Vietnam Defence Forum

[Viet]

What fleet?

Haven't you heard of Vietnam' s FUTURE three naval fleets?

- north fleet
- central fleet
- south fleet

North and central fleets guard the South China Sea and western Pacific. South fleet guards the Gulf of Thailand and the Straits of malacca.

 

[Viet]

@BoQ77 , I read through previous posts, and I think Aegis has some relevance in the discussions.

I think the discussions were quite civil. Good job.

However, let's get back to discussing "Vietnam military news".

If the mods are too strict, you will complain that there is no freedom of speech.

This thread will be boring.

Tip: If someone tries to derail this thread, just ignore his post and he will go away.

I fully support your opinion. Why restrict discussion by reasons nobody understands?

If I recall, BoQ asked some few posts ago, what US weapons Vietnam can buy, but now he wants other not to talk on Aegis because it is not relevant. He may mean Vietnam can buy everything from America, including nuclear powered submarines, but no way Aegis. Very funny. Besides, Aegis stands for US developed computer aided naval combat system. A Vietnam made version would have a different name.

 

[Silent Knight]

Aegis is not just a ship-based air defense system. It's a complex network of multiple ship-based ADS connected by an unified datalink, allowing them to distribute target acquisition/engagement.

Tiger was right, only the US (has been) and China (developing) a complete Aegis or Aegis-like system. Russia has strong naval ADS, but they lack the unified coordination and combat management system. It's more like several individual ADS.

Vietnam is way too far from getting hands on Aegis technology. I think we should focus primarily on medium and long range air defense system for surface ships first. Currently Vietnamese warships only have short range ADS and CIWS, we simply have no fleet air defense at all.
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In another news:

India officially offers 500 million USD defense credit for Vietnam

 

[BoQ77]

I fully support your opinion. Why restrict discussion by reasons nobody understands?

If I recall, BoQ asked some few posts ago, what US weapons Vietnam can buy, but now he wants other not to talk on Aegis because it is not relevant. He may mean Vietnam can buy everything from America, including nuclear powered submarines, but no way Aegis. Very funny. Besides, Aegis stands for US developed computer aided naval combat system. A Vietnam made version would have a different name.

nuclear powered submarines are more meaningful to Vietnam than Aegis combat system ships.
Why? because those are suitable to strategy of Vietnam.
If those nuclear powered subs are available to Vietnam in 2009, I think maybe Vietnam already get 3 of them. Heavier weapon loaded, longer time under water. 3 of them value more than 12 of Kilo- subs

It was unpredictable thing for China to hear that Vietnam signed for 6 of Kilo-class subs back to 2009 When Vietnam has not any frigate.
The value of contract is huge to Vietnam annual budget, especially in 2009 but that's the decisive and wise move.

 

[Viet]

nuclear powered submarines are more meaningful to Vietnam than Aegis combat system ships

what a surprise! thank you for the information.

ok why not talk on how the Navy can acquire a squadron nuclear submarines armed with SLBM? any idea?

 

[BoQ77]

“Vấn đề mua vũ khí của Mỹ, trước hết Việt Nam cần tính xem nhu cầu ra sao, phía Mỹ có khả năng cung cấp đến đâu và nó có phù hợp với chiến lược quốc phòng của chúng ta hay không?”, Đại sứ Việt Nam tại Mỹ Phạm Quang Vinh nói.

Vietnam Ambassador in US Pham Quang Vinh said " have to study.... which US weapons fit to Vietnam defense strategy"

To me, F-35 fit well to Vietnam strategy, much more than Aegis ... thing

 

[Viet]

Vietnam Ambassador in US Pham Quang Vinh said " have to study.... which US weapons fit to Vietnam defense strategy"

To me, F-35 fit well to Vietnam strategy, much more than Aegis ... thing

what about B2 strategic bomber?

 

[Carlosa]

nuclear powered submarines are more meaningful to Vietnam than Aegis combat system ships.
Why? because those are suitable to strategy of Vietnam.
If those nuclear powered subs are available to Vietnam in 2009, I think maybe Vietnam already get 3 of them. Heavier weapon loaded, longer time under water. 3 of them value more than 12 of Kilo- subs

It was unpredictable thing for China to hear that Vietnam signed for 6 of Kilo-class subs back to 2009 When Vietnam has not any frigate.
The value of contract is huge to Vietnam annual budget, especially in 2009 but that's the decisive and wise move.

I believe neither one would be realistic for Vietnam; cost is already a big reason, but VN does not have the capability to deal with nuclear reactors. SSK subs like the Kilos are the way to go and they are more silent than nuclear subs. What Vietnam needs is AIP subs.

 

[BoQ77]

I believe neither one would be realistic for Vietnam; cost is already a big reason, but VN does not have the capability to deal with nuclear reactors. SSK subs like the Kilos are the way to go and they are more silent than nuclear subs. What Vietnam needs is AIP subs.

Appreciate your comment. If Vietnam decided they need subs, any subs with longer submersible time is better. Nuclear subs may need more training but easier to deploy at will and last longer.

 

[Viet]

the news is already posted. I added here more pictures and comments. Field testing of Vietnam made 5.56 x 45mm and 7,62 x 51mm standard NATO calibre ammunition. So should the NATO ever face shortage, the alliance can place orders at Vietnam ammunition factories.


test firing with 5.56 x 45 mm NATO calibre

test firing with 7.62 x 51 mm NATO calibre

 

[Viet]

welcome Narendra Modi to Vietnam!

@Nilgiri
@Farhan Bohra

 

[Farhan Bohra]

https://twitter.com/x/status/771930180923297792

https://twitter.com/x/status/771930811260076032

 

[Echo_419]

welcome Narendra Modi to Vietnam!

@Nilgiri
@Farhan Bohra

Congrats Space & IT is our strong suite

 

[Carlosa]

Appreciate your comment. If Vietnam decided they need subs, any subs with longer submersible time is better. Nuclear subs may need more training but easier to deploy at will and last longer.

Yes, but don't forget that a nuclear sub is 2 billion usd. Vietnam paid 1.8 billion for 6 Kilos.

 

[Silent Knight]

Say no to anything with nuclear, except the nuclear power plant