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you should look back at the time, when this clash happened, the year of 1988, to understand.For the 1988 sea fight,
1) there were also unarmed Chinese soldiers standing in the water!
2) the Chinese ships used guns or artillery only in the fight. The VN ships had guns or artillery as well !
3) The Chinese ships were almost naked to air. But Vietnam at that time had SU22 already! (Vietnam had its first SU-22 in 1979). If the SU22 took off and reached the fight area, it could be almost a disaster to PLA Navy. Thanks to god, SU22 not taking off, otherwise the history might be completely changed!!!
If there is anyone should be blamed for the death of the VN soldiers, that should be the VPA leadership. They sent the soldiers that "don't want to fight"; they offered few naval protection to the soldiers; they didn't use SU-22, which could bring a nightmare to the PLA Navy. So, instead of posting nonsense here, you'd better write a letter to the son or daughter of the VPA leadership then to ask them whey their father be so stxxid in commanding the 1988 sea fight with China. Maybe you can start your letter with the following words from "The Art of War" By Sun Tzu
"Now the general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple ere the battle is fought. The general who loses a battle makes but few calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose"
many factors:
- VN was at war with China, with the PLA artillery repeaty shelling our border cities, PLA infantry making incursions into VN.
- CN supported the remains of Cambodia Red Khmer army with money and weapons in their hideouts in Thailand.
they posed a serious threat to the new from VN supported Cambodian government. - all of VN resources were nearly exhausted, with economy collapsing, inflation skyrocketing, shortages of everything from food to electricity, millions of refugees
- total arms and economic embargo by America, Japan and the Western world
- ASEAN members turned against VN.
- the sense in VN, feeling the incoming collapse of the USSR and the Eastern bloc. thus, the loss of the major backbone of VN in terms of military and economy.
why VN did not send Su22 fighter jets, annihilating the PLA naval escort fleet, taking back the few rocks?
there was a choice to make:
escalate the conflict, prolonging VN suffering or swallow the loss, accepting the bitter pill?
Considering VN ultimate goal was to end the war and to pursue normalisation with China, you may now understand the strategy of VN after the clash in the Spratlys.
"The Art of War" is not unknown in VN.
Accepting the loss of a battle to win the war.
ok what you say with some nuances I don´t agree is correct. but I missed the point you wanted to make.The bully policy of China? What a joke! China already shows a surprising "self-control" in military spending. According to SIPRI (Stockholm International Peace Research Institute), China spends only 1.9% of the GDP on military, while the spending rate of Vietnam is 2.3%, Russia 5.4%, USA 3.3%.
(FYI: For the China figure, SIPRI mentioned: The figures are for estimated total military expenditure, including estimates for items not included in the official defence budget. )
Don't try to blame China for the arm race across ASEAN. Just take an example, Thailand is investing heavily on its navy and air force, but who is a bigger concern to Thailand? Vietnam or China?
Vietnam's 2014 GDP was 186.2 billion USD, or 1,160 billion CNY. Shenzhen, a city from Guangdong Province of China, its 2014 GDP was 1,600 billion CNY. See? The GDP of the whole Vietnam is even significantly smaller than one single city of China! Why should we worry about the arm race with Vietnam?
Arm race has its own cost! The more you spending on military, the less you spend on education, infrastructure, health, scientific research, industrialization, etc, which in the long run, will harm the economic development of your country. That said, to invite Vietnam to run an arm race with us is exactly what we want!
For China, we have a strong manufacturing base, therefore the money we spend on new military equipment, the money we spend on J10, J11, J15, J16, J20, 052C, 052D, submarines, Dongfeng-family missiles, different kinds of satellites, etc, will eventually be kept within our own economy circulation. The money we spend on these equipment
- will turn to be the wages of our scientists, engineers and workers, so better talents could be attracted;
- will turn to be the funds for the defense industry to upgrade their manufacturing equipment
- will turn to be the profits of the defense industry so they could invest more on new weapons R&D
- will turn to be the taxes paid to government so the money becomes the government budget again
But for Vietnam, the money you spend on new military equipment unfortunately turns to be
- wages of Russian scientists, engineers and workers
- funds for the Russian defense industry to upgrade their manufacturing equipment
- profits of the Russian defense industry
- taxes paid to Russian government
You must be thrilled to see this! Right?
state your point!
what is your conclusion?