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Video: A glimp of Chinese version ChatGPT:ERNIE Bot. Not as good as ChatGPT but has potential

Not Wut.

About from a hand writing to a http web site, you have imagine recognition software, image processing software mathlab, then coding it using Java library, code library. Then from there convert to still images or video: image compression jpeg, video compression mpeg.
Ok that’s great though, but I would not say revolutionary, more an evolution. It’s the combination of everything. Chips run faster more powerful. Sure that makes life easier.

It's revolutionary because it's going to disrupt millions of jobs across different sectors of the economy. The value created is worth much more than $10 per month.

 
ChatGPT can give advise on coding but try asking it to write entire Windows OS and see how?

It can replace a lot of jobs for example, accountant, legal, medical diagnostic...etc
 
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Keep trying China!

It will be impossible for China to catch up much less surpass the US in AI since the most advanced AI GPUs are built by Nvidia, and Nvidia is dominant in AI hardware.
 
It will be impossible for China to catch up much less surpass the US in AI since the most advanced AI GPUs are built by Nvidia, and Nvidia is dominant in AI hardware.
I don't think it's impossible, just a matter of trying harder.
 
It will be impossible for China to catch up much less surpass the US in AI since the most advanced AI GPUs are built by Nvidia, and Nvidia is dominant in AI hardware.

I don't think it's impossible, just a matter of trying harder.


If you look at the names in the list of contributors of GPT-4, you will realize that they come from a diverse background of different races, and likely of different nationalities as well. Even on the hardware side, the most advanced AI GPUs are built by Nvidia, a company founded by a Taiwanese immigrant. That's the key competitive advantage of America which China don't have; the ability to attract and retain talent of different color, culture and language from all over the world (including from China).

China's talent pool catchment may be 1.4bil people, but the US's talent pool catchment is 8bil people.

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ChatGPT is also trained by data and users from all over the world, and mainly in English. English is by far the world's most dominant language on the internet, representing 59% of online content. The best and most available content of many academic fields (such as physics, chemistry, biology, computer, math, economics, finance etc) are most likely in English. With the English language, you are also able to access direct news content from Singapore to the US without censorship or filtering.

An AI model trained by reading Reddit and watching YouTube is going to be different from an AI trained by reading Weibo and watching Bilibili. All these with more advanced chips to help the AI learn faster by itself.

I'm not saying it's impossible for China to create its own version of GPT-4, but it's unlikely that they can catch up or surpass the US in this area. It's like the semiconductors where the US still retains its lead despite efforts by China to catch up. But the difference is, AI is very much a winner-takes-all contest. For the rest of the world, we will obviously adopt whichever superior AI available to enhance our productivity, which in turn further reinforces the superior AI's dominant position in data access and learning. A society which adopts the better AI is going to be more productive than a similar society which adopts a subpar AI.
 
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If you look at the names in the list of contributors of GPT-4, you will realize that they come from a diverse background of different races, and likely of different nationalities as well. Even on the hardware side, the most advanced AI GPUs are built by Nvidia, a company founded by a Taiwanese immigrant. That's the key competitive advantage of America which China don't have; the ability to attract and retain talent of different color, culture and language from all over the world (including from China).

China's talent pool catchment may be 1.4bil people, but the US's talent pool catchment is 8bil people.

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ChatGPT is also trained by data and users from all over the world, and mainly in English. English is by far the world's most dominant language on the internet, representing 59% of online content. The best and most available content of many academic fields (such as physics, chemistry, biology, computer, math, economics, finance etc) are most likely in English. With the English language, you are also able to access direct news content from Singapore to the US without censorship or filtering.

An AI model trained by reading Reddit and watching YouTube is going to be different from an AI trained by reading Weibo and watching Bilibili. All these with more advanced chips to help the AI learn faster by itself.

I'm not saying it's impossible for China to create its own version of GPT-4, but it's unlikely that they can catch up or surpass the US in this area. It's like the semiconductors where the US still retains its lead despite efforts by China to catch up. But the difference is, AI is very much a winner-takes-all contest. For the rest of the world, we will obviously adopt whichever superior AI available to enhance our productivity, which in turn further reinforces the superior AI's dominant position in data access and learning. A society which adopts the better AI is going to be more productive than a similar society which adopts a subpar AI.
It's pretty obvious you are not in the field.
 
I'm not saying it's impossible for China to create its own version of GPT-4, but it's unlikely that they can catch up or surpass the US in this area.

These early AI programs will go the PC/Microsoft Windows route of getting so entrenched in so many industries around the World that they will be extremely difficult to pull out with a competing system.

I'm sure they will start with some kind of exclusive deals to get the latest direct feeds to news, medical, engineering, manufacturing, and other journals that it will be impossible to outdo them.

Just imagine you have an app on your phone which is your "protector app". This app keeps an eye out for problems. You chat with it every day.

Somebody submits a paper to some medical journal saying X was found to be a carcinogen and next thing your app is telling you that it is likely you have been exposed to X 15 years ago when you worked at some job doing Y.

You buy some strawberries at the store and there is a news report saying there was some bacteria contamination of Guatemala strawberries. Your app asks (or already knows) if you bought any strawberries lately and if so show it the box. You show it the box and it recognized it as being sourced from Guatemala..it then tells you not to eat it.

You show your app of a video of you walking in your house. It notices you own a fan that was recalled 5 years ago due to being a fire hazard.

You park your car on the street to grab a sandwich and you show your app the surroundings. The app says there is a van 20 spaces away with blacked out windows and this area is known for car breakins so maybe not a good idea to park here.

You walk into the store anyway and your app says this business has been complained to police for fraud 10 times in the last 60 days.

How are you going to top something like that?
 
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If you look at the names in the list of contributors of GPT-4, you will realize that they come from a diverse background of different races, and likely of different nationalities as well. Even on the hardware side, the most advanced AI GPUs are built by Nvidia, a company founded by a Taiwanese immigrant. That's the key competitive advantage of America which China don't have; the ability to attract and retain talent of different color, culture and language from all over the world (including from China).

China's talent pool catchment may be 1.4bil people, but the US's talent pool catchment is 8bil people.

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ChatGPT is also trained by data and users from all over the world, and mainly in English. English is by far the world's most dominant language on the internet, representing 59% of online content. The best and most available content of many academic fields (such as physics, chemistry, biology, computer, math, economics, finance etc) are most likely in English. With the English language, you are also able to access direct news content from Singapore to the US without censorship or filtering.

An AI model trained by reading Reddit and watching YouTube is going to be different from an AI trained by reading Weibo and watching Bilibili. All these with more advanced chips to help the AI learn faster by itself.

I'm not saying it's impossible for China to create its own version of GPT-4, but it's unlikely that they can catch up or surpass the US in this area. It's like the semiconductors where the US still retains its lead despite efforts by China to catch up. But the difference is, AI is very much a winner-takes-all contest. For the rest of the world, we will obviously adopt whichever superior AI available to enhance our productivity, which in turn further reinforces the superior AI's dominant position in data access and learning. A society which adopts the better AI is going to be more productive than a similar society which adopts a subpar AI.

US is also a big talent destroyer by putting MBA on top engineers.

Meanwhile China is very good at using 2nd tier talent, empowering them, making them senior managers, and then beating US in the game. Huawei is helm by top R&D, including their sales.

Ren Zhengfei do not trust MBAs.
 
US is also a big talent destroyer by putting MBA on top engineers.

Meanwhile China is very good at using 2nd tier talent, empowering them, making them senior managers, and then beating US in the game. Huawei is helm by top R&D, including their sales.

Ren Zhengfei do not trust MBAs.

LOL! That's not necessarily true.
So many wild generalizations by the Vietnamese here.

Some famous past/present tech CEO's that are "do'ers" who do not hold MBA's..in fact many were University dropouts.

Sam Altman: CEO of OpenAI
Steve Jobs: CEO Apple
Elon Musk: CEO Tesla, SpaceX
Jeff Bezos: CEO Amazon
Bill Gates: CEO Microsoft
Sergey Bryn: CEO of Google/Alphabet
Jensen Huang: CEO Nvidia
Larry Ellison: CEO Oracle
Mark Zuckerberg: CEO Facebook
Jack Dorsey: CEO Twitter
Pat Gelsinger: CEO Intel
Cristiano Amon: CEO Qualcomm
Lisa Su: CEO AMD
Rich Templeton: CEO Texas Instruments
Sanjay Mehrotra: CEO Micron

Maybe established companies (like GM) looking for efficiency hire MBA's.

MBA CEO's:
Warren Buffett: CEO Berkshire Hathaway
Tim Cook: CEO Apple
Mary Barra: CEO GM
Jim Farley: CEO Ford
 
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I will be glad if you can point out my misassumptions.
I can't get into details of chatGPT due to NDA, but the two assumptions you make are off the mark. 1, China is definitely not lacking in talent. In fact, majority of the ground breaking publications in the field are from China. 2, These models are trained on every language. US bots will train on Chinese language content in bilibili and the Chinese bots will definitely train on youtube.
 
I can't get into details of chatGPT due to NDA, but the two assumptions you make are off the mark. 1, China is definitely not lacking in talent. In fact, majority of the ground breaking publications in the field are from China. 2, These models are trained on every language. US bots will train on Chinese language content in bilibili and the Chinese bots will definitely train on youtube.

Then in your opinion, will China catch up and surpass the US in this area eventually?
 
The most important factor of how good AI is other than algorithm is

-- training -> total number of dataset


The GPT algo is revealed. Now China knows this is good. Next is it will take a few months of training.
yep , feed it sh!t and it will regurgitate more sh!t,
 
One, it is fed by tons of encyclopedias, books, articles, open sources. Two, it has a similar algorithm like google. It scans the internet, indexing the words, putting them in contexts.

Can you explain to me what encyclopedias or books would give it the insight to be able to answer a crazy conversation like this.

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LOL, after getting it really irritated it has now turned to being condescending...
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Disagree. From what the video presented, ERNIE Bot is not bad at all. Just it is dwarfed by Chatgpt. But I can see it has potential. Once again, China is the only country that challenges US domination in another new field. EU and Janpan are all standing there doing nothing.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but... All I can say is that Baidu is foolish for trying to boost their stock valuation with this before the thing is ready.
 

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