军自己都跟不上，还帮他妈越南搞？！至于阿三……哼！

本BKC虽然一直崇拜BKC，但是在这些事情上，想不HKC都难！

空军组织大机群远赴西沙和南沙巡航，CCTV都不知道报过多少次了，也就你这种人视而不见。至于什么隔三差五锁定越南军机，你倒是把我这话给找出来！自己心态阴暗，看到点阳光自然受不鸟，这也是人之常情。告诉你，我们的机群过西沙、南沙的时候是不可能锁定越南军机的，因为他们的飞机根本就不敢过来！

至于用渔船和海监收拾越南人，那是斗争方式和方法！既然日本人可以用海上保安厅来拦截我们去钓鱼岛的船只，我们为什么不可以动用准军事力量？在南沙的争夺斗争上，我们是差了一步，但那并不表示我们今天就会无动于衷。还可以告诉你，我们的海监和渔政之所以敢在那里招摇，就是因为不远处有我们海军的军舰保驾护航。

至于空2师近日锁定越军的苏-30，我敢在这里放这个消息出来，没有把握的话我是不会说的！

"""Pupu" the last paragraph of the original meaning of words is:the SU-30 is a continuous J-10 lock.Vietnam combat pilot almost lost confidence. Vietnam to seek Russian help to enhance the SU-30's electronic warfare capability. But Russia out of the astronomical prices, Vietnam can not accept this price, so the Vietnamese now call India for help.,

就在越南搞演习的那几天（前后脚的关系），空二师的歼10在南海上空轮奸了越南空军“升龙”师的一个SU30四机编队，在越方根本无法发现的歼10的情况下，用火控雷达把他们锁定了十几次，每架越机至少被锁定两次。与此同时，还切断了越机编队与地面指挥中心的无线电通讯，并强行插入其通讯频道、与越机飞行员就中越睦邻友好关系问题展开了热烈而和睦的探讨。


转载本文是出于传递更多信息之目的，并不意味着赞同其观点或证实其描述。


为了证实此消息的来源，本人浏览了包括中华，网易，飞扬，超大，网天，美言，天涯等等很多论坛。现在可以肯定这是一条真实消息，出处分别来自几个在军坛公认比较权威的大佬。


其中超大和飞扬的双料贵宾PUPU大大在一次回复中是这么说的


“叫板？！你说的莫非就是一个星期前越军升龙师的那几架悲催的苏-30被空2师的歼-10“大乱奸”那次？不好意思，连续被我们的飞机锁定十几次，搞到人家越南飞行员几乎丧失了信心，我看不出这叫“叫板”？叫她妈的越南式叫春还差不多！”


而网天资深大大北京老花猫是这么说的：


南海打不打，其实早就明确了的，该打的时候一点不手软，打就打个彻底。你们要说了，你老花猫何以如此言语，记得去年有三大舰队齐聚南海专打导弹的事不，已经给了结论了。这个就不要再争吵不休息喽啊。


问题是，现在出现的这个局势，让人看不过，似有非打不可的劲头，伙计们义愤填膺哟。


好，俺来演绎一下，只供参考。


在南海，我们真的没的打，你打谁？周边谁都经不住解放军的密集打的战术。真的，真找不出一个梗着脖子跟你扛的主。没有滴。越南？它成吗？菲律宾？它成吗？还有其他，没有对手滴。


你要问了，那打谁？和如何解决这个问题、


好，俺告诉你，背后有超在撑着。所以，小妖们自然要闹。这个闹早就有了，我们一直在等，这个等不是等武器，而是等你明白了。可它们非不明白，非要闹。


好办!


中国人玩游戏是世界上独一份，打小就会玩。南海好玩的狠，恐怕快要玩了。


比如，解放军火了，非要玩一下，那可是真玩滴，不管你多大或多小，玩就玩到底滴。某超不是撑腰吗？好啊，解放军就打腰，不打撑着的，哈哈。恐怕撑腰的比谁都难受滴。


我说的意思，仁义尽至。能做到这一点，就是我对南海有充分的把握，给你无数个机会，你还是不醒悟。那时，就真的开火了，肯定是照俺说的，八九不离十，玩的非常好。撑腰的主儿最难受，打也不是，不打也不是。哈哈，伙计们别急哟。


航母的题较大，俺归纳的说：一是中国造不造航母，这个问题已经不是问题了；二是正在改造的在大连的“瓦良格”号，是否作为作战用途，这个问题其实已经明确了，它只是我们为继续建造我们自己的东东，积累经验和训练用。必要时，如战争已起，训练舰也同样具备战斗性能。不知我的话说的明白不，呵呵。三是我们是不是正在造我们自己的东东，回答是肯定的，也是明确的。海军在等，在等这个新的东东早些出来，人才都已经储备好了。四是你不要听外媒说三道四，只要坚信我们能够，就行了。


这个帖子里活捉大大回复是这么说的：


这次越南人进京，很多方面在解读，试图解读而且乐于把方向搞复杂，呵呵


没那么复杂，说白点，就是心底不踏实了，自己也拿不准了。主动的过来寻求沟通，也想当面亲耳听听我们的态度，继而寻一个保证


虽然他们国内有阻力，但让他彻底认怂只是时间问题，至于越南人自己怎么解释他们真正的国家利益，那是他们的事，是否把国家带入战争就是符合国家利益，因为我们确实是准备好了，不是政治上的姿态，是真的准备好了，呵呵


如越南人般的狼子野心，骄横跋扈，不给他点痛它是认不清自我的，没有教训他是不会思索的


希望它这次的战栗会维持久一点，所谓文人政治或精英政治对小国不是一般的不适合，太过浪漫，


他们军方应该明白


试了吧？明白了吧？还想试试吗？呵呵


这次知道了，以前自认为差距很大，但还不是无解，这次看看，差距不是很大，而是云泥的差别，希望给他们警醒


呵呵，该敲打的敲打了，很多那是你看不见的


它们心里自己明白，这仗要打自己是个什么水平，还差得远


通过一些“实战化”的沟通告诉它们，一无还手之力是个什么滋味


有些动作就是明白的告诉它们，真动手它们自认为具有实际参考作战能力和最自信的某两样装备打起来狗P不是，呵呵


而且所谓的战备通信和备份，还不如没有


全当影子消息，只是有的当事者自己明白，大家个人理解吧


另外之前在美言他的专贴里还有这么一段话：


把永固点楔进去，然后用这些点的半径增益去挤压，以点带面断掉对方的线，然后考虑全面清除对方的局域作业，再清出若干条以我为主的清洁水道，这个过程要很细致，跟剥离肿瘤的手术一样


后面的军方将会是永远笼罩在它们头上挥之不去的阴影，可以说，这次军方动手动的很巧妙，很隐晦，但效果很明显，震慑是全面的


网天的布衣大大在点评时是这么说的：


去年“百机闹南海”，预警机，电子机，加油机那体系一摆，猴子们直接瞎菜了！眼睛也看不见，耳朵也听不见，空气中都冒火花，猴子们是白毛都直了，真吓坏了。所以才有越南猴子倾家荡产紧急的购买“不对称装备”，可“不对称装备”就不需要“不对称体系”了？训练维护都折腾死它们...........


越是高科技越是靠体系，猴子们可以买到几件破装备，体系化是它支撑的起的么？伊拉克，南联盟的米格29，面对对手的体系化作战，还不都成了“死火鸡”了。


美言夜聊贴的大聋瞎大大的点评是这样的：


已经打完了··我们获胜··猴子为什么怂了？？那是我们已经敲打过他了··不过是用另一种方式，在桌子底下进行的！


一步步来··猴子鬼灵的，要敲打服了，再上链子圈养····


最后久未出现的资深人士汉风大大在给网友的回复中是这样说的：


电磁领域的


四维空间里的战争，和平？从来没有绝对意义上的和平，解放军天天都在打仗。


这些天在南海我们已经让它认识到了什么是实力和时代的差距……对猴子军方心理冲击很大。事情还没完，刀还是举着的……


猴子的中央委员来华是摸我们的底来了，被某超卖了还耍小聪明。如果的话，适度的惩罚有时是必要的.

 

[Viva_Viet]

what the hell happened with those Su 30. Russia's tech is not good enough ?? Oki, VNAF officer is in big trouble now if it true.They've bought the wrong craft.

btw: I posted the incident in VN forum already, but no one known yet .

 

[lawxx]

what the hell happened with those Su 30. Russia's tech is not good enough ?? Oki, VNAF officer is in big trouble now if it true.They've bought the wrong craft.

btw: I posted the incident in VN forum already, but no one known yet .

Always better to buy someone else's weapons of their own making weapons, only their weapons in order to develop a strong state.

 

[lawxx]

what the hell happened with those Su 30. Russia's tech is not good enough ?? Oki, VNAF officer is in big trouble now if it true.They've bought the wrong craft.

btw: I posted the incident in VN forum already, but no one known yet .

It at least shows that SU-30is not good J-10

 

[Viva_Viet]

Always better to buy someone else create their own weapons, only you can develop a strong country.

VN never can create a air craft in at least 20 year ahead.So, we've better use S-30 and AAA system as the main coutermeasure system.That our strong point bro

 

[lawxx]

VN never can create a air craft in at least 20 year ahead.So, we've better use S-30 and AAA system as the main coutermeasure system.That our strong point bro

The amount of your SU-30 is the J-10 fire control radar locked up 10 times. And SU-30 did not find J-10
So as themselves to buy weapons never made ​​weapons

 

[SQ8]

I believe the Chinese are using this tete-a-tete as an opportunity to test all their newer gadgets,systems and perhaps tactics operationally.

 

[lawxx]

"Pupu" the last paragraph of the original meaning of words is: Vietnam SU-30 by the Chinese J-10 after the lock several times. Vietnam to help them improve the Russian electronic warfare capabilities, but Russia out of the astronomical prices, so now in India to help Vietnam improve,

 

[lawxx]

I believe the Chinese are using this tete-a-tete as an opportunity to test all their newer gadgets,systems and perhaps tactics operationally.

He is for Vietnam to buy Russian SU-30, but the SU-30 is a continuous J-10 lock. Vietnam to seek Russian help to enhance the SU-30's electronic warfare capability. But Russia out of the astronomical prices, Vietnam can not accept this price, so the Vietnamese now call India for help.

 

[Viva_Viet]

He is for Vietnam to buy Russian SU-30, but the SU-30 is a continuous J-10 lock. Vietnam to seek Russian help to enhance the SU-30's electronic warfare capability. But Russia out of the astronomical prices, Vietnam can not accept this price, so the Vietnamese now call India for help.

That why, in our defence tactic, they discuss mainly on S-300, Radar and AAA system. You have air superiority, but S-300 and AAA system will be the hardest opponent to you. VNAF is used for some Kamikaze mission only, same as during VN war

 

[Zabaniyah]

what the hell happened with those Su 30. Russia's tech is not good enough ?? Oki, VNAF officer is in big trouble now if it true.They've bought the wrong craft.

btw: I posted the incident in VN forum already, but no one known yet .

Russian exports are usually the downgraded versions. So, they may not be as good the Russians themselves use.

You want something more after purchase, they ask for a lot of money. I suppose China already passed that difficult stage. India already produces its own SU-30s.

My country had to ask Germany to help upgrade its MIG-29 fleet.

S-300 and other Russian SAMs are pretty good though.

 

[SQ8]

Well..India would most likely offer EW upgrades to the Su-30's.
The reason why the Chinese were successful against the VN Su-30's is their own exp with the aircraft and electronics fit.
If the EW suite of the MKI is transplanted into the VN Su-30's.. the results may not be the same again.

 

[rcrmj]

lol, the pilot reports saying vietnam Su-30 had been locked on by Chinese J-10 more than 10 times, yet they didnt see any thing on their radar`lol

vn pilots must feel humiliated, they must thought it could not be happening as they believed they bought one of most advanced weapons``

i think vietcon will start to realise modern warfare is way out of their 70's mindset. its called information and electronic centric warfare`

 

[lawxx]

Well..India would most likely offer EW upgrades to the Su-30's.
The reason why the Chinese were successful against the VN Su-30's is their own exp with the aircraft and electronics fit.
If the EW suite of the MKI is transplanted into the VN Su-30's.. the results may not be the same again.

But according to "pupu" saying: Chinese Air Force electronic warfare capabilities and tactical strike capability, that is, the Russian Air Force can not keep up. Not to mention India. India to help the Vietnamese find it completely useless.

 

[ramu]

The avionics of Su-30 MKI is tailor made for India and to some extent developed by Indians for specific requirements. Hope this exeprience India has with Israel and Russia should be useful to Vietnam