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Vietnam May Request F-16s, P-3 Orions From US

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TAIPEI, Taiwan — With the lifting of the US arms embargo to Vietnam, a US defense industry source indicates Hanoi is seeking to improve its air defense and maritime security capabilities with the procurement of F-16 fighter aircraft from the US Pentagon’s excess defense articles (EDA) program and refurbished P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft, armed with torpedoes.

The source also said Vietnam could seek US-made UAVs for maritime intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) missions.

Torpedoes were banned under the embargo, but now the Vietnamese want the same P-3 program the US sold to Taiwan, the source said. On the F-16 EDA, they want the same deal the Obama administration gave Indonesia.

Defense News has also acquired an unclassified defense industry briefing prepared by the US Pacific Command. According to the report, “Socialist Republic of Vietnam — Country Security Cooperation Plan,” the US Embassy in Hanoi “possesses a robust security cooperating program operating in accordance with US policy goals and interests to promote integration and access focused on key areas within the Vietnamese security architecture.”

These include achieving air and maritime domain awareness, providing maritime security against traditional and nontraditional security threats, delivering all-hazards response and support to civil authorities, participating in regional contingency response and international peacekeeping operations, and addressing the impact of Vietnam War legacy issues on civil society.

“The SCO [Security Cooperation Organization] is manned and capable of providing in-country support and coordination for programs to expand US defense article procurement ... and assist Vietnam in developing and sustaining professional armed forces,” the report said.

According to the report, Vietnam’s strategic outlook involves the survival of the Communist Party by maintaining sovereignty and independence, achieving freedom of maneuver, and ensuring sovereignty over its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) and unfettered access to natural resources and the global economic market.

China has been testing Vietnam’s EEZ claims with incursions by maritime patrol vessels, aggressive commercial fishing vessels and the stationing of an oil drilling test platform in 2014, dubbed the Haiyang Shiyou 981 standoff.

Vietnam’s goals, according to the report, are to enhance its presence in the South China Sea with upgrades for submarine warfare, maritime air-ground interdiction, anti-surface warfare (ASUW), anti-submarine warfare (ASW), maritime domain awareness (MDA), early warning, and command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (C4ISR).

In the past, Vietnam has procured defense articles from sources within the former Soviet Union and former East Bloc nations, but it has “begun reaching out to the European Union, Israel, and others.”

On radar issues, the Vietnamese are procuring a high-frequency surface wave radar from the US for $30 million, according to the report. This is part of their overall effort to improve early warning and ISR.

The report breaks down each service requirement.

For the Army, it must transition from a territorial defense structure, retain a central role as defender of national sovereignty and improve capacity to respond to natural disasters.

The Air Force must improve early warning and airborne ISR, enhance maritime interdiction, develop anti-access/area-denial capabilities, and revamp pilot training.

The Navy must improve MDA, electronic countermeasures/electronic counter-countermeasures, electronic intelligence, expand maritime law enforcement capabilities, develop a naval aviation arm, and enhance ASW and ASUW.

The US Embassy’s primary cooperation vision is to promote the United States as a “reliable partner to address complex, forward looking security issues.” It also hopes to establish military relationships outside the traditional theater support command that include defense sales, cross-servicing, voyage repairs, and science and technology cooperation.

The report said that priorities include the “establishment” of sustainable lines of effort (LOE) and “synchronize” operations, actions and activities (OAA); instill a programmatic, regularized approach to security cooperation; and focus on nontraditional security approaches and humanitarian activities.

According to Carl Thayer, emeritus professor at the Australian Defence Force Academy, big-ticket sales may be a long way off: “Vietnam does not have the defense budget for that. It is fully committed to integrating six advanced Kilo-class submarines into its fleet,” and all maintenance, repair and logistics network and workforce are geared to work with Soviet/Russian technology.

Another hurdle for Vietnam is that Hanoi will continue to face the same restrictions that all other countries face when trying to procure US arms, Thayer said, including human rights issues and the authoritarian nature of the government in power.

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...nam-may-request-f-16s-p-3-orions-us/84904786/
 
well this is getting interesting.

they should look into acquiring a bunch of our mothballed S-3B Vikings to go along with the P-3 Orions.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/south-korea-moves-forward-with-plan-to-revive-the-s-3-v-1729544135

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Wow! This is very good news for the American military-industrial complexes.

Hope that America can sell a lot more of its leftover or excess military equipment to Vietnam.
 
Well, Vietnam needs around 750 million USD if they want our package (24 F-16 C/D Block 52 ID and 28 engine). Actually the package is initiated by USA in our case. Vietnamese F 16 will be much superior than Thailand F 16 if the deal is reached. It is the most agile F 16 ever built ( along with block 15) since no additional oil tank on the airframe but with the upgrade it will be in par with Block 52.



http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/indonesia-regeneration-and-upgrade-f-16cd-block-25-aircraft

WASHINGTON, Nov. 17, 2011 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress Nov. 16 of a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Indonesia for the regeneration and upgrade of 24 F-16C/D Block 25 aircraft and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an estimated cost of $750 million.

The Government of Indonesia has requested a sale for the regeneration and upgrade of 24 F-16C/D Block 25 aircraft and 28 F100-PW-200 or F100-PW-220E engines being granted as Excess Defense Articles. The upgrade includes the following major systems and components: LAU-129A/A Launchers, ALR-69 Radar Warning Receivers, ARC-164/186 Radios, Expanded Enhanced Fire Control (EEFC) or Commercial Fire Control, or Modular Mission Computers, ALQ-213 Electronic Warfare Management Systems, ALE-47 Countermeasures Dispenser Systems, Cartridge Actuated Devices/Propellant Actuated Devices (CAD/PAD), Situational Awareness Data Link, Enhance Position Location Reporting Systems (EPLRS), LN-260 (SPS version, non-PPS), and AN/AAQ-33 SNIPER or AN/AAQ-28 LITENING Targeting Systems. Also included are tools, support and test equipment, spare and repair parts, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support. The estimated cost is $750 million.

The proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by improving the security of a strategic partner that has been, and continues to be, an important force for economic progress in Southeast Asia.

Indonesia desires the F-16 aircraft to modernize the Indonesian Air Force (IAF) fleet with aircraft more capable of conducting operations in the outermost border regions of Indonesia. The IAF’s current fleet of F-16 Block 15 aircraft is not capable of fulfilling that role, and the aging F-5 aircraft are expensive to maintain and operate due to diminishing resources existing to support the aircraft. The avionics upgrade will provide the IAF an additional capability benefitting security by modernizing the force structure, and enhancing interoperability by greater use of U.S.-produced equipment. Indonesia, which already has F-16 Block 15 and F-5 aircraft in its inventory, will have no difficulty absorbing these upgraded systems.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

Indonesia requested the regeneration be sole sourced to the 309th Maintenance Wing, Hill Air Force Base, in Ogden, Utah, and Pratt Whitney, in East Hartford, Connecticut for the engine overhaul. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Indonesia.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.

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Bonus: Indonesian F 16 Aerobatic team (1996 event). Now we dont have F 16 Aerobatic team anymore, only T 50 Golden Eagle and Sukhoi 27/30


 
I´m a little bit disappointed. the article fails to mention aegis destroyers :D
 
Aegis what?

know your wallet first lah
we spend our limited resources on defence, keep the sea lanes open for everyone, bearing the brunt of chinese aggression. haven´t you noticed how the chinese bully our people days and nights? I bet they laugh at our Navy by any chance.

that must change. I seriously think we could ask our neighbors such as from Japan to South Korea to Taiwan to contribute to our defence. they benefit the works from our Navy. Donald Trump asks Japan and South Korea for more money for US troops, why shouldn´t we do the same?
 
we spend our limited resources on defence, keep the sea lanes open for everyone, bearing the brunt of chinese aggression. haven´t you noticed how the chinese bully our people days and nights? I bet they laugh at our Navy by any chance.

I seriously think we could ask our neighbors such as from Japan to South Korea to Taiwan to contribute to our defence. Donald Trump asks Japan and South Korea for more money for US troops, why shouldn´t we do the same?

what is Vietnam position in this case? what Vietnamese weight in this matter against China? China is not yet to be an agressor country like Imperial Japan in WW II, they still part of International community. Most of sane country in this planet will prefer to have a cordial and closer relationship with China, not to made them a hostile power.
 
we spend our limited resources on defence, keep the sea lanes open for everyone, bearing the brunt of chinese aggression. haven´t you noticed how the chinese bully our people days and nights? I bet they laugh at our Navy by any chance.

that must change. I seriously think we could ask our neighbors such as from Japan to South Korea to Taiwan to contribute to our defence. they benefit the works from our Navy. Donald Trump asks Japan and South Korea for more money for US troops, why shouldn´t we do the same?
In your wet dream, you still haven return the stolen islet from Pinoy in the 1974 when your arm forces cheat them for a party and steal the islet right under their nose. Pinoy will ask Uncle Sam on their behalf to ask you back the islet back first. :lol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Cay
 
F-16? P3C? Well I don't think americans will supply them for free, and I guess russians may get mad:pop: And I have to mention that this increases the possibility that vietnam will suffer the attack of missiles targeting their military airports and even other facilities when there's a conflict breaks out.
 

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