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I don't mind stopping, but @Carlosa seem to want to keep it going.
Anyway as per your request, I will stop here.
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Keep civil is a good thing every country has good and bad. Ah one interesting stat: Vietnamese nationals account for 3.2 percent of real estate transactions in Singapore according to Coldwell Banker Singapore. VN is a low income middle country with population just have escaped poverty but apparently there are enough Vietnamese with money. Should the Vietnamese government loosen money policy restrictions more Vietnamese will purchase homes and offices in Singapore.

Beautiful Singapore :tup:

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Keep civil is a good thing every country has good and bad. Ah one interesting stat: Vietnamese nationals account for 3.2 percent of real estate transactions in Singapore according to Coldwell Banker Singapore. VN is a low income middle country with population just have escaped poverty but apparently there are enough Vietnamese with money. Should the Vietnamese government loosen money policy restrictions more Vietnamese will purchase homes and offices in Singapore.

Beautiful Singapore :tup:

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Keep civil is a good thing every country has good and bad. Ah one interesting stat: Vietnamese nationals account for 3.2 percent of real estate transactions in Singapore according to Coldwell Banker Singapore. VN is a low income middle country with population just have escaped poverty but apparently there are enough Vietnamese with money. Should the Vietnamese government loosen money policy restrictions more Vietnamese will purchase homes and offices in Singapore.

Beautiful Singapore :tup:
It puzzles me no end that tourists would like to visit Singapore.
Good place to work though, everything, everywhere within easy reach.
I renew my passport say in less than 2 hrs including travel time to and from home.
That could take days in other countries or at the very least wait an hour at the passport office.
We have a lot of rich and maybe corrupted as well, Indonesians, Chinese(PRC) buying properties in Singapore.
So these Vietnamese with money to buy houses in Singapore .... .

Singapore Beautiful, hmm ?
Remember last time you showed me those condos with lush greeneries.
That is beautiful.
Hope you don't miss out Vietnam's property boom.
Cheers.
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It puzzles me no end that tourists would like to visit Singapore.
Good place to work though, everything, everywhere within easy reach.
I renew my passport say in less than 2 hrs including travel time to and from home.
That could take days in other countries or at the very least wait an hour at the passport office.
We have a lot of rich and maybe corrupted as well, Indonesians, Chinese(PRC) buying properties in Singapore.
So these Vietnamese with money to buy houses in Singapore .... .

Singapore Beautiful, hmm ?
Remember last time you showed me those condos with lush greeneries.
That is beautiful.
Hope you don't miss out Vietnam's property boom.
Cheers.
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Yes sometimes the house opposite the street is greener than mine. Ha ha. Seriously speaking and I mean serious because money is a serious matter, speaking from experience as I have been very often in your country. Sing is efficient, clean, great public infrastructure and corruption free. I can recommend all my countrymen to put money and buy houses in safe heaven Singapore. Personally I myself would buy an apartment there not in VN. It is good for bad times. Showing you Condos with lots of greenery? Do you mean the works of the Vietnamese architect Vo trong Nghia? A bit off topic...regardless.


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Only for someone who has millions or billions USD. No Vietnamese are poor, we can't buy such thing, instead we and some friends invest for instance just $400 millions in San Jose, California. Vietnam Town.

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I live in san jose and a lot of the Vietnam Town buildings are still for rent.

It had a massive delay because people had a big argument on what to name it. It was political in nature.
 
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Interesting article from last year that gives an idea about the quality and bravery of chinese soldiers:

UN peacekeepers refused to help as aid workers were raped in South Sudan – report

Chinese troops abandoned their posts rather than engage in fighting and protect civilians, says US-based rights group

Jason Burke, Africa correspondent, and agencies

Thursday 6 October 2016 13.01 BSTFirst published on Thursday 6 October 2016 01.00 BST

United Nations peacekeepers stayed in their bases rather than protect civilians during an outbreak of fighting in South Sudan in July, a rights group has said.

Chinese UN peacekeepers in the capital Juba “abandoned their posts entirely” at one civilian protection site where tens of thousands had sought safety from successive bouts of fighting, a report by the US-based Centre for Civilians in Conflict (Civic) said.

Although Ethiopian troops appear to have withdrawn from their perimeter positions at another base, civilians said the peacekeepers helped evacuate civilian casualties and, on at least a few occasions, returned fire when fighters targeted the camp. Outside the fortified bases, however, peacekeeper presence was “non-existent”.

The failures came amid clashes in Juba between troops from the government’s Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA), loyal to the president Salva Kiir, and opposition forces of his rival Riek Machar. The street battles, in which scores were killed, were the culmination of months of tension between the two factions, and resulted in the flight of Machar from South Sudan.

During four days of fighting between the rival forces, artillery rounds and gunfire hit two UN bases, killing two Chinese peacekeepers.

The Chinese troops subsequently abandoned their posts, leaving weapons and ammunition behind, the report said.


More than 300 people died in the fighting, with the majority of the military casualties sustained by the rebels. A number of government soldiers from the SPLA were also killed.

However, civilians suffered worst, with tens of thousands displaced by the violence and widespread human rights abuses by both sides.

Civilians died inside and outside the UN bases and hundreds – possibly thousands – of women were raped, including many within view of UN bases. Aid workers were also targeted.

On the last day of the fighting, about 80 to 100 government soldiers attacked a compound in Juba where they raped and gang-raped at least five international aid workers and physically or sexually assaulted at least a dozen others, the report said.

They also killed a South Sudanese journalist, apparently because of his ethnicity, it was reported.

One UN base was only several hundred metres from the compound, but despite dozens of appeals for help from the besieged aid workers and personal visits from at least one who escaped from the compound, internal UN documents show no help was sent, the Associated Press reported in August.


The new report, based on about 100 interviews conducted in south Sudan, explains that though the UN gave orders for a peacekeepers to intervene, none “ever tried to leave their bases” with the Chinese and Ethiopian battalions refusing to go.

The UN has more than 12,500 troops from 61 countries deployed in South Sudan, which gained independence from Sudan in 2011 after decades of civil war. Under the UN’s terms of engagement, the force, which is equipped with armoured vehicles and heavy weapons, has the authority to take action to protect civilians and staff from imminent violence.

About 2,500 troops are stationed in two bases in Juba, backed by about 930 support staff and 350 police officers.

“The UN peacekeeping mission faced a challenging environment during the July violence in Juba, but it underperformed in protecting civilians inside and outside its bases,” said Federico Borello, the executive director of Civic. “To ensure that such problems are not repeated, it is critical that the UN be transparent about what went wrong and hold accountable any individuals or units that failed to live up to the protection mandate.”

Civic also called for a UN arms embargo on South Sudan, which was plunged into conflict in December 2013, when the president, Kiir, accused Machar, his former deputy, of plotting a coup.

A patchily implemented peace deal in August 2015 led to Machar’s return to the capital this year, but the agreement broke down.


The UN’s failings in July were not new, Civic said. The group previously investigated an incident in February, when peacekeepers from Ethiopia, India and Rwanda stood by as government soldiers attacked another Protection of Civilians site in the northern town of Malakal, killing at least 30 civilians.

Months later, the UN admitted to peacekeeper “inaction, abandonment of post and refusal to engage” during the Malakal attack, but failed to hold any commanders or troops to account.

Civic said the UN mission in South Sudan received inadequate support from UN headquarters and had been “repeatedly blocked, harassed, and, at times, even attacked by the parties to the conflict”.

“The UN’s failings began before guns were fired in July; the security council has not taken meaningful action to challenge the government of South Sudan as it repeatedly obstructed the movements and functioning of Unmiss.

“The mission, for its part, yielded to a situation in which, in effect, it needed [local authorities’] authorisation to perform many of its most basic protection tasks,” the report said.

UN peacekeeping officials said the report raised a number of important issues, noting that an independent investigation into the Juba violence ordered by the outgoing UN secretary general Ban Ki-moon was due to present its findings shortly.

The UN sites offering civilians refuge were “unsustainable and cannot provide a reliable option for the physical security” of tens of thousands of South Sudanese, the institution’s peacekeeping department said. “The investment we urgently need to make and prioritise in South Sudan is putting the peace process back on track,” it said.

Machar, the former vice president, is in exile in Khartoum, from where he has called for armed resistance against Kiir’s government, raising the prospect of a return to all-out civil war.
 
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I live in san jose and a lot of the Vietnam Town buildings are still for rent.

It has a massive delay because people had a big argument on what to name it. It was political in nature.
Hey how are things in San Jose? We can name "Little Saigon" but as there are too many little Saigon in the States we can name "little Saigon 1" then 2 and so forth. Or how about "Little Da Nang"? Crazy nuts just because all can't agree on a name the project is delayed.

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Interesting article from last year that gives an idea about the quality and bravery of chinese soldiers:

UN peacekeepers refused to help as aid workers were raped in South Sudan – report

Chinese troops abandoned their posts rather than engage in fighting and protect civilians, says US-based rights group

Jason Burke, Africa correspondent, and agencies

Thursday 6 October 2016 13.01 BSTFirst published on Thursday 6 October 2016 01.00 BST

United Nations peacekeepers stayed in their bases rather than protect civilians during an outbreak of fighting in South Sudan in July, a rights group has said.

Chinese UN peacekeepers in the capital Juba “abandoned their posts entirely” at one civilian protection site where tens of thousands had sought safety from successive bouts of fighting, a report by the US-based Centre for Civilians in Conflict (Civic) said.

Although Ethiopian troops appear to have withdrawn from their perimeter positions at another base, civilians said the peacekeepers helped evacuate civilian casualties and, on at least a few occasions, returned fire when fighters targeted the camp. Outside the fortified bases, however, peacekeeper presence was “non-existent”.

The failures came amid clashes in Juba between troops from the government’s Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA), loyal to the president Salva Kiir, and opposition forces of his rival Riek Machar. The street battles, in which scores were killed, were the culmination of months of tension between the two factions, and resulted in the flight of Machar from South Sudan.

During four days of fighting between the rival forces, artillery rounds and gunfire hit two UN bases, killing two Chinese peacekeepers.

The Chinese troops subsequently abandoned their posts, leaving weapons and ammunition behind, the report said.


More than 300 people died in the fighting, with the majority of the military casualties sustained by the rebels. A number of government soldiers from the SPLA were also killed.

However, civilians suffered worst, with tens of thousands displaced by the violence and widespread human rights abuses by both sides.

Civilians died inside and outside the UN bases and hundreds – possibly thousands – of women were raped, including many within view of UN bases. Aid workers were also targeted.

On the last day of the fighting, about 80 to 100 government soldiers attacked a compound in Juba where they raped and gang-raped at least five international aid workers and physically or sexually assaulted at least a dozen others, the report said.

They also killed a South Sudanese journalist, apparently because of his ethnicity, it was reported.

One UN base was only several hundred metres from the compound, but despite dozens of appeals for help from the besieged aid workers and personal visits from at least one who escaped from the compound, internal UN documents show no help was sent, the Associated Press reported in August.


The new report, based on about 100 interviews conducted in south Sudan, explains that though the UN gave orders for a peacekeepers to intervene, none “ever tried to leave their bases” with the Chinese and Ethiopian battalions refusing to go.

The UN has more than 12,500 troops from 61 countries deployed in South Sudan, which gained independence from Sudan in 2011 after decades of civil war. Under the UN’s terms of engagement, the force, which is equipped with armoured vehicles and heavy weapons, has the authority to take action to protect civilians and staff from imminent violence.

About 2,500 troops are stationed in two bases in Juba, backed by about 930 support staff and 350 police officers.

“The UN peacekeeping mission faced a challenging environment during the July violence in Juba, but it underperformed in protecting civilians inside and outside its bases,” said Federico Borello, the executive director of Civic. “To ensure that such problems are not repeated, it is critical that the UN be transparent about what went wrong and hold accountable any individuals or units that failed to live up to the protection mandate.”

Civic also called for a UN arms embargo on South Sudan, which was plunged into conflict in December 2013, when the president, Kiir, accused Machar, his former deputy, of plotting a coup.

A patchily implemented peace deal in August 2015 led to Machar’s return to the capital this year, but the agreement broke down.


The UN’s failings in July were not new, Civic said. The group previously investigated an incident in February, when peacekeepers from Ethiopia, India and Rwanda stood by as government soldiers attacked another Protection of Civilians site in the northern town of Malakal, killing at least 30 civilians.

Months later, the UN admitted to peacekeeper “inaction, abandonment of post and refusal to engage” during the Malakal attack, but failed to hold any commanders or troops to account.

Civic said the UN mission in South Sudan received inadequate support from UN headquarters and had been “repeatedly blocked, harassed, and, at times, even attacked by the parties to the conflict”.

“The UN’s failings began before guns were fired in July; the security council has not taken meaningful action to challenge the government of South Sudan as it repeatedly obstructed the movements and functioning of Unmiss.

“The mission, for its part, yielded to a situation in which, in effect, it needed [local authorities’] authorisation to perform many of its most basic protection tasks,” the report said.

UN peacekeeping officials said the report raised a number of important issues, noting that an independent investigation into the Juba violence ordered by the outgoing UN secretary general Ban Ki-moon was due to present its findings shortly.

The UN sites offering civilians refuge were “unsustainable and cannot provide a reliable option for the physical security” of tens of thousands of South Sudanese, the institution’s peacekeeping department said. “The investment we urgently need to make and prioritise in South Sudan is putting the peace process back on track,” it said.

Machar, the former vice president, is in exile in Khartoum, from where he has called for armed resistance against Kiir’s government, raising the prospect of a return to all-out civil war.
Hey hey never underestimate the Chinese prowess. The propaganda movie wolf warrior 2 hits the money ceiling in China. On the ground they threaten Vietnam with war backed by hard power. 10,000 tanks is a lot. Anyway insider knows the mass of UN peacekeepers are mostly sent by poor countries with bad or zero fighting records. Those countries do that because they receive money from the UN. They make a living from sending soldiers to overseas operations.

Expecting those UN soldiers to fight and give their lives for some dollars is too much demanding.

VN refused until recently to send peacekeepers to overseas. We are poor but not desperate.
 
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Int'l security expo to be held in Vietnam
Source: Xinhua| 2017-08-14 18:53:49|

HANOI, Aug. 14 (Xinhua) -- The 2017 International Homeland Security Expo will take place in Vietnam's capital Hanoi from Aug. 29-30, with the participation of 50 firms and organizations around the world, its organizers announced on Monday.

At 100 booths, the firms and organizations from Russia, the United States, France, Britain, Czech, Ukraine, South Korea, Singapore, India and South Africa, among others, will showcase their advanced products and solutions for security and police forces, including weapons, marine vessels, protective gears and systems for border control, fire fighting, and airspace surveillance.

The two-day expo will be held by the General Department of Logistics and Engineering under the Vietnamese Ministry of Public Security in coordination with a local firm.
 
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Inside a $100 million domestic factory that produces Galil Ace rifles for Vietnamese people's Army.

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India defies missile-exporting China with cruise missile sale to Vietnam
By World Tribune on August 14, 2017


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India’s sale to Vietnam of a short-range, supersonic anti-ship missile has opened a new conflict in an already tense situation with China, an analyst said.

Vietnam will receive the BrahMos which is considered one of the most effective and lethal anti-ship missiles in the world, with speeds reaching Mach 2.8 to 3.0.

“About half of China’s worldwide arms exports go to one country — Pakistan, for the primary reason of ‘containing India,’ ” said Hoover Institution Fellow and Geostrategy-Direct correspondent Maochun Miles Yu in a Facebook post.

“Now India is playing the same game by arming one of China’s arch enemies: Vietnam.”


Russia, which co-produces the BrahMos with India, is said to have given its nod of approval on the sale.

“The Chinese government has major objections about Vietnam getting these missiles for its navy,” said analyst Larkins Dsouza, founder of Defense Aviation.“China sees India selling BrahMos to Vietnam as an act of belligerence and interference in the South China Sea dispute.”

But, Dsouza added, “China seems to be overlooking the fact that it sells a great deal of weapons to Pakistan, a country that has been in a gridlock with India for decades. All indications now point to the fact that New Delhi has overcome its reservations and fears about annoying China.”

The BrahMos can be launched from submarines, ships, aircraft or land. It was developed jointly by India’s Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and Russia’s NPO Mashinostroeyenia. Vietnam is said to be looking to use the missile in its Kilo-class submarines.

The missile is heavily based on the Russian P-800 Oniks cruise missile and other similar sea-skimming Russian cruise missile technology, Dsouza said.

A hypersonic version of the missile, the BrahMos-II, is also currently under development with speeds up to Mach 7. It could be ready for testing some time this year, Dsouza said.
 
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India defies missile-exporting China with cruise missile sale to Vietnam
By World Tribune on August 14, 2017


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The BrahMos is co-produced by India and Russia. / Reuters


India’s sale to Vietnam of a short-range, supersonic anti-ship missile has opened a new conflict in an already tense situation with China, an analyst said.

Vietnam will receive the BrahMos which is considered one of the most effective and lethal anti-ship missiles in the world, with speeds reaching Mach 2.8 to 3.0.

“About half of China’s worldwide arms exports go to one country — Pakistan, for the primary reason of ‘containing India,’ ” said Hoover Institution Fellow and Geostrategy-Direct correspondent Maochun Miles Yu in a Facebook post.

“Now India is playing the same game by arming one of China’s arch enemies: Vietnam.”


Russia, which co-produces the BrahMos with India, is said to have given its nod of approval on the sale.

“The Chinese government has major objections about Vietnam getting these missiles for its navy,” said analyst Larkins Dsouza, founder of Defense Aviation.“China sees India selling BrahMos to Vietnam as an act of belligerence and interference in the South China Sea dispute.”

But, Dsouza added, “China seems to be overlooking the fact that it sells a great deal of weapons to Pakistan, a country that has been in a gridlock with India for decades. All indications now point to the fact that New Delhi has overcome its reservations and fears about annoying China.”

The BrahMos can be launched from submarines, ships, aircraft or land. It was developed jointly by India’s Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and Russia’s NPO Mashinostroeyenia. Vietnam is said to be looking to use the missile in its Kilo-class submarines.

The missile is heavily based on the Russian P-800 Oniks cruise missile and other similar sea-skimming Russian cruise missile technology, Dsouza said.

A hypersonic version of the missile, the BrahMos-II, is also currently under development with speeds up to Mach 7. It could be ready for testing some time this year, Dsouza said.

Excellent news, its about time, too bad there is no details of what version of the Brahmos and what quantity.
 
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Excellent news, its about time, too bad there is no details of what version of the Brahmos and what quantity.
Nothing is confirmed nor revealed probably the news is released to test certain audience. It is a matter of times India runs out of patience with our northern neighbor and provides VN with the missile we need to strengthen our firepower.

VN military operates with secrecy to conceal things we want to hide. It is much similar to purchasing of T90 tanks and hosting the first US aircraft carrier, the news is released when nobody expected. Cheers.
 
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Hey how are things in San Jose? We can name "Little Saigon" but as there are too many little Saigon in the States we can name "little Saigon 1" then 2 and so forth. Or how about "Little Da Nang"? Crazy nuts just because all can't agree on a name the project is delayed.

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The housing market here is getting way out of control. Million dollar for something that should cost 40k. Even homes in the ghetto now costs close to a million.

Interesting article from last year that gives an idea about the quality and bravery of chinese soldiers:

UN peacekeepers refused to help as aid workers were raped in South Sudan – report

Chinese troops abandoned their posts rather than engage in fighting and protect civilians, says US-based rights group

Jason Burke, Africa correspondent, and agencies

Thursday 6 October 2016 13.01 BSTFirst published on Thursday 6 October 2016 01.00 BST

United Nations peacekeepers stayed in their bases rather than protect civilians during an outbreak of fighting in South Sudan in July, a rights group has said.

Chinese UN peacekeepers in the capital Juba “abandoned their posts entirely” at one civilian protection site where tens of thousands had sought safety from successive bouts of fighting, a report by the US-based Centre for Civilians in Conflict (Civic) said.

Although Ethiopian troops appear to have withdrawn from their perimeter positions at another base, civilians said the peacekeepers helped evacuate civilian casualties and, on at least a few occasions, returned fire when fighters targeted the camp. Outside the fortified bases, however, peacekeeper presence was “non-existent”.

The failures came amid clashes in Juba between troops from the government’s Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA), loyal to the president Salva Kiir, and opposition forces of his rival Riek Machar. The street battles, in which scores were killed, were the culmination of months of tension between the two factions, and resulted in the flight of Machar from South Sudan.

During four days of fighting between the rival forces, artillery rounds and gunfire hit two UN bases, killing two Chinese peacekeepers.

The Chinese troops subsequently abandoned their posts, leaving weapons and ammunition behind, the report said.


More than 300 people died in the fighting, with the majority of the military casualties sustained by the rebels. A number of government soldiers from the SPLA were also killed.

However, civilians suffered worst, with tens of thousands displaced by the violence and widespread human rights abuses by both sides.

Civilians died inside and outside the UN bases and hundreds – possibly thousands – of women were raped, including many within view of UN bases. Aid workers were also targeted.

On the last day of the fighting, about 80 to 100 government soldiers attacked a compound in Juba where they raped and gang-raped at least five international aid workers and physically or sexually assaulted at least a dozen others, the report said.

They also killed a South Sudanese journalist, apparently because of his ethnicity, it was reported.

One UN base was only several hundred metres from the compound, but despite dozens of appeals for help from the besieged aid workers and personal visits from at least one who escaped from the compound, internal UN documents show no help was sent, the Associated Press reported in August.


The new report, based on about 100 interviews conducted in south Sudan, explains that though the UN gave orders for a peacekeepers to intervene, none “ever tried to leave their bases” with the Chinese and Ethiopian battalions refusing to go.

The UN has more than 12,500 troops from 61 countries deployed in South Sudan, which gained independence from Sudan in 2011 after decades of civil war. Under the UN’s terms of engagement, the force, which is equipped with armoured vehicles and heavy weapons, has the authority to take action to protect civilians and staff from imminent violence.

About 2,500 troops are stationed in two bases in Juba, backed by about 930 support staff and 350 police officers.

“The UN peacekeeping mission faced a challenging environment during the July violence in Juba, but it underperformed in protecting civilians inside and outside its bases,” said Federico Borello, the executive director of Civic. “To ensure that such problems are not repeated, it is critical that the UN be transparent about what went wrong and hold accountable any individuals or units that failed to live up to the protection mandate.”

Civic also called for a UN arms embargo on South Sudan, which was plunged into conflict in December 2013, when the president, Kiir, accused Machar, his former deputy, of plotting a coup.

A patchily implemented peace deal in August 2015 led to Machar’s return to the capital this year, but the agreement broke down.


The UN’s failings in July were not new, Civic said. The group previously investigated an incident in February, when peacekeepers from Ethiopia, India and Rwanda stood by as government soldiers attacked another Protection of Civilians site in the northern town of Malakal, killing at least 30 civilians.

Months later, the UN admitted to peacekeeper “inaction, abandonment of post and refusal to engage” during the Malakal attack, but failed to hold any commanders or troops to account.

Civic said the UN mission in South Sudan received inadequate support from UN headquarters and had been “repeatedly blocked, harassed, and, at times, even attacked by the parties to the conflict”.

“The UN’s failings began before guns were fired in July; the security council has not taken meaningful action to challenge the government of South Sudan as it repeatedly obstructed the movements and functioning of Unmiss.

“The mission, for its part, yielded to a situation in which, in effect, it needed [local authorities’] authorisation to perform many of its most basic protection tasks,” the report said.

UN peacekeeping officials said the report raised a number of important issues, noting that an independent investigation into the Juba violence ordered by the outgoing UN secretary general Ban Ki-moon was due to present its findings shortly.

The UN sites offering civilians refuge were “unsustainable and cannot provide a reliable option for the physical security” of tens of thousands of South Sudanese, the institution’s peacekeeping department said. “The investment we urgently need to make and prioritise in South Sudan is putting the peace process back on track,” it said.

Machar, the former vice president, is in exile in Khartoum, from where he has called for armed resistance against Kiir’s government, raising the prospect of a return to all-out civil war.

Lol made in china.

No offense to chinese women. We know what you have to work with.
 
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