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Vietnam's troubled economy: Steady as she staggers | The Economist


Steady as she staggers

Rulers pass up the chance to deal with mounting economic problems
Vietnam's troubled economy

Jan 6th 2011 | HANOI | from PRINT EDITION

ALL too frequently Vietnam’s capital is plagued by power blackouts. Hotel lifts get stuck, and even the espresso machines in Hanoi’s Parisian-style cafés splutter to a halt. Many thought this fast-developing country had left such symptoms behind. Yet the economy is now straining, and often failing, to keep up with the ambitious growth targets set by Vietnam’s Communist bosses. Inflation is rising; the budget is in deficit; the currency is falling; and people are rushing to turn their savings into dollars or gold.

Decisive action is called for, but is unlikely to come from the Communist Party’s showcase congress, its 11th, later this month. As well as a misfiring economy, the list of problems includes official corruption, unpopular land grabs, environmental damage and, as ever, a lack of political transparency. Little change in policy is expected, nor even in personnel, apart from a polite game of musical chairs at the very top. Earlier hopes that a cohort of reform-minded apparatchiks might replace an older, more staid generation have now been disappointed.

Even the prime minister, Nguyen Tan Dung, may stay in office, after speculation that he would take the rap for the biggest mishap, the collapse of Vinashin, the giant state-owned shipbuilder. Last year the sprawling empire imploded with debts of $4.5 billion. In December Vinashin defaulted on a loan to international creditors and it has been forced to go cap in hand to the government to pay its wage bill.

To critics of Vietnam’s policies, the collapse of Vinashin was a vivid illustration of the perils of relying on state-owned enterprises (SOEs) to provide the impetus for economic growth and modernisation. Yet according to congress documents which have already been agreed upon, the SOEs will continue to play the economy’s “leading role”, as they always have done. One expert on Vietnam, David Koh of the Institute of South-East Asian Studies in Singapore, says that, away from the party congress, the government has been taking some action. It recently issued directives that put new restrictions on how SOEs are allowed to operate, particularly in terms of how much they may diversify away from their core businesses. But commerce in Vietnam is highly bureaucratic. It will take the state enterprises a long time to respond to these directives, if indeed they ever do. Meanwhile, who is to say that the enterprises are in the right business to start with?

Such conservatism will make investors fret. The problems of the SOEs explain much of Vietnam’s weakening macroeconomic outlook. If the government does not take the SOEs by the scruff of the neck, it will be able to do little else. The SOEs need to be set free, but for that the Communists would have to give up political control of the economy. That is out of the question. So these corrupt and inefficient behemoths continue to gobble up and then squander a good share of the foreign investment and export earnings that come into the country. Meanwhile, the government is blowing its budget. The fiscal deficit rose to 7.4% of GDP last year, breaching the target of 6.2%.

The country now also runs big trade and current-account deficits, as it relies too heavily on exporting low-value stuff like processed seafood and rice. These deficits, added to inflation, which rose to 11.8% last year, have put the currency under pressure. Three times in the past 14 months the government has been forced to devalue, hence the rush among Vietnamese to hoard dollars and gold as they lose faith in the dong. The government has pledged to improve all these gloomy figures. Yet chasing growth rates of 7% a year or more without commensurate structural change will only generate more of them.
 
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Vietnam would be far better off as a colony of China, maybe in 20 years when we're rich enough to absorb the burden imposed by Vietnam.
 
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Vietnam would be far better off as a colony of China, maybe in 20 years when we're rich enough to absorb the burden imposed by Vietnam.

agreed. :tup:

It shall be the 5th Chinese domination and this time we won't let anything happen to Vietnam. We were unable to defend them when the French came but now as we are back on our feet we are ready to realize the Mandate of Heaven.
:china:

"Long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been"
-Luo Guanzhong

Little brother Vietnam will soon join with Big brother, as a family never truly separates in perpetual.
 
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I'm quite amused by this quote from FT

“We have fundamental advantages but great challenges and difficulties ahead,” said Mr Trong as he reiterated the government’s ambition to turn Vietnam into a modern, industrialised country by 2020.


FT.com / Asia-Pacific - Vietnam set to shun major economic reforms

Comparing this to the stated goal of the Chinese government of China becoming a basically modern country by 2050. I have to say the Vietnamese government is very confident indeed.

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agreed. :tup:

it shall be the 5th Chinese domination and this time we won't let anything happen to our Vietnam.

Are you guys mad?
 
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China has no interest in domination Vietnam. And China is ready to isolate Vietnam.

China's Indochina High Speed Rail Plan. It will together with Laos and Cambodia and Thailand and Malaysia and Singapore. We will work together to develop the economy.

And, Where is the Vietnam?

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agreed. :tup:

It shall be the 5th Chinese domination and this time we won't let anything happen to Vietnam. We were unable to defend them when the French came but now as we are back on our feet we are ready to realize the Mandate of Heaven.
:china:

"Long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been"
-Luo Guanzhong

Little brother Vietnam will soon join with Big brother, as a family never truly separates in perpetual.

china has it's own people to worry about first.


the smartest thing to do would be to wait for their economy to collapse and buy up everything, government and all. turning vietnam into a virtual vessel state
 
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only internet chineses warriors would be brave enough to talk smack about vietnamese on the internet.

is it just me or every chinaman on the internet is straight up hard core bad azz

but yet every chinaman on the street is nerdy, passive, and getting bullied by some white boy?
 
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is it just me or every chinaman on the internet is straight up hard core bad azz

but yet every chinaman on the street is nerdy, passive, and getting bullied by some white boy?

As a Japanese person (apparently)... you should know that the phrase "Chinaman" (支那人) is a racist slur.

Since of course, it is you guys that use it the most. I believe you pronounce it as "Shinajin".

Chinaman (term) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Shina (word) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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only internet chineses warriors would be brave enough to talk smack about vietnamese on the internet.

is it just me or every chinaman on the internet is straight up hard core bad azz

but yet every chinaman on the street is nerdy, passive, and getting bullied by some white boy?

Japan is tough. Real tough. Watch out for those samurai swords.

Three Savage Black American Soldiers Rape 12-Year Old Japanese Girl, 1995 | Vatican Assassins

"US forces cause outrage in Okinawa - again" | Japan -- Business People Technology | www.japaninc.com

1995 Okinawa rape incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

U.S. Soldiers Sought in Alleged Japan Rape - ABC News

Marine Accused Of Raping Japanese Girl - CBS News

I'm amused, you think Vietnamese are tough, but they're only tough to their women, because Vietnamese men can only beat their women, and no one else.

(3/31/2005) Vietnamese Girls Sold To Chinese Men For "Instant Marriages"

Domestic Abuse in Vietnamese Households - NAM

FOCUS ON VIETNAM: Poverty in the midst of run-away growth

SDC - Domestic violence in Vietnam

Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery - Vietnam

Vietnam's global human trafficking an inhuman epidemic - SFGate
 
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some Chinese members are very naive and childish from their comments in this thread!:hitwall::hitwall:
 
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Also restore the Ryukyu to sovereignty. MUAHAHAHA
The transfer by the US to the Japan not legal.

agreed. :tup:

It shall be the 5th Chinese domination and this time we won't let anything happen to Vietnam. We were unable to defend them when the French came but now as we are back on our feet we are ready to realize the Mandate of Heaven.
:china:

"Long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been"
-Luo Guanzhong

Little brother Vietnam will soon join with Big brother, as a family never truly separates in perpetual.
 
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agreed. :tup:

It shall be the 5th Chinese domination and this time we won't let anything happen to Vietnam. We were unable to defend them when the French came but now as we are back on our feet we are ready to realize the Mandate of Heaven.
:china:

"Long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been"
-Luo Guanzhong

Little brother Vietnam will soon join with Big brother, as a family never truly separates in perpetual.

This is the same guy who said India should demilitarize so that China and Pakistan can protect us.
 
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only internet chineses warriors would be brave enough to talk smack about vietnamese on the internet.

is it just me or every chinaman on the internet is straight up hard core bad azz

but yet every chinaman on the street is nerdy, passive, and getting bullied by some white boy?

internet-tough-guy-magazine.gif


Yeea!
 
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