Vietnam reclaiming land in South China Sea: Report

[liubang]

During a meeting with charge d’affaires ad interim Li Zhimin of the Chinese Embassy in Vietnam on 15 June 1956, Vice Foreign Minister of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam Ung Van Khiem solemnly stated that, “according to Vietnamese data, the Xisha Islands and Nansha Islands are historically part of Chinese territory.”

Le Loc, Acting Director of the Asian Department of the Vietnamese Foreign Ministry, who was present, specifically cited Vietnamese data and pointed out that, “judging from history, these islands were already part of China at the time of the Song Dynasty.“

You basically copy and paste from this site The Operation of the HYSY 981 Drilling Rig: Vietnam's Provocation and China's Position

This is a chinese government website (a very bias source). The particular passage that you lift off the website without citing. Even in that article, there is no source for it. It maybe true. It maybe not. But this fall under he said this, she said that. Who is this Le Loc. I don't know. Do you know? And this particular event, what is the documentation? What is the proof that he said this? Primary source? An article dated back to 6/15/56??? Where, I don't see one? Was it voice recorded??

I don't really care for this debate, so I won't be further replying to this. But come on, try a bit harder than copy and paste. At least, do some work and provide the primary source.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

You basically copy and paste from this site The Operation of the HYSY 981 Drilling Rig: Vietnam's Provocation and China's Position

This is a chinese government website (a very bias source). The particular passage that you lift off the website without citing. Even in that article, there is no source for it. It maybe true. It maybe not. But this fall under he said this, she said that. Who is this Le Loc. I don't know. Do you know? And this particular event, what is the documentation? What is the proof that he said this? Primary source? An article dated back to 6/15/56??? Where, I don't see one? Was it voice recorded??

I don't really care for this debate, so I won't be further replying to this. But come on, try a bit harder than copy and paste. At least, do some work and provide the primary source.

I am not surprised to see you calling the Chinese govt bluffing，and I also admitted in previous post that I am not able to provide the concrete proof. What can you expect me to do beyond copy and paste？I am just an ordinary person sometimes make fun of people on the internet

Well like I said before，it‘s a card hasn’t been played，words are as good as nothing without strength to back it up.
As far as I can tell, China is playing the "Speak softly and carry a big stick" game while slowly forcing Vietnam into a corner Bluffing and making empty threats are usually not our style...

 

[liubang]

I got nothing but conjectures.

Okay, thank you for wasting my time.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Okay, thank you for wasting my time.

My pleasure

 

[biendong]

I am not surprised to see you calling the Chinese govt bluffing，and I also admitted in previous post that I am not able to provide the concrete proof. What can you expect me to do beyond copy and paste？I am just an ordinary person sometimes make fun of people on the internet

Well like I said before，it‘s a card hasn’t been played，words are as good as nothing without strength to back it up.
As far as I can tell, China is playing the "Speak softly and carry a big stick" game while slowly forcing Vietnam into a corner Bluffing and making empty threats are usually not our style...

we know well intention of China, china can't step by step swallow islands of Vietnam. The game is going on.

Vietnam protests China’s reef expansion in Truong Sa

Vietnam once again declares that the country has sufficient legal and historical evidence to affirm its sovereignty over the Hoang Sa (Paracel) and Truong Sa (Spratly) archipelagos, said Foreign Ministry spokesman Le Hai Binh on April 16.

His statement was in reply to reporters’ queries about Vietnam’s response to the April 9 speech by Chinese Foreign Ministry’s spokesperson Hua Chunying about the expansion of underground reefs in Truong Sa.

On this issue, he said Vietnam has conducted a number of interventions, including high-level exchanges with China.

Each construction and expansion project by foreigners on reef islands in Hoang Sa and Truong Sa that is not explicitly permitted by the Government of Vietnam is illegal and invalid, he stated.

Vietnam firmly opposes the above actions and has asked parties concerned to fully abide by the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the East Sea and make practical contributions to maintaining peace and stability in the East Sea, he added.

VNA

 

[Black Stone]

I am sorry to say that at the end of the day...there is NOTHING Vietnam can do about it.

 

[biendong]

I am sorry to say that at the end of the day...there is NOTHING Vietnam can do about it.

we have to do more than its. The Reefs are under control by us, we should do necessary reclaimations on this.

 

[Tom99]

we have to do more than its. The Reefs are under control by us, we should do necessary reclaimations on this.

Looking at the above photo, if anything else, China needs to speed up its assertions in SCS to catch up to other claimants.

 

[biendong]

Looking at the above photo, if anything else, China needs to speed up its assertions in SCS to catch up to other claimants.

Islands is under official administration of Annam Empire from long time ago. We did not have troubles with China and others in the past.

China robbed Islands and reefs of Viet by force recently.

 

[Soryu]

OK that‘s a relieve. I thought otherwise


Let's not get into that debate，innocent lives loss in wars is inevitable. I heard at that time its almost impossible to tell a vietnamese civilian from a soldier，they are all dangerous fighters who will fight to their death. Spare a “civilian” and risk being shot in the back？I think you know your countrymen better than me. Unless you accuse the PLA committed genocide and deliberately targeted innocent children，I don’t think that‘s relevant to my concern, maybe another topic for another thread

LOL, you're let China propaganda fool you so easy. But of course, you're Chinese.

I bet most story you heard about how dangerous Vietnamese civilians from this "Ghost Blows Out the Light" !?
If you believe in that, so you should believe Khmer-rough soldiers were peaceful, innocence, not kill any people
You should believe in thousands yy fiction on China net about how Chinese will conquer this world and many other worlds.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

LOL, you're let China propaganda fool you so easy. But of course, you're Chinese.

I bet most story you heard about how dangerous Vietnamese civilians from this "Ghost Blows Out the Light" !?
If you believe in that, so you should believe Khmer-rough soldiers were peaceful, innocence, not kill any people
You should believe in thousands yy fiction on China net about how Chinese will conquer this world and many other worlds.

If there is propaganda to believe，it‘s the millions of Hollywood movies on Vietnam war，we learn from the best

We did everything the Americans taught us to deel with the viets, well,except the Agent orange part. So you should be grateful.

 

[Soryu]

If there is propaganda to believe，it‘s the millions of Hollywood movies on Vietnam war，we learn from the best

We did everything the Americans taught us to deel with the viets, well,except the Agent orange part. So you should be grateful.

Well, you chinese always like that, ignore real issue, change subject, ...
So where're you heard about that shjt you thought real !?

Agent orange !? LOL, are you saying that China spare us that thing !? Is that make China become good and right !?

LOL, Japanese did not use agent orange on you, so I guess everything that they did to Chinese was good and right.
You should be grateful and bow you head down to the ground to Japanese, to thank them what they did to you.

 

[fadine]

Well, you chinese always like that, ignore real issue, change subject, ...
So where're you heard about that shjt you thought real !?

Agent orange !? LOL, are you saying that China spare us that thing !? Is that make China become good and right !?

LOL, Japanese did not use agent orange on you, so I guess everything that they did to Chinese was good and right.
You should be grateful and bow you head down to the ground to Japanese, to thank them what they did to you.

I'm waiting here to see Chinese people thank to Japanese.