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inside a C-212 search aircraft

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the doomed C-212 aircraft was flying extremly low altitude when searching the sea. the pilot asked the tower to descend because of bad weather, then the plane was disappearing from the radars. a lighting might have struck the aircraft.

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how all is began: an unknown explosion in the cockpit of the doomed Su-30 which was on a routine patrol near the Gulf of Tonkin causing both pilots to eject from the aircraft. only one pilot survived, the second pilot was found dead, apparently because of injury caused by the explosion.

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inside a C-212 search aircraft


the doomed C-212 aircraft was flying extremly low altitude when searching the sea. the pilot asked the tower to descend because of bad weather, then the plane was disappearing from the radars. a lighting might have struck the aircraft.

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I dont think lightning can down this plane (C 212), but there is wind wave just above any sea that has some down force and up force energy. If the plane fly to low ( like this picture ), it might come to that wind wave that at some point can possibly make the plane down (my theory). Just my speculation though.
 
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one interesting news: Russia’s biggest truck producer KAMAZ plans to increase its export to Vietnam from 700 trucks in 2015 to 1,000 units this year. KAMAZ not only can carry Pansir-S1 gun-missile system, but suitable to other artillery guns as 105 or 152 mm as well.

http://english.vov.vn/trade/russias-kamaz-wants-to-boost-truck-export-to-vietnam-322936.vov


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India’s strategic gambit in Vietnam
New Delhi’s abiding interest in Vietnam is focused on defence and is meant as a pressure point against China


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India under the Narendra Modi government has made no secret of its desire to play a more assertive role in the larger Indo-Pacific. As Modi himself underlined in his address to the joint session of the US Congress last week: “A strong India-US partnership can anchor peace, prosperity and stability from Asia to Africa and from Indian Ocean to the Pacific. It can also help ensure security of the sea lanes of commerce and freedom of navigation on seas.” Therefore, it should not be surprising that India seems now ready to sell the supersonic BrahMos missile, made by an India-Russian joint venture, to Vietnam after dilly-dallying on Hanoi’s request for this sale since 2011. Though India’s ties with Vietnam have been growing in the past few years, this sale was seen as a step too far that would antagonize China.

But now, the Modi government has directed BrahMos Aerospace, which produces the missiles, to expedite this sale to Vietnam along with four other countries—Indonesia, South Africa, Chile and Brazil. India is already providing a concessional line of credit of $100 million for the procurement of defence equipment and in a first of its kind has sold four offshore patrol vessels to Vietnam, which are likely to be used to strengthen the nation’s defences in the energy-rich South China Sea. India’s latest move comes at a time when the US has also lifted its longstanding ban on sales of lethal military equipment to Vietnam. New Delhi’s abiding interest in Vietnam too remains in the defence realm. It wants to build relations with states like Vietnam that can act as pressure points against China. With this in mind, it has been helping Hanoi beef up its naval and air capabilities.

The two nations also have stakes in ensuring sea-lane security, as well as shared concerns about Chinese access to the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea. Hence, India is helping Vietnam build capacity for repair and maintenance of its defence platforms. At the same time, the armed forces of the two states have started cooperation in areas like IT and English-language training of Vietnamese army personnel. The two countries potentially share a common friend—the US. New Delhi has steadily built relations with Washington in the past decade, while Vietnam has been courting America as the South China Sea becomes a flashpoint. As these three countries ponder how to manage China’s rise, they have been drawn closer together.

It is instructive that India entered the fraught region of the South China Sea via Vietnam. India signed an agreement with Vietnam in October 2011 to expand and promote oil exploration in the South China Sea and then reconfirmed its decision to carry on despite the Chinese challenge to the legality of the Indian presence. Beijing told New Delhi that its permission was needed for India’s state-owned oil and gas firm to explore for energy in the two Vietnamese blocks in those waters. But Vietnam quickly cited the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea to claim its sovereign rights over the two blocks in question. Hanoi has been publicly sparring with Beijing over the South China Sea for the past few years, so such a response was expected.

What was new, however, was New Delhi’s new-found aggression in taking on China. It immediately decided to support Hanoi’s claims. By accepting the Vietnamese invitation to explore oil and gas in blocks 127 and 128, India’s state-owned oil company ONGC Videsh Ltd not only expressed New Delhi’s desire to deepen its friendship with Vietnam, but ignored China’s warning to stay away. This display of backbone helped India strengthen its relationship with Vietnam. If China wants to expand its presence in South Asia and the Indian Ocean region, New Delhi’s thinking goes, India can do the same thing in East Asia. And if China can have a strategic partnership with Pakistan ignoring Indian concerns, India can develop robust ties with states like Vietnam on China’s periphery without giving China a veto on such relationships.

Hanoi is gradually becoming the linchpin of this eastward move by New Delhi. Hanoi fought a brief war with Beijing in 1979 and has grown wary of the Middle Kingdom’s increasing economic and military weight. That’s why in some quarters of New Delhi, Vietnam is already seen as a counterweight in the same way Pakistan has been for China.

The Modi government’s decision to sell BrahMos missiles to Vietnam underscores the evolution in India’s policy towards the Indo-Pacific. New Delhi seems to be ready to challenge Beijing on its own turf. And for the moment at least, this stance is being welcomed by states like Vietnam, which fear the growing aggression of China. A more engaged India will also lead to a more stable balance of power in the region.

http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/K4RMcKDJDYtplAwoJcPY9O/Indias-strategic-gambit-in-Vietnam.html
 
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What is more interesting is the transmission of the beast. I'm very curious to know.
Have you ever tried to model your boring looking BMW car into a different thing in order to impress your newfound girl friend? :D

it is a supersized Cadillac with a monster Diesel engine and transmission of a commercial truck.




NewsCarsThe Beast: 10 Things to Know About the President's Limo

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By Andrew Ganz



When President Barack Obama's motorcade pilots its way through our nation's capital today as part of his second inauguration, the world will get one of its best looks at the Cadillaclimousine nicknamed "The Beast."


But President Obama's Cadillac isn't really a Cadillac. In fact, about all it shares with the crested wreath sedans you can buy from your local dealership are some styling cues. Still, The Beast is definitely a sight to behold - and there are few times it is better showcased than during an inaugural.

Not much is actually known about The Beast since it falls under the Secret Service's classified motor pool, but a few specifications and secrets have leaked out over the last few years. We pieced through what we could to provide you with this breakdown of 10 things worth knowing about Cadillac One, Limo One or... The Beast.



10 Things to Know About the President's Limo


1. It isn't a Cadillac. Unlike any presidential state car before it, The Beast shares little in common with a standard production car. Its chassis, diesel engine and transmission are based on those used in the ChevroletKodiak, a rugged commercial vehicle used as everything from a dump truck to a U-Haul truck.

Some standard trim pieces, like headlamps from an Escalade and tail lights from the now-discontinued STS keep it looking vaguely Cadillac-like.

2. It has its own airplane. The Secret Service makes use of a C-17 Globemaster transport aircraft to haul The Beast, a second limo and a heavily armored Chevrolet Suburban communications vehicle, any time the President is traveling. The Suburban is nicknamed Roadrunner and it is said to be a rolling communications office directly linked to a military satellite - hence the SATCOM dome festooned to its roof

3. Calling it armored is an understatement. There is probably not a better-armored vehicle with windows on the planet than The Beast. Its armor plating is said to be 8 inches thick and its doors weigh as much as those on a Boeing 757 aircraft. Five-inch thick bulletproof windows contain at least five layers to put a damper on any effort by subversives. And those gigantic, nearly bus-size Goodyear tires are Kevlar-reinforced run-flats capable of keeping The Beast on the road for quite some distance if needed. The interior is sealed off from the outside world to reduce risks of a chemical attack, while a special foam surrounds the fuel tank to insulate it in the event of an impact.

4. It's exceedingly well-equipped. Pop open The Beast's trunk and it is said that you'll find everything from firefighting equipment and oxygen tanks to a cache of the president's blood type. There are tear gas canisters, shotguns and, supposedly, grenade launchers, integrated into The Beast. The Secret Service has learned a lot since President John F. Kennedy's open-top Lincoln Continental was fired upon on Elm Street in Dallas.

5. It holds seven passengers. At the very least, The Beast has three passengers aboard - the driver, the president's lead Secret Service protective agent in the front passenger seat and, of course, the president himself. However, four additional seats in the back are available - three rearward facing spots on a bench and one spot next to the president for a guest. A folding desk separates the president from his guest's spot.

Somewhat surprisingly, the president's bench is covered in a dark blue cloth rather than leather (although plenty of hide is on board). Shoulder belts that retract toward the center of the bench and buckle into the outboard corners - the reverse of a normal rear seat - are included.

6. The Beast is not alone. The Secret Service actually has a few Beast-like vehicles. Although it's not known whether they're all functionally identical, some look more like a Cadillac DTS than The Beast. The other limousines are used for high-ranking foreign officials and VIP guests when they're in Washington, D.C. It isn't known why the Secret Service rotates between presidential vehicles, however.

In addition, the President sometimes travels in a heavily-armored Chevrolet Suburban or a modified Prevost bus known as Ground Force One rather than The Beast.

7. It runs on diesel. The Beast is believed to use a Duramax diesel engine closely related to that featured under the hood of Chevrolet and GMC's full-size heavy duty pickup trucks. Why diesel? Aside from the durability associated with diesel engines, the fuel has a low volatility that reduces the risk of it exploding - and it can be found everywhere in the world, unlike high quality unleaded fuel.

8. Its pilot is a heck of a driver. Even though The Beast has more in common with a school bus than a sports car, its highly-trained drivers can execute tight J-turns and other police-style evasion techniques in the event of a situation gone south. The Secret Service drivers have undergone extensive training on a secluded site (believed to be a military base) with input from GM engineers and test drivers.

9. Its specs will not impress you. Burdened with lugging a rumored 20,000 lbs. worth of Beast around, the diesel engine isn't a rocket. Hitting 60 mph from a complete stop takes about 15 seconds, which is more than just about any new car we can think of, and the big car's top speed is said to max out at 60 mph. In addition, all that weight makes it a guzzler, sipping fuel at a rate of 8 mpg.

10. This year, it will make a political statement. In a politically-motivated move, President Obama chose to have D.C.'s available Taxation Without Representation license plates installed on The Beast. The White House says that the decision "demonstrates the president's commitment to the principle of full representation for the people of the District of Columbia and his willingness to fight for voting rights, home rule and budget autonomy for the District."

However, it's unlikely that D.C. will gain representation in Congress as long as Republicans are in control.
 
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The missed Vietnam Su-30mk2 pilot found on sea

越南空军失踪的苏30战斗机上一名飞行员的遗体17日在中部义安省附近海域被找到,遗体上当时还覆盖着降落伞。这架苏30战斗机是14日上午在执行训练任务时在越南中部义安省附近海域失踪的,机上共有2名飞行员,其中一名飞行员被当地渔民救起。另一名飞行员陈光凯的遗体是在义安省附近的眼睛岛周边海域被渔民发现的,遗体上覆盖着降落伞。越南连日来曾派出多种力量前往战斗机失踪海域搜寻,16日一架执行搜救任务的CASA型巡逻机失踪,机上载有9人。17日上午,巡逻机残骸被找到,但机上的9人仍处于失踪状态。应越方要求,中国海上搜救中心于16日晚派出“南海救101”号救助船、“海巡21号”船前往北部湾海域,协助搜救失事的越南两架越南飞机。17日,中国海警局派出三艘海警船,中国海军派出四艘舰艇亦赶赴上述海域开展搜救。
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a previous picture of the doomed C-212 aircraft with Mss-6000 airborne maritime surveillance system. the US embassador to Vietnam says America stands by for search and rescue operations. but according to the Coast Guard, there is little hope anyone had survived the crash.


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@anas_nurhafidz
who is that girl? :D



Vietnam said to be interested in getting CN-295 aircraft

Indonesia’s Vice President Jusuf Kalla disclosed that Vietnam is interested in getting the CN-295 transport – a C-295 license-built by Indonesian Aerospace. Kalla said the sales proposal was discussed with Vietnam’s deputy Prime Minister Trinh Dinh Dung in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

http://www.antaranews.com/berita/564929/vietnam-minat-beli-cn-295





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Vietnamese Air Force could be the first customer of the C295 AEW&C aircraft

Vietnam would buy two Airbus C295 AEW&C aircraft, according to Vietnamese Media sources. The procurement comes as a result of the country’s effort to control East China Sea areas, where confrontation with the Chinese military has become a common phenomenon.

http://www.airrecognition.com/index...irst-customer-of-the-c295-aew-c-aircraft.html

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The C295 AEW&C will allow Vietnam to better control its sea borders in a period of heightened tensions with China
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Moreover, the new platforms will improve coordination capabilities with many modern weapon systems acquired during the last years.

According to the same sources, Airbus and ELTA could assist the country in integrating the new platform with the rest of the Vietnamese Armed Forces, including Russian-made ones. The number of the platforms to be acquired could probably be more than two, as the two could probably be not sufficient for the operational requirements.

The primary sensor of the AEW&C will be the IAI/ELTA 4th Generation Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radar with integrated IFF. This follows an agreement signed by Airbus Defence and Space and IAI/ELTA in June 2011 at the Le Bourget Airshow.The C295 AEW&C has been designed to provide high quality 360º surveillance, creating in real-time an integrated Air and Maritime Situation Picture and Electronic Order of Battle. The AEW&C Situation Picture is shared with friendly forces via Network Centric data links.A C295 fitted with a rotodome demonstrator is conducting flight trials from Airbus Defence and Space's Seville facility since 8th June 2011.
 
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@William Hung As per the article above:

According to the same sources, Airbus and ELTA could assist the country in integrating the new platform with the rest of the Vietnamese Armed Forces, including Russian-made ones. The number of the platforms to be acquired could probably be more than two, as the two could probably be not sufficient for the operational requirements.
 
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Our hero, colonel Trần Quang Khải , trainer of jetplane Su 30MK . He has sacrificed his life for homeland, for our country is existed forver.

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His daughtor
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and his wife.
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His camrades.
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A post from the Ministry of National Defense of China: China deploys 8 ships and 3 planes to help Vietnam find the missing jets. What China puts for the rescue efforts are:
- four ships from the Navy
- three coast guard ships
- one salvage tug
- one fixed wing plane and one chopper from the Navy
- one fixed wing plane from the Air Force

Hope the missing crews could be found soon.

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Dirty money. Dirty history. South Korean economic rise was largely thanked to the money she received from the United States because of her participation of the Vietnam war. the longer the war the more South Korea received the US Dollars. she was the one who promoted aggression. do we need an apology? the Koreans are similar to the Japanese, they rather commit suicide than regret anything. different country different culture. Anyway I don´t think we need a sorry, not only because it is up to them if they want to apologize, but it does not bring the deaths to life. if they want they can increase trades and investments to Vietnam.



When Will President Park Apologize to The Vietnamese People?
By Sara Williams June 9, 2016

South Korea was the second only to the United States as the largest foreign military contingent in Vietnam during the 1960’s war.


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(Newswire.net -- June 9, 2016) -- The first step to apologizing is to admit to one’s actions and take responsibility for them. President Park has still to do so for her country’s past actions in foreign wars.


Retracing history, South Korea led by strongman President Park Chung-hee, the sitting president’s father, sent over 320,000 soldiers to fight in the Vietnam War. They came from the ROK Army and ROK Marine Corps. The first troops arrived in 1964 and for nine years until 1973, they inflicted all sorts of brutality on the Vietnamese. Among the US allies, South Korea was the largest military contingent in Vietnam, second only to the United States Forces. The official line for helping the US was to repay them for defending South Korea in the Korean War and to solidify military alliance between the two countries.

Now it can be told that financial incentives were also a key consideration for Park to send his troops to Vietnam. It is said he even campaigned hard for the war to continue. The Johnson and Nixon administration gave over tens of billions of dollars for the soldiers but all the money was coursed through Park. Most of it was used to realize the dictator’s ambitious economic development program. Hence, from being one of the poorest countries in the 1950s, the Republic of Korea experienced rapid growth in its economy starting in the 1960s.

When the South Korean military were in Vietnam, they were given carte blanche to do as they wished. The only goal was to vanquish the enemy. And they did so, in the most inhumane of methods. The “enemy” for them was anyone Vietnam. Unarmed men, helpless women and children, and the elderly were not spared. Their stories were only revealed forty years after the war ended, when a Korean graduate student studying in a university in Hanoi became curious about the accounts she heard and started digging them up. The untold tales of massacres of entire villages were finally revealed in her articles that saw publication in a weekly newsmagazine.

Shocked and disgusted that her fellow countrymen were capable of such despicable acts, she got help in putting up the Korean-Vietnamese Peace Foundation with the aim of fostering healing of the Vietnam people survivors of war and establishing a peaceful coexistence among other people.

The stories of the Vietnam comfort women came later. It seems the Korean soldiers were not content with killing the weak and defenseless. They assaulted and raped thousands of the women, then left them with their children. Born of mixed blood, the children are called Lai Dai Han and live in the margins of society, scorned and ridiculed.

Statesmen and civic groups are asking for an apology for the Vietnam victims. But Park Geun-hye chooses to be silent, not admitting to the crimes perpetrated during her father’s regime. In the domestic arena, he was already ruthless on his opponents. In the Vietnam War, he condoned the acts of his soldiers because it is not possible for him to be unaware of what was going on. His daughter, an ultra-conservative, is bent on protecting the country’s integrity and her own father’s name.

In Vietnam on a state visit in 2013, Park laid flowers on the mausoleum of Ho Chi Minh, the North Vietnam president and chairman of the Communist Party. But nary a word was said about the war. In 2001, when President Kim Dae-jung apologized to Vietnam for the acts of his people, Park criticized him for bringing shame to South Korea.

Behind the scenes, she is pushing for the government to take charge of the production of history books for schools. There are fears that it will be revised to put Park Chung-hee in a better light. In her autobiography, she wrote “The slander against my father continued, and I couldn’t just stand by and watch. As I saw it, my father had no personal ambition other than for his country, the Republic of Korea.”

The latest insensitivity shown by Ms. Park is her praise of the Korean TV series “Descendants of the Sun,” set in a war-torn country where a Korean officer falls in love with a doctor with a peacekeeping mission. There have been debates over whether it will bother Vietnam people because it will bring back memories of the war. But Park is encouraging its showing in other countries to promote tourism.

Pres. Park always puts her own interests first. In 1960, her father received $800 million from Japan in the form of soft loans, grants and trusts. Last December, she was able to obtain another apology from Japan for the Korean comfort women and an $8.3 million payment for the victims. But she is her father’s daughter and it will be surprising if she acknowledges the sins of her country and apologize to the Vietnam people. Still, stranger things have happened.

Source: http://newswire.net/newsroom/oped/00092876-when-will-president-park-apologize-to-the-vietnamese-people.html
 
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KZKT-7428 truck tractors arrived in Vietnam. So probably the rumours about T-90 is real after all. :)
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Interesting. After years of rumours. Do you know how many trucks? Is it Haiphong sea port?


just looking up the specs of Kzkt-7428. it can carry a load of 70 tons, range of 700 km, top Speed 65 kmh. good enough for a T-90 or a howitzer. our panzer corps need a lot of these transporters, just inducting one or two panzer divisions.

@Carlosa


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