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Vietnam emerges as sole economic winner in Southeast Asia

In fact, Vietnam and North Korea are more like China than other neighboring countries.Our culture and ideas are also largely similar.
We should respect Vietnam , which may become another south korea。In fact, we have more in common than other countries.

Vietnam is not South Korea. Back in the Imperial days Korea was a loyal subject whereas Vietnam only professed loyalty while secretly committing treason by misappropriating Imperial titles.

Even now Vietnam harbors hegemonic ambition over Indo-China Peninsula. We must continue to strengthen our relations with Thailand and prevent a Vietnamese hegemony.

Vietnam is a monster we've created, we have a responsibility to keep it in check.
 
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As far as today, I still don't see anything Vietnam can proud of but these low IQ Viet crow already think they will be rich country, so hilarious.
 
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There were times Vietnam's manufacturing output was less than a rounding error of ours.
Its bcs Deng came to JP-US and begged help since 1979 while VN was still fighting against CN in the North and Pol Pot in the South West ( Cambodia) plus suffering hard US sanction.

But daddy Jap-US stopped helping CN , thats why CN cant even sell AI camera to US now and VN bkav cam took the market, Hikvision is in big debt and collapsing :cool:
Even now Vietnam harbors hegemonic ambition over Indo-China Peninsula. We must continue to strengthen our relations with Thailand and prevent a Vietnamese hegemony.

Vietnam is a monster we've created, we have a responsibility to keep it in check.
CN leader just admitted that they badly need help from VN in trade war. Thats why CN keep begging us to join RCEP even when we r the most hostile nation to CN .
 
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GDP to surge past virus-hit Singapore and Malaysia on China manufacturing exodus
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Rising exports and effective control of the coronavirus have kept Vietnam's economy growing despite the pandemic. © Reuters
TAKASHI NAKANO and TOMOYA ONISHI, Nikkei staff writersNovember 19, 2020 03:26 JST


SINGAPORE/HANOI -- Vietnam is shaping up as Southeast Asia's single economic success story in the coronavirus era, maintaining steady positive growth as other economies struggle to recover.

Vietnam's real gross domestic product expanded 2.6% on the year in the third quarter, marking a second straight quarter of growth amid the pandemic.

The International Monetary Fund sees the country rising to fourth in nominal GDP in the Association of Southeast Asian Nations this year, passing Singapore and Malaysia and gaining on the Philippines.

In contrast to other ASEAN economies, Vietnam has succeeded in keeping the virus under control. Rising exports have also helped to drive growth, as companies relocate production from China.

Exports grew 9.9% on the year in October to $26.7 billion, and the Ministry of Industry and Trade projects a full-year rise of 3% to 4%.

An ultra-large container ship operated by Maersk docked at Cai Mep in late October, a first for southern Vietnam's largest port. While these vessels usually opt for other ports in the region, such as Singapore, Vietnam's growing exports have boosted shipping demand enough to make it worthwhile for ships bound for Western countries to stop there.

This allows for more direct transportation of Vietnamese goods to buyers, which lowers shipping costs, shortens transit time and makes the country more competitive as an exporter.


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With more goods going out of Vietnam, big container ships have begun stopping there directly, cutting transport costs and time for exporters. © Reuters


The trade friction between the U.S. and China has benefited Vietnamese trade, thanks to manufacturers relocating factories out of China to avoid American tariffs.

Both multinational corporations and Chinese businesses have moved production to Vietnam to take advantage of its skilled, low-cost labor. Samsung Electronics, which has manufactured smartphones in the country for over a decade, also looks to move personal computer production there as it shuts down a plant in China.

Vietnam has reported just 1,300 or so coronavirus cases to date, keeping the economic impact of the outbreak to a minimum. The country imposed a mass lockdown for only three weeks in April, and normal manufacturing activity resumed faster than it did elsewhere in the region. Job losses were limited, and consumer spending, which accounts for 70% of GDP, has remained solid.

Meanwhile, other ASEAN countries have yet to emerge from virus-induced slumps. The IMF's full-year GDP forecast shows a 1.6% rise in Vietnam, but drops of 6% in Singapore and Malaysia and a 7.1% slump in Thailand.

Malaysia's economy shrank 2.7% in the third quarter, dragged down by a 4% decline in the services sector, which generates nearly 60% of GDP.

Tourism-related industries have been hit especially hard. Occupancy at Malaysian hotels slumped to just 20% in the last week of October amid a spike in cases, according to the Malaysian Association of Hotels.

The industry group warned that without further government assistance, tourism businesses "will be forced to make difficult decisions as well as take drastic actions to survive," suggesting that further job cuts are on the table.


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The Thai government released economic data Monday showing a 6.4% fall in GDP, marking a third straight quarter of contraction.


Vietnam's per capita GDP of about $3,500 remains well below Singapore's $58,500 and Malaysia's $10,200. But the pandemic is accelerating a shift in the region's economic pecking order.

Cases have been reaching new highs in Indonesia, Southeast Asia's largest economy, while Malaysia has been grappling with a second wave since last month. As long as infection levels remain high, economic activity will stagnate as consumers avoid going out, putting a recovery further out of reach.

Though some ASEAN countries predict a sharp rebound next year, Vietnam could remain the sole economy to see actual growth into the first half of 2021, depending on how the outbreak progresses.

Yet even Hanoi has factors clouding its outlook. U.S. President-elect Joe Biden is widely expected to maintain Washington's hard line toward China, but if he scraps punitive tariffs imposed by the current administration, the migration of manufacturers to Vietnam could slow.

Next year will also see a reduced boost from public works investment, which the government stepped up this year ahead of the Communist Party congress in January 2021. The country's leadership for the next five years will be decided at the event, and how the new government chooses to steer the economy will have a significant effect on Vietnam's competitiveness over the longer term.


well good for you, I would rather see Viets get rich than dirty Indians
 
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Average wages in Vietnam is around 500 usd a month already. No need to inflate. If there is anything, it is vietnam who undereport our Gdp to continue to receive low interest loan rate and other special aid from world organizations and developed countries.
Sure mate, and you care to explain to me why so many are sold as brides here?
 
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Its bcs Deng came to JP-US and begged help since 1979 while VN was still fighting against CN in the North and Pol Pot in the South West ( Cambodia) plus suffering hard US sanction.

But daddy Jap-US stopped helping CN , thats why CN cant even sell AI camera to US now and VN bkav cam took the market, Hikvision is in big debt and collapsing :cool:

CN leader just admitted that they badly need help from VN in trade war. Thats why CN keep begging us to join RCEP even when we r the most hostile nation to CN .

Cherish this good situation for developing as fast as possible. In the East Asia, your nation and North Korea drop behind too much, I wish all the area prosperous. In long time, you guys will still rely on China. Chance of rise and peace is precious. Grasp it and don't waste your energy on these bullsht.
 
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Cherish this good situation for developing as fast as possible. In the East Asia, your nation and North Korea drop behind too much, I wish all the area prosperous. In long time, you guys will still rely on China. Chance of rise and peace is precious. Grasp it and don't waste your energy on these bullsht.
As communist nations, we rely each other. CN is a meat shield to protect VN against US's aggression ( war will happen between US-CN, not US-VN at least till CN collapse).

Of course we will try to grasp the chance to make sure that even if CN collapse in CN-US cold/trade war, VN will still survive and keep growing well :pop:
 
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Vietnam is not South Korea. Back in the Imperial days Korea was a loyal subject whereas Vietnam only professed loyalty while secretly committing treason by misappropriating Imperial titles.

Even now Vietnam harbors hegemonic ambition over Indo-China Peninsula. We must continue to strengthen our relations with Thailand and prevent a Vietnamese hegemony.

Vietnam is a monster we've created, we have a responsibility to keep it in check.
What treason? There was an agreement with the chinese court Vietnam accepted formal supremacy of China over the region however we kept sovereignty, own army and imperial title. The deal was made in peace agreement. Thailand is in decline. You can’t help them.
 
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What treason? There was an agreement with the chinese court Vietnam accepted formal supremacy of China over the region however we kept sovereignty, own army and imperial title. The deal was made in peace agreement. Thailand is in decline. You can’t help them.
VN didn't call Mongol and Manchus as daddy like Han did, so they (Han) got angry and called us treason.

Cant blame them anyway . We killed Mongol and Manchus so well while they r under 100 years of Mongol and 300 years of Manchurian :lol:
 
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What treason? There was an agreement with the chinese court Vietnam accepted formal supremacy of China over the region however we kept sovereignty, own army and imperial title. The deal was made in peace agreement. Thailand is in decline. You can’t help them.

While I doubt any Chinese court would compromise on imperial titles (sovereignty and army would be fine), I’m willing to stand corrected if you can give me some references for your claim.

Thailand needs to get its acts together, but I wouldn’t count them out just yet. Hope something good will come out of the current protests.
 
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While I doubt any Chinese court would compromise on imperial titles (sovereignty and army would be fine), I’m willing to stand corrected if you can give me some references for your claim.

Thailand needs to get its acts together, but I wouldn’t count them out just yet. Hope something good will come out of the current protests.
Im not sure if CN court would compromise on imperial titles ,but many VN leaders claimed as Emperors, such as Quang Trung Hoang De ( Hoang de :emperor) after he defeated Manchus invasion to VN.

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Niên hiệu
Thụy hiệu
Quang Trung Hoàng Đế
Quang Trung (光中: 1788 - 1792)
Võ Hoàng đế (武皇帝 = Wudi emperor???)
 
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Congrats Vietnam. More prosperous ASEAN is good for the bloc
 
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Im not sure if CN court would compromise on imperial titles ,but many VN leaders claimed as Emperors, such as Quang Trung Hoang De ( Hoang de :emperor) after he defeated Manchus invasion to VN.

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Thụy hiệu
Niên hiệu
Quang Trung Hoàng Đế
Quang Trung (光中: 1788 - 1792)
Võ Hoàng đế (武皇帝 = Wudi emperor???)

I know they used imperial titles in Vietnam but the question was whether they were allowed to use imperial titles in a peace treaty with China as @Viet attested. My impression was they used imperial titles in Vietnam but always presented themselves as kings to China.
 
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In fact, Vietnam and North Korea are more like China than other neighboring countries.Our culture and ideas are also largely similar.
We should respect Vietnam , which may become another south korea。In fact, we have more in common than other countries.

Chinese have nothing in common with Vietnam. Vietnam's GDP per capita is like China's in 2000.

In 2000 China already had Huawei, SMIC and Alibaba. Does Vietnam have any competitors?
There were times Vietnam's manufacturing output was less than a rounding error of ours.

Few years ago, it was like that of single district in Dongguan (yes, even thought that single district holds a quarter of Guangdong's industry)

Their "manufacturing" "output" is mostly using extremely cheap low wage labor to sew textiles in Chinese owned factories using Chinese fabrics on Chinese machinery.
Cherish this good situation for developing as fast as possible. In the East Asia, your nation and North Korea drop behind too much, I wish all the area prosperous. In long time, you guys will still rely on China. Chance of rise and peace is precious. Grasp it and don't waste your energy on these bullsht.

North Korea is under sanctions, but they have the chance to develop far better than Vietnam.

Proof: they have aerospace industry despite sanctions while Vietnam even has to import fabric from China for their textiles.
 
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Lol at these chinese. Vietnam just reach 3500 usd per capita (more like 6000 usd) and they went ape shixt about it. It really puts a smile on my face seeing how angry they are.
 
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