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the Navy follows international practice. most of navies in the world have just numbers on ship wall. so does the Coast Guard. the letter CSB (Marine Police) is abandoned. look at the recent news: the Coast Guard receives 4 new boats built by Hồng Hà shipyard: TT-400. length 54 m, wide 9,3 m, weight 425 tons. bringing the total number of TT-400 vessels to 9.
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The sub is designed to be operational where large subs can't like low depth near land/islands...
It is good for Vietnam, cheap and its design is suited for hit and run.
First unit is 50 million euro's which is 53-54 million USD, when serial production starts it will get cheaper.
I heard Phillipines and that country in the eat who is Armenian neighbour are interested.
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interesting. not a common speaker, but a General of the Armed Forces announces the news, Lieutenant General Vo Tien Trung: Nguyen Phu Trong has been nominated to be the Party boss again, while four other candidates, including the actual Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung, have withdrawn from the election. however, he adds the delegates can nominate any of the four who have turned down their earlier nomination.
maybe Vietnam is ready for a change: a women on the top position, as seen in Korean and Taiwan: Deputy Chairwoman of the National Assembly Nguyen Thi Kim Ngan. she is one of the 4 candidates that have been nominated.
the women in red.
30 August, 2015
Japan's Prime Shinzo Abe (2nd from left) eats Japanese confectionery with his wife Akie (Centre), Liberia's President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf (Left), Vietnam's Deputy Chairwoman of the National Assembly Nguyen Thi Kim Ngan (2nd from right) and US Ambassador to Japan Caroline Kennedy (Right) during a tea ceremony presentation at the World Assembly for Women conference in Tokyo yesterday. Japan kicked off the two-day "World Assembly for Women" conference on Friday. AFP PHOTO
interesting. not a common speaker, but a General of the Armed Forces announces the news, Lieutenant General Vo Tien Trung: Nguyen Phu Trong has been nominated to be the Party boss again, while four other candidates, including the actual Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung, have withdrawn from the election. however, he adds the delegates can nominate any of the four who have turned down their earlier nomination.
maybe Vietnam is ready for a change: a women on the top position, as seen in Korean and Taiwan: Deputy Chairwoman of the National Assembly Nguyen Thi Kim Ngan. she is one of the 4 candidates that have been nominated.
the women in red.
30 August, 2015
Japan's Prime Shinzo Abe (2nd from left) eats Japanese confectionery with his wife Akie (Centre), Liberia's President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf (Left), Vietnam's Deputy Chairwoman of the National Assembly Nguyen Thi Kim Ngan (2nd from right) and US Ambassador to Japan Caroline Kennedy (Right) during a tea ceremony presentation at the World Assembly for Women conference in Tokyo yesterday. Japan kicked off the two-day "World Assembly for Women" conference on Friday. AFP PHOTO
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some more details on the satellite project with India
World | Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:22am GMT
Related: World
India to build satellite tracking station in Vietnam that offers eye on China
NEW DELHI/HONG KONG | By Sanjeev Miglani and Greg Torode
A ship (top) of the Chinese Coast Guard is seen near a ship of the Vietnam Marine Guard in the South China Sea, about 210 km (130 miles) off the shore of Vietnam, in this May 14, 2014 file photo. Reuters/Nguyen Minh/Files
NEW DELHI/HONG KONG India will set up a satellite tracking and imaging centre in southern Vietnam that will give Hanoi access to pictures from Indian earth observation satellites that cover the region, including China and the South China Sea, Indian officials said.
The move, which could irritate Beijing, deepens ties between India and Vietnam, who both have long-running territorial disputes with China.
While billed as a civilian facility - earth observation satellites have agricultural, scientific and environmental applications - security experts said improved imaging technology meant the pictures
could also be used for military purposes.
Hanoi especially has been looking for advanced intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance technologies as tensions rise with China over the disputed South China Sea, they said.
"In military terms, this move could be quite significant," said Collin Koh, a marine security expert at Singapore's S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies. "It looks like a win-win for both sides, filling significant holes for the Vietnamese and expanding the range for the Indians."
The state-run Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) will fund and set up the satellite tracking and data reception centre in Ho Chi Minh City to monitor Indian satellite launches, the Indian officials said. Indian media put the cost at around $23 million.
India, whose 54-year-old space programme is accelerating, with one satellite launch scheduled every month, has ground stations in the Andaman and Nicobar islands, Brunei, Biak in eastern Indonesia and Mauritius that track its satellites in the initial stages of flight.
The Vietnam facility will bolster those capabilities, said Deviprasad Karnik, an ISRO spokesman.
India earth observation satellite
QUID PRO QUO
But unlike the other overseas stations, the facility will also be equipped to receive images from India's earth observation satellites that Vietnam can use in return for granting India the tracking site, said an Indian government official connected with the space programme.
"This is a sort of quid pro quo which will enable Vietnam to receive IRS (Indian remote sensing) pictures directly, that is, without asking India," said the official, who declined to be identified because he was not authorised to speak to the media.
"Obviously it will include parts of China of interest to Vietnam."
Chinese coastal naval bases, the operations of its coastguard and navy and its new man-made islands in the disputed Spratly archipelago of the South China Sea would be targets of Vietnamese interest, security experts said.
Another Indian official said New Delhi would also have access to the imagery.
India has 11 earth observation satellites in orbit, offering pictures with differing resolutions and areas, the ISRO said. Indian officials had no timeframe for when the centre would be operational. "This is at the beginning stages, we are still in dialogue with Vietnamese authorities," said Karnik.
Vietnam's Foreign Ministry confirmed the project, but provided few other details.
China's Defence Ministry said the proposed tracking station wasn't a military issue. The Chinese Foreign Ministry had no immediate comment.
Vietnam launched its first earth observation satellite in 2013, but Koh said it was not thought to produce particularly high resolution images.
BLURRED LINES
Security experts said Vietnam would likely seek real-time access to images from the Indian satellites as well as training in imagery analysis, a specialised intelligence field.
"The advance of technology means the lines are blurring between civilian and military satellites," said Trevor Hollingsbee, a retired naval intelligence analyst with Britain's Defence Ministry. "In some cases, the imagery from a modern civilian satellite is good enough for military use."
Sophisticated military reconnaissance satellites can be used to capture military signals and communications, as well as detailed photographs of objects on land, capturing detail to less than a metre, Koh and other experts said.
The tracking station will be the first such foreign facility in Vietnam and follows other agreements between Hanoi and New Delhi that have cemented security ties.
India has extended a $100 million credit line for Hanoi to buy patrol boats and is training Vietnamese submariners in India while Hanoi has granted oil exploration blocks to India in waters off Vietnam that are disputed with China.
Under Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India has shown a greater willingness to step up security ties with countries such as Vietnam, overriding concerns this would upset China, military officials said.
"You want to engage Vietnam in every sphere. The reason is obvious - China," said retired Indian Air Force group captain Ajay Lele at the New Delhi-based Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses.
Both India and Vietnam are also modernising their militaries in the face of Beijing's growing assertiveness, having separately fought wars with China in past decades.
Australian-based scholar Carl Thayer, who has studied Vietnam's military since the late 1960s, said the satellite tracking facility showed both nations wanted to enhance security ties. "Their interests are converging over China and the South China Sea," he said.
(Additional reporting by Megha Rajagopalan in Beijing and Ho Binh Minh in Hanoi; Editing by Dean Yates)
World | Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:22am GMT
Related: World
India to build satellite tracking station in Vietnam that offers eye on China
NEW DELHI/HONG KONG | By Sanjeev Miglani and Greg Torode
A ship (top) of the Chinese Coast Guard is seen near a ship of the Vietnam Marine Guard in the South China Sea, about 210 km (130 miles) off the shore of Vietnam, in this May 14, 2014 file photo. Reuters/Nguyen Minh/Files
NEW DELHI/HONG KONG India will set up a satellite tracking and imaging centre in southern Vietnam that will give Hanoi access to pictures from Indian earth observation satellites that cover the region, including China and the South China Sea, Indian officials said.
The move, which could irritate Beijing, deepens ties between India and Vietnam, who both have long-running territorial disputes with China.
While billed as a civilian facility - earth observation satellites have agricultural, scientific and environmental applications - security experts said improved imaging technology meant the pictures
could also be used for military purposes.Hanoi especially has been looking for advanced intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance technologies as tensions rise with China over the disputed South China Sea, they said.
"In military terms, this move could be quite significant," said Collin Koh, a marine security expert at Singapore's S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies. "It looks like a win-win for both sides, filling significant holes for the Vietnamese and expanding the range for the Indians."
The state-run Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) will fund and set up the satellite tracking and data reception centre in Ho Chi Minh City to monitor Indian satellite launches, the Indian officials said. Indian media put the cost at around $23 million.
India, whose 54-year-old space programme is accelerating, with one satellite launch scheduled every month, has ground stations in the Andaman and Nicobar islands, Brunei, Biak in eastern Indonesia and Mauritius that track its satellites in the initial stages of flight.
The Vietnam facility will bolster those capabilities, said Deviprasad Karnik, an ISRO spokesman.
India earth observation satellite
QUID PRO QUO
But unlike the other overseas stations, the facility will also be equipped to receive images from India's earth observation satellites that Vietnam can use in return for granting India the tracking site, said an Indian government official connected with the space programme.
"This is a sort of quid pro quo which will enable Vietnam to receive IRS (Indian remote sensing) pictures directly, that is, without asking India," said the official, who declined to be identified because he was not authorised to speak to the media.
"Obviously it will include parts of China of interest to Vietnam."
Chinese coastal naval bases, the operations of its coastguard and navy and its new man-made islands in the disputed Spratly archipelago of the South China Sea would be targets of Vietnamese interest, security experts said.
Another Indian official said New Delhi would also have access to the imagery.
India has 11 earth observation satellites in orbit, offering pictures with differing resolutions and areas, the ISRO said. Indian officials had no timeframe for when the centre would be operational. "This is at the beginning stages, we are still in dialogue with Vietnamese authorities," said Karnik.
Vietnam's Foreign Ministry confirmed the project, but provided few other details.
China's Defence Ministry said the proposed tracking station wasn't a military issue. The Chinese Foreign Ministry had no immediate comment.
Vietnam launched its first earth observation satellite in 2013, but Koh said it was not thought to produce particularly high resolution images
.BLURRED LINES
Security experts said Vietnam would likely seek real-time access to images from the Indian satellites as well as training in imagery analysis, a specialised intelligence field.
"The advance of technology means the lines are blurring between civilian and military satellites," said Trevor Hollingsbee, a retired naval intelligence analyst with Britain's Defence Ministry. "In some cases, the imagery from a modern civilian satellite is good enough for military use."
Sophisticated military reconnaissance satellites can be used to capture military signals and communications, as well as detailed photographs of objects on land, capturing detail to less than a metre, Koh and other experts said.
The tracking station will be the first such foreign facility in Vietnam and follows other agreements between Hanoi and New Delhi that have cemented security ties.
India has extended a $100 million credit line for Hanoi to buy patrol boats and is training Vietnamese submariners in India while Hanoi has granted oil exploration blocks to India in waters off Vietnam that are disputed with China.
Under Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India has shown a greater willingness to step up security ties with countries such as Vietnam, overriding concerns this would upset China, military officials said.
"You want to engage Vietnam in every sphere. The reason is obvious - China," said retired Indian Air Force group captain Ajay Lele at the New Delhi-based Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses.
Both India and Vietnam are also modernising their militaries in the face of Beijing's growing assertiveness, having separately fought wars with China in past decades.
Australian-based scholar Carl Thayer, who has studied Vietnam's military since the late 1960s, said the satellite tracking facility showed both nations wanted to enhance security ties. "Their interests are converging over China and the South China Sea," he said.
(Additional reporting by Megha Rajagopalan in Beijing and Ho Binh Minh in Hanoi; Editing by Dean Yates)
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hm...despite tension, at least one thing keeps progressing: bilateral trade. assuming the figure is correct, the VN-CN trade turnover has risen by 50% to $90 billion. that is remarkable if one considers the two way trade of China to their "friend" Russia collapsed by nearly 30 per cent last year 2015, to $64.2 billion.
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Longtime rivals: A look at complex Vietnam-China ties
Copyright 2016 The Associated Press
By Christopher Bodeen | AP January 24
BEIJING — Divided opinions within Vietnam’s Communist Party on how to relate to giant neighbor and one-time ally China are among key factors in play at an eight-day congress to choose new leadership. A look at the countries’ shared history and some of the most recent ups and downs in relations.
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LONGTIME RIVALS
Vietnam and China have a complex relationship going back more than 2,000 years, including several periods of Chinese imperial occupation that were ended by Vietnamese uprisings. Despite its early support for the Vietnamese Communist Party, China invaded in 1979 in retaliation for Hanoi’s overthrow of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Diplomatic ties were restored in 1991, but tensions have risen in recent years due to competing claims to islands and reefs in the South China Sea.
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KEEPING WATCH
China is closely observing the party congress and has emphasized the importance of China-Vietnam relations, including $90 billion in bilateral trade last year. “As a good neighbor, friend, comrade and partner to Vietnam, we wish to advance the overall strategic relationship into a new stage on the basis of long-term stability, forward thinking and good neighborliness,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said Friday. “We also wish to work with Vietnam to appropriately control maritime disputes with Vietnam so as to safeguard the maritime stability.”
___
OIL RIG DISPUTE
In May 2014, China parked a huge oil drilling platform off the Vietnamese coast in an area where the two countries’ exclusive economic zones overlap. Vietnam furiously denounced the move and sent fishing boats and coast guard vessels to harass the rig and nearby Chinese vessels. Skirmishes led to collisions and the capsizing of at least one Vietnamese boat, while in Vietnam anti-Chinese rioting and the looting of Chinese and other foreign-owned factories left at least four Chinese citizens dead.
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CHINA’S OUTREACH
Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi visited Vietnam in June 2014 to try to contain the oil rig dispute. Despite receiving a frosty reception from Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung, escalation was avoided. More significantly, the oil rig incident nudged Vietnam closer to its old enemy the United States, which later that year partially lifted an arms embargo specifically to help improve Vietnam’s maritime security.
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COMPETING CLAIMS
China withdrew the rig in July 2014, one month ahead of schedule, saying it had completed its mission. The confrontation is widely seen as part of a Chinese strategy to strengthen its footprint in the South China Sea, all or part of which is also claimed by Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia and Brunei. The incident also focuses renewed attention on a perceived split within the Vietnamese Communist Party between pro- and anti-China factions.
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VIETNAM VISITS
Following a prolonged chill, Communist Party chief Nguyen Phu Trong (pronounced NEW-yen FOO CHONG) led a delegation to Beijing in April 2015 and was greeted by President Xi Jinping with full military honors at the Great Hall of the People. Though little of substance resulted from the four-day trip visit, it is seen as helping get relations back on track.
___
MENDING TIES
China’s Xi made a state visit to Vietnam in November 2015, during which he and Trong agree to limit their differences and maintain peace and stability. Xi said China will “strive together with Vietnam to control differences at sea.” Trong proposed that neither side take actions that increase tensions. During the visit, about 30 people protested briefly in front of the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi. Xi also addressed Vietnam’s National Assembly, but avoided mentioning the South China Sea and the 1979 war.
___
TENSIONS RENEWED
Vietnam protested to China in January over a test flight to a new airstrip on one of Beijing’s man-made island in the disputed Spratly Islands. Vietnam Foreign Ministry spokesman Le Hai Binh demanded an end to such flights, saying they violate Vietnam’s sovereignty and hurt bilateral relations. China responded that the flights fall “completely within China’s sovereignty.” Days later, China conducted two more test flights. The South China Sea dispute looks only to grow more complex as China completes infrastructure on its newly created islands and boosts its maritime defense forces beyond anything its rival claimants can muster.
Asia & Pacific
Longtime rivals: A look at complex Vietnam-China ties
Copyright 2016 The Associated Press
By Christopher Bodeen | AP January 24
BEIJING — Divided opinions within Vietnam’s Communist Party on how to relate to giant neighbor and one-time ally China are among key factors in play at an eight-day congress to choose new leadership. A look at the countries’ shared history and some of the most recent ups and downs in relations.
___
LONGTIME RIVALS
Vietnam and China have a complex relationship going back more than 2,000 years, including several periods of Chinese imperial occupation that were ended by Vietnamese uprisings. Despite its early support for the Vietnamese Communist Party, China invaded in 1979 in retaliation for Hanoi’s overthrow of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Diplomatic ties were restored in 1991, but tensions have risen in recent years due to competing claims to islands and reefs in the South China Sea.
___
KEEPING WATCH
China is closely observing the party congress and has emphasized the importance of China-Vietnam relations, including $90 billion in bilateral trade last year. “As a good neighbor, friend, comrade and partner to Vietnam, we wish to advance the overall strategic relationship into a new stage on the basis of long-term stability, forward thinking and good neighborliness,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said Friday. “We also wish to work with Vietnam to appropriately control maritime disputes with Vietnam so as to safeguard the maritime stability.”
___
OIL RIG DISPUTE
In May 2014, China parked a huge oil drilling platform off the Vietnamese coast in an area where the two countries’ exclusive economic zones overlap. Vietnam furiously denounced the move and sent fishing boats and coast guard vessels to harass the rig and nearby Chinese vessels. Skirmishes led to collisions and the capsizing of at least one Vietnamese boat, while in Vietnam anti-Chinese rioting and the looting of Chinese and other foreign-owned factories left at least four Chinese citizens dead.
___
CHINA’S OUTREACH
Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi visited Vietnam in June 2014 to try to contain the oil rig dispute. Despite receiving a frosty reception from Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung, escalation was avoided. More significantly, the oil rig incident nudged Vietnam closer to its old enemy the United States, which later that year partially lifted an arms embargo specifically to help improve Vietnam’s maritime security.
___
COMPETING CLAIMS
China withdrew the rig in July 2014, one month ahead of schedule, saying it had completed its mission. The confrontation is widely seen as part of a Chinese strategy to strengthen its footprint in the South China Sea, all or part of which is also claimed by Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia and Brunei. The incident also focuses renewed attention on a perceived split within the Vietnamese Communist Party between pro- and anti-China factions.
___
VIETNAM VISITS
Following a prolonged chill, Communist Party chief Nguyen Phu Trong (pronounced NEW-yen FOO CHONG) led a delegation to Beijing in April 2015 and was greeted by President Xi Jinping with full military honors at the Great Hall of the People. Though little of substance resulted from the four-day trip visit, it is seen as helping get relations back on track.
___
MENDING TIES
China’s Xi made a state visit to Vietnam in November 2015, during which he and Trong agree to limit their differences and maintain peace and stability. Xi said China will “strive together with Vietnam to control differences at sea.” Trong proposed that neither side take actions that increase tensions. During the visit, about 30 people protested briefly in front of the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi. Xi also addressed Vietnam’s National Assembly, but avoided mentioning the South China Sea and the 1979 war.
___
TENSIONS RENEWED
Vietnam protested to China in January over a test flight to a new airstrip on one of Beijing’s man-made island in the disputed Spratly Islands. Vietnam Foreign Ministry spokesman Le Hai Binh demanded an end to such flights, saying they violate Vietnam’s sovereignty and hurt bilateral relations. China responded that the flights fall “completely within China’s sovereignty.” Days later, China conducted two more test flights. The South China Sea dispute looks only to grow more complex as China completes infrastructure on its newly created islands and boosts its maritime defense forces beyond anything its rival claimants can muster.
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a german press agency reports (not only this one): the fight is over. Nguyen Tan Dung fails to get enough support to become the next communist party chief. he will probably retire from politics when the tenure as prime minister ends.
http://www.dw.com/de/machtkampf-in-vietnam-entschieden/a-19004474
http://www.dw.com/de/machtkampf-in-vietnam-entschieden/a-19004474
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a german press agency reports (not only this one): the fight is over. Nguyen Tan Dung fails to get enough support to become the next communist party chief. he will probably retire from politics when the tenure as prime minister ends.
http://www.dw.com/de/machtkampf-in-vietnam-entschieden/a-19004474
So... What does it mean? Is that guy pro China?
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no, he isn´t. he once said during the oil rig crisis, Vietnam will never trade its sovereignty for a false friendship with China. he reportely never sets a foot on China. maybe the chinese don´t like him, never inviting him to the country, because the chinese only like foot licker. not patriot like him.
“There is a vast gap between the words and deeds of China,”
“We always wish for peace and friendship, but those things must be based on independence, self-reliance, sovereignty and territorial integrity. We will never trade these sacred things for a certain false and dependent peace and friendship” .
http://www.thanhniennews.com/politi...overeignty-for-false-friendship-pm-26578.html
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He will be replaced by a moderate leader.
Nguyen Tan Dung is a nationalistic Vietnamese leader and had been pro-US, pro-Japan, and openly anti-China. I suppose and predict his successor will be more "moderate" and inclusivistic in regards to China.
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Nguyen Tan Dung is already pretty moderate and liberal among those dinosaurs Communist politburo members. This guy was a soldier for 23 years and was wounded 4 times during the Viet Nam war. There no more world leaders like him anymore (not a crappy talker who send others to war). I guess he know the Chinese better than anyone from the 60s till the 1979 invasion and aftermath. And all the double faces of the Chinese communist party. He is also a Southern guy, considering most politburo are of from North and still close to China
Thanks for the appraisal bro! So do you have an idea or guess on who might succeed Mr. Nguyen? Thanks!
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