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Rocket Launchers: Vietnam's Bold South China Sea Move
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...ams-bold-south-china-sea-move-17368?page=show

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It was inevitable, but nations in the South China Sea that have overlapping claims with the People’s Republic of China are now beginning to push back–and this time we are not talking about Lawfare or my beloved Shamefare, but are now finally enhancing their own military capabilities.

Last week, Reuters reported that Vietnam “has discreetly fortified several of its islands in the disputed South China Sea with new mobile rocket launchers capable of striking China’s runways and military installations across the vital trade route,” citing unnamed western officials.

The report goes on to note that Hanoi shipped the weapons from the Vietnamese mainland to five bases in the disputed Spratly Islands “in recent months.” It also explains that “the launchers have been hidden from aerial surveillance and they have yet to be armed, but could be made operational with rocket artillery rounds within two or three days,” according to multiple sources in the story.

The weapons in question that Vietnam chose to deploy also make a big statement. Interestingly enough, they are not some second-tier platform from 20 years ago, but the EXTRA rocket artillery system made in Israel — a great platform for attacking invading soldiers landing on island beaches.

A reaction to Chinese aggression

So what to make of all of this? My response is quite simple: What took Hanoi so long considering the stakes and China’s own aggressive actions in South China Sea?

While there is certainly plenty of blame to go around and none of the claimants in the South China Sea struggle are innocent of creating unnecessary mischief, Beijing has clearly been the aggressor in recent years.

Its declaration of a cow-tounged nine-dash-line (really ten, but who’s counting?) and historical claim of everything in between those lines, comprising almost all of the South China Sea, has driven tensions to new heights as Beijing has sought to enforce its claims.

From harassing rival claimants’ fishing fleets, utilizing its “maritime militia” to ensure its dominance on the high seas, placing oil rigs on multiple occasions over several years in disputed waters near Vietnam and building massive new islands that are clearly militarized, there is only one nation that seeks to overturn the status-quo.

Even a major defeat in the Hague has not slowed China’s push towards regional dominance — now including what I like to call “bomber selfies.”

Hanoi has the Tools to Push Back:

Of all the nations in the South China Sea that are in the best position to push back against Beijing’s bullying tendencies, clearly Vietnam has the most ability and capability — and some unique diplomatic options.

Hanoi has purchased some of the world’s most advanced conventional submarines from Moscow in recent years, also acquiring advanced fighter aircraft from the Russians as well. Vietnam, while still outmanned and surely outgunned in a firefight with Beijing, has been purchasing platforms that would at least give China some pause, with some arguing Hanoi could even be putting together a crude anti-access/area-denial capability (A2/AD), right out of China’s military playbook.

But beyond military and economic levers, both nations — well, at least on paper, anyway — are fellow Communist countries, and ‘party to party’ talks still occur. Hanoi and Beijing have the ability to discuss the South China Sea challenge discreetly, away from the media, with top leaders in this format able to exchange views in a more candid nature.

Vietnam could leverage such connections, working with their colleagues in China to seek possible compromises — or at least voice their displeasure without creating a diplomatic incident.

A Budding Arms Race in South China Sea?:

But there is danger here that any first or second year political science student would recognize almost instantly — the infamous security dilemma that could spiral into a classic arms race.

While Vietnam’s move is merely a reaction to China’s much, much larger militarization of its own South China Sea islands, Beijing will very likely use this action by Vietnam to respond — and possibly even increase its military lead over rival claims substantially.

Indeed, in recent days, it has been shown that China now has large, military grade, reinforced hangars on its new islands in the South China Sea, capable of housing any plane in the Chinese arsenal. Beijing could simply decide to base some of its most lethal air assets permanently here. And don’t forget, China has said time and time again that its decision to declare an Air Defense Identification Zone, or ADIZ, would be based on what Beijing felt was the overall security picture in the area.

Does this move by Vietnam make such a step more likely? We might just find out soon enough, but not until early to mid September.

Harry J. Kazianis is Senior Fellow for Defense Policy at The Center for the National Interest and Senior Editor for The National Interest Magazine. You can follow him on twitter: @grecianformula.

This first appeared in AsiaTimes here.

Image: Creative Commons.
 
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The text read:

- The batch of new generation tanks, "S" version, has officially commissioned by a SEA country, with the most powerful options, including Shtora-1. These tanks has been delivered to Unit X and the conversion training is underway.

- T-90 was highly rated so there will be no additional T-72B3 purchase.
 
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@waz @Hu Songshan

I'd like to ask the moderators to clean up the thread by removing these above posts that are all political, insulting and not related to this thread and please take some action against these trolls that only joined the forum in order to poison the thread. We don't need this.
 
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New KAMAZ trucks for Vietnam Army.

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The one of the important fact is that KAMAZ planned to open assembly factory in Vietnam where trucks and buses will be produced. So the KAMAZ trucks may become a main and the most numerous trucks of the VPA. :)
 
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Incredible. thread is reopened. Thanks heaven.

@Barmaley great news. I can imagine how we will use such trucks, from troop transporter to artillery vehicle to missile launcher. May Vietnam-Russia friendship prosper in the next 1,000 years :P
 
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Incredible. thread is reopened. Thanks heaven.

@Barmaley great news. I can imagine how we will use such trucks, from troop transporter to artillery vehicle to missile launcher. May Vietnam-Russia friendship prosper in the next 1,000 years :P

Amen. Good to see you again too.

I'm going to lock this thread, it will take a while to clean up. Please be patient.

Thank you man. Please keep an eye on the thread.

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The text read:

- The batch of new generation tanks, "S" version, has officially commissioned by a SEA country, with the most powerful options, including Shtora-1. These tanks has been delivered to Unit X and the conversion training is underway.

- T-90 was highly rated so there will be no additional T-72B3 purchase.

@Viet Poor sis Madokafc, pretty soon she won't be able to keep repeating her usual line: "Vietnam still using very old tanks, everything old, Even Thailand has better".
 
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Wrong.
1, 2 aren't in Vietnam
3, is the IMR-2 - combat engineering vehicle built on T-72 main battle tank
 
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@Viet Poor sis Madofc, pretty soon she won't be able to keep repeating her usual line: "Vietnam still using very old tanks, everything old, Even Thailand has better".
Because he didn't understand Vietnamese people. We can use all of the things to defend or fight with the enemy. Old or new,no matter, it is only important when their interests can be performed.
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One example. It is our weapon from one thousand years and it used in Vietnam War. And it is obviously important for our victory. One interesting thing i find in quora, the last pic, it is Vietnamese weapon , the useful weapon it was used to take down helicopters! Well! They just need to hang it on a tree and when a helicopter lower itself close enough, the wind from the chopper propeller will spin the trap's propeller and spring the pin off while throwing the grenade at the helicopter.
 
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Amen. Good to see you again too.



Thank you man. Please keep an eye on the thread.



@Viet Poor sis Madofc, pretty soon she won't be able to keep repeating her usual line: "Vietnam still using very old tanks, everything old, Even Thailand has better".

that's not even a credible pics
 
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The text read:

- The batch of new generation tanks, "S" version, has officially commissioned by a SEA country, with the most powerful options, including Shtora-1. These tanks has been delivered to Unit X and the conversion training is underway.

- T-90 was highly rated so there will be no additional T-72B3 purchase.

klq, but what do you think of that codosaov..+tiem.kich? Why is there such a fierce beef between those 2 and evanna?
 
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Amen. Good to see you again too.

Thank you man. Please keep an eye on the thread.

@Viet Poor sis Madofc, pretty soon she won't be able to keep repeating her usual line: "Vietnam still using very old tanks, everything old, Even Thailand has better".
I needed a break. Thanks.

In respect of T-72/90, I would like to see more pictures of the tanks, having them in exercises. Don't understand our people, why there is a need to hide the tanks, considering that is impossible to hide them before spy satellites and other means on the ground. Besides maintaining a credible deterrent includes showing what you have, reminding our potential opponents what price will have to pay.

Ok anyway. Has anyone read the recent news?

Vietnam artillery Corps recently staged an exercise with Bastion-P (Yakhont) antiship missile. The heavy weight supersonic missile can hit a destroyer in 300 km away with high accuracy and sink it with one hit. The exercise shows the Yakhont was shipped and brought to an island. I think the author wants to demonstrate our ability or possibility to bring the system to the Spratly islands.

And maybe a coincidence, Russia media posted a news, Vietnam receives the third Yakhont battery. I may look for more news to confirm.


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Vietnam buttresses SCS presence
17th August 2016 - 2:32
by Gordon Arthur in Hong Kong


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News emerged last week that Vietnam had deployed mobile rocket launchers on some of its occupied islets in the Spratly chain in the South China Sea. If true, these would pose a military threat to China, as well as increase tensions.

The reports stated that Vietnam had discreetly shipped launchers to five of its South China Sea bases, where they remain hidden from aerial surveillance. While not yet armed it is believed they could be quickly fitted with long-range rockets.

Vietnam however denied these rumours with the Foreign Ministry described the reports as ‘inaccurate’.

Furthermore, in June the country’s deputy defence minister Sr Lt Gen Nguyen Chi Vinh told Reuters in Singapore that Vietnam did not have such weapons in the South China Sea, although ‘it is within our legitimate right to self-defence to move any of our weapons to any area at any time within our sovereign territory’.

The weapons being talked about are 20 EXTRA rockets that Vietnam bought from Israel Military Industries (IMI), the existence of which became public earlier this year. The EXTRA carries a 120kg warhead containing high explosives or sub-munitions.

They only need a compact radar to operate (Vietnam recently acquired IAI Elta ELM-2288/ER radars from Israel), so they are mobile and have a small footprint. When combined with a UAV (Vietnam also acquired Orbiter 2 UAVs from Israel), they can target hostile land-based or sea-based assets.

Indeed, the EXTRA’s 150km range would be sufficient to target China’s newly reclaimed military installations at Subi, Fiery Cross and Mischief reefs. Hanoi clearly feels its own numerous reefs are vulnerable, and so beefing up their protection with the EXTRA would make logical sense.

Alarmed at Chinese activities on its maritime doorstep, Vietnam has been further developing Sin Cowe Island, Sand Cay and West Reef in the Paracels too.

Vietnam is boosting naval power with six Kilo-class submarines, new frigates and corvettes. The Vietnam Coast Guard (VCG) is also growing steadily in capability, receiving a 90m multirole replenishment vessel and two 400t patrol boats on 14 July. These are part of a seven-ship order approved under a VCG modernisation programme in 2014 to promote economic development and enhance maritime sovereignty.

Vietnam deployed Rafael SPYDER surface-to-air missiles (SAM) in 2015, while it is rumoured it will start negotiating for Russian S-400 SAMs later this year. It is in the market for at least four battalions’ worth of this 380km-range missile, which would complement the S-300PMU-1 SAMs it already has.

Given widespread concern about China’s aggressive stance in the South China Sea, Vietnam is taking full advantage of support from the international community. For example, Washington pledged $18 million for five US-built Metal Shark patrol boats, while Japan gifted six second-hand boats to Hanoi for conversion into patrol boats. The USA and Japan see Vietnam as a hedge against Chinese expansionism.

Television footage aired on Vietnamese television on 10 August showed the country’s Russian-built K-300P Bastion-P coastal defence missile system being deployed by landing craft.

Such a deployment showed that Vietnam is able to quickly deploy this coastal defence missile system to its Spratly or Paracel island features. Bastion-P utilises the 300km-range 3M55E Yakhont anti-ship missile, with Vietnam receiving its first systems in 2009.

Vietnam is also interested in the supersonic BrahMos cruise missile from India. No formal order has yet been placed for the 290km-range missile that can attack sea- or land-based targets, though it is rumoured that a deal, perhaps for a land-based battery and frigates, could be signed by year’s end.

Diplomatic relations between Delhi and Hanoi have been on the rise in the past few years, with both concerned about Chinese military activities on their respective doorsteps. In October 2014 the two signed an MoU in which India offered a $100 million line of credit for defence acquisitions such as four offshore patrol vessels.

India already trains members of Vietnam’s submarine force, given that both navies operate Kilo-class boats. In December 2014 the Indian government approved training of Vietnamese pilots on the Su-30, a fighter type that both countries use.

There were also reports in January that India planned to establish a satellite tracking and imaging station in southern Vietnam. Although described as a ‘civil facility’, India’s earth observation satellite would be able to provide data about China and the South China Sea to Vietnam.

In relation to the Philippine arbitration case against China, Sebastien Colin – a researcher at the Hong Kong-based French Centre for Research on Contemporary China – told Shephard: ‘Vietnam, which did not choose the legal card in order not to worsen its relations with China, is also diversifying its partnerships and looking here and there for some counterweights.’

‘In this context, China must constantly seek a delicate balance between its inflexibility on territorial sovereignty issues and the desire to continue the development of economic relations with its neighbours,' he added.
 
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