Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

[TaiShang]

VN communist chief visits Beijing only one in every ten years. Do you think he should visit Jakarta more frequently? Indonesia more important than China?

VCP chief is not the only one that travels. There are diplomatic travels all the time. Jakarta, having all the major ASEAN institutions, is a natural travel destination for every country diplomatic circles in East Asia.

 

[Viet]

VCP chief is not the only one that travels. There are diplomatic travels all the time. Jakarta, having all the major ASEAN institutions, is a natural travel destination for every country diplomatic circles in East Asia.

He is not only the chief of the party but the supreme commander of Vietnam armed forces.
Jakarta was chosen when Vietnam was not included. Jakarta just has an Asean secretariat with a rotating chairman. The decision is made on consensus among all ten ASEAN members in case you haven’t noticed. All asean summits take place every year in a new country. Meaning, Jakarta has little meaning.

ok, so why you blabbering about you're better than Indonesia at every senses, may be after 100 year you will become first world country, oh i forget you already become first world country, ALL HAIL TO ONLY SUPER POWER ON THE PLANET, "VIETNAM" @Viet

I never say Vietnam has more people than Indonesia. What you mean with superpower? I say we surpass them such as in education. Have you seen Vietnam Pisa rankings in Math and Science?
As low income country we surpassed developed countries as US and UK. The only country that achieved such feat. Ok Check Indonesia Pisa ranking! You find them at the bottom.

Embarrassing for a self declared ASEAN leader.

 

[TaiShang]

He is not only the chief of the party but the supreme commander of Vietnam armed forces.
Jakarta was chosen when Vietnam was not included. Jakarta just has an Asean secretariat with a rotating chairman. The decision is made on consensus among all ten ASEAN members in case you haven’t noticed. Meaning, Jakarta has little meaning.


I never say Vietnam has more people than Indonesia. What you mean with superpower? I say we surpass them such as in education. Have you seen Vietnam Pisa rankings?
As low income country we surpassed developed countries as US and UK. Check Indonesia Pisa ranking! You find them at the bottom.

I know how ASEAN works, but, having headquarters in Jakarta gives the city an edge over the rest. Even with rotating chairmanship and summits, Jakarta hosts more regional events than the rest. That's normal. For instance, in the CJK region, Korea tends to host more regional events for some reason even though usually each country hosts events in a rotating fashion.

 

[Viet]

I know how ASEAN works, but, having headquarters in Jakarta gives the city an edge over the rest. Even with rotating chairmanship and summits, Jakarta hosts more regional events than the rest. That's normal. For instance, in the CJK region, Korea tends to host more regional events for some reason even though usually each country hosts events in a rotating fashion.

It is a secretariat. Do you understand the meaning of it?

You mean seriously Donald Trump or Xi Jingping will pay a state visit to a secretariat?

 

[TaiShang]

It is a secretariat. Do you understand the meaning of it?

You mean seriously Donald Trump or Xi Jingping will pay a state visit to a secretariat?

And, around that secretariat, lots of supporting Track I and II institutions such as think tanks, which makes Jakarta an attractive destination for regionalism scholars.

 

[Robin Wong]

He is not only the chief of the party but the supreme commander of Vietnam armed forces.
Jakarta was chosen when Vietnam was not included. Jakarta just has an Asean secretariat with a rotating chairman. The decision is made on consensus among all ten ASEAN members in case you haven’t noticed. Meaning, Jakarta has little meaning.

LMAO get your fact straight, you dumbass.. The Secretary-General of ASEAN is appointed by the ASEAN Leaders for a non-renewable term of five years, selected from nationals of the ASEAN Member States based on alphabetical rotation. The Secretary-General of ASEAN himself gotta be always base in Jakarta during his term where the secretariat of ASEAN is located.

Click this link : https://asean.org/asean-welcomes-new-secretary-general-from-brunei-darussalam/

A top trade official and diplomat from Brunei Darussalam, Dato Paduka Lim Jock Hoi, assumes office as the 14th Secretary-General of ASEAN today.

ASEAN secretariat buildings complex in Jakarta.

The Governor of Jakarta and Secretary-General of ASEAN signed inauguration ceremony of Jakarta MRT at ASEAN station.

 

[Viet]

And, around that secretariat, lots of supporting Track I and II institutions such as think tanks, which makes Jakarta an attractive destination for regionalism scholars.

What think tanks? Decisions are made in the capitals of ten members, secretariat jobs are copying papers and so on. Ever visit a university secretariat? Have you told you are a tutor at a university?

I now seriously question your qualification!

 

[HellFireIndo]

He is not only the chief of the party but the supreme commander of Vietnam armed forces.
Jakarta was chosen when Vietnam was not included. Jakarta just has an Asean secretariat with a rotating chairman. The decision is made on consensus among all ten ASEAN members in case you haven’t noticed. All asean summits take place every year in a new country. Meaning, Jakarta has little meaning.


I never say Vietnam has more people than Indonesia. What you mean with superpower? I say we surpass them such as in education. Have you seen Vietnam Pisa rankings in Math and Science?
As low income country we surpassed developed countries as US and UK. The only country that achieved such feat. Ok Check Indonesia Pisa ranking! You find them at the bottom.

Embarrassing for a self declared ASEAN leader.

Wow, if only Vietnam was a member way before then, the secretariat must've been located in VIETNAM YAY

"I say we surpass them such as in education"

If Viet got one bullet for every remaining argument she(?) have right now, it would be just enough for her to commit suicide.

Seriously, you previously said that Vietnam surpassed Indonesia in every measure that can be thought of, including economy, industry, technology, military, infrastructures etc.... boasting this, boasting that, only to be debunked by other members, your myths and fairy tales were proven irrelevant and fake, one at a time. Even the Vinfast-the-European-designs were hilariously exposed.

But now, you only dared to claim as being better in education??

Lol, go prove that these PISA scores are relevant in any way first! where's the airplanes? where's the trains and buses exports? where's your military innovation? if you claim being sooooo much better in education, where's your kick-*** product then? why did you buy European design for your "national" car if Viets are sooo smart? Why Vietnamese poachers never learned a lesson for trespassing Indonesian EEZ and keep doing it, if they are so smart after all??? the world buy products and innovations, something with real value, not PISA scores, twat.

Now, you are running away from the question about "how Vietnam is better in everything than Indonesia" by emphasizing that Indonesia is only better due to the higher population, little twat ran away from the question, ashamed to admit the fact of the underachieving country called Vietnam.

Viet have this one source of argument left, and it's microscopic! Lol, PISA score as an absolute measurement apparently, the 270+ trawlers captured were manned by geniuses it seems.

 

[Viet]

LMAO get your fact straight, you dumbass.. The Secretary-General of ASEAN is appointed by the ASEAN Leaders for a non-renewable term of five years, selected from nationals of the ASEAN Member States based on alphabetical rotation. The Secretary-General of ASEAN himself gotta be always base in Jakarta during his term where the secretariat of ASEAN is located.

Click this link : https://asean.org/asean-welcomes-new-secretary-general-from-brunei-darussalam/

A top trade official and diplomat from Brunei Darussalam, Dato Paduka Lim Jock Hoi, assumes office as the 14th Secretary-General of ASEAN today.

ASEAN secretariat buildings complex in Jakarta.

The Governor of Jakarta and Secretary-General of ASEAN signed inauguration ceremony of Jakarta MRT at ASEAN station.

You are the dumbass!

All of your words and pics says the same what I said: it is a secretariat with a rotating chairman.

Jakarta was selected when Vietnam was not a member. Otherwise you have no chance!

 

[HellFireIndo]

Jakarta was selected when Vietnam was not a member. Otherwise you have no chance!

Just as i expected lol

Here, something that would certainly calm your heart :

Wow, if only Vietnam was a member way before then, the secretariat must've been located in VIETNAM YAY

Previously, you said that the ASEAN Secretariat being located in Jakarta doesn't matter, but then you said that it will better if Vietnam host the Secretariat instead?? you said that we won't get any chance if Vietnam bid for being the host of the Secretariat back then......but you said that every decision made must be based on the consensus of all ASEAN members, so in what way that you will absolutely win, and in what way we won't have a chance???

When the fact that Indonesia is absolutely better at diplomacy and could lobby all the founding members to support the decision to place the Secretariat in Jakarta, while Vietnam was hated by Cambodia, disliked by Laos for dragging them into the war (HCM trails and shits), had several border confrontation with Thailand, and it's like every other members doesn't want anything to do with Vietnam for all the wars and communism. So what are Vietnam advantages in this situation?

 

[Kai Liu]

You are the dumbass!

All of your words and pics says the same what I said: it is a secretariat with a rotating chairman.

Jakarta was selected when Vietnam was not a member. Otherwise you have no chance!

Come on, clown, vietnam is a piece of shit comparing to Indonesia...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ASEAN_countries_by_GDP

 

[striver44]

Why are you so stuborn @Viet ? Lol

 

[Robin Wong]

You are the dumbass!

All of your statements says the same what I said: it is a secretariat with a rotating chairman.

LMAO if you cannot read and comprehend a simple english sentence its not my fault. you probably faked your school certificates. That's why.

Jakarta was selected when Vietnam was not a member. Otherwise you have no chance!

hahaha in your dreams!! You need a reality check and a life... Wake the hell up! Vietnam was dirt poor and nobody back then, even arguably until today.

All the founding fathers chose to place ASEAN Headquarter in Indonesia due to the fact that Indonesia was FAR LARGER than any country in ASEAN, and also as a matter of fact, most militarily powerful among others. Without indonesia, ASEAN would be nothing but small regional organization, its indonesia’s that make ASEAN look big and can be compared to other big world organizations. Its population, purchasing/consumption power that make ASEAN look attractive for the world market until today.

Where is Vietnam?? You got it right.. at the bottom!

Indonesia is already joined one trillion dollar club and upper middle class, meanwhile Vietnam is still stuck at the bottom...When Indonesia raises an issue or has a strong view on an issue raised, it is noticed and accepted. It gives Indonesia a clear voice on a range of international issues, in a forum that is widely accepted and is listened to by the worlds major powers thats so-called G20.

Oh shoot.. Why cant I see Vietnam flag there? This should've been a mistake.

 

[Viet]

LMAO if you cannot read and comprehend a simple english sentence its not my fault. you probably faked your school certificates. That's why.

hahaha in your dreams!! You need a reality check and a life... Wake the hell up! Vietnam was dirt poor and nobody back then, even arguably until today.

All the founding fathers chose to place ASEAN Headquarter in Indonesia due to the fact that Indonesia was FAR LARGER than any country in ASEAN, and also as a matter of fact, most militarily powerful among others. Without indonesia, ASEAN would be nothing but small regional organization, its indonesia’s that make ASEAN look big and can be compared to other big world organizations. Its population, purchasing/consumption power that make ASEAN look attractive for the world market until today.

Where is Vietnam?? You got it right.. at the bottom!

Indonesia is already joined one trillion dollar club and upper middle class, meanwhile Vietnam is still stuck at the bottom...When Indonesia raises an issue or has a strong view on an issue raised, it is noticed and accepted. It gives Indonesia a clear voice on a range of international issues, in a forum that is widely accepted and is listened to by the worlds major powers thats so-called G20.

Oh shoot.. Why cant I see Vietnam flag there? This should've been a mistake.

G20 is a worthless Club.
But ok fyi: Vietnam was invited to G20 regularly, in Hamburg, in Japan this year. even G7 meeting.

Arrival to G20 meeting in Germany

To G7 summit in Canada

 

[Robin Wong]

G20 is a worthless Club.
But ok fyi: Vietnam was invited to G20 regularly, in Hamburg, in Japan this year. even G7 meeting.

Arrival to G20 meeting in Germany

To G7 summit in Canada

LMAO your idiocy never ceases to amaze me..

The G20 is a combination of the largest countries by GDP and trade AND by regional power. It is made up of 19 countries and the European Union (EU)... By being one of members, you certainly get an opportunity to be heard and it gives your policy makers to get first hand on a range of international issues... Not to mention, you also have an opportunity to meet some other state leaders over bilateral meeting and sign some MOUs worth billion dollars during the summit.

As for Vietnam, your president was invited into the summit as nothing but only as one of the guests since every year the country which holds the G20 presidency have to invite diferent countries to attend at its own discretion. These guests practically have no say whatsoever but they are still allowed in the door with a wink and a nod during the summit. So, it may be useless for you, not for G20 members.