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Usman Dar Arrested - PTI Sialkot Jalsa

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Bajwa actually helped IK gain the popularity he would never have had next year in elections.Now he is likely to get 2/3rd required to move the country from stand still... It was all part of the plan.you idiots wont understand the game played at the backend.
Man, Sometimes I do like to convince myself by explaining this stupid narrative.
 
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A few in the PK Army in the most senior circles are in serious trouble. Things are unraveling fast and I am afraid we are likely to see a major split in the PK Army (which already exists). The China and US tug is ripping Pakistan in opposite directions. PK Establishment has deep and long seated links with the US Establishment. We are witnessing the first time in Pakistan's history a threat to that link, and hence the situation we find ourselves in. Things are going from bad to worse.

Judging by your assessment the pro US establishment is not ready to back down hence Sri Lanka type situation unravelling very fast, very dangerous times ahead.
 
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Pmln is getting panic much earlier than I thought. Every julsa moving forward will make PTI more aggressive.

They know they did treason.

These Ghaddars can not fool the nation much longer.

The entire reason these criminal fiefdoms exist is because their daddy America has protected them by sponsering NRO's to protect American interests.
 
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So no one from Western country will write articles over the Political prosecution of PTI workers and ministers ? oh wait :D
Yeah right, political prosecution of PTI workers? It was usual badmaashi on PTI goons to forcefully occupy the field/ground (that is said to be solely used for religious purposes) for PTI jalsa. If the city administration took action against that badmaashi, bro you call it political prosecution? Good job man.
 
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A few in the PK Army in the most senior circles are in serious trouble. Things are unraveling fast and I am afraid we are likely to see a major split in the PK Army (which already exists). The China and US tug is ripping Pakistan in opposite directions. PK Establishment has deep and long seated links with the US Establishment. We are witnessing the first time in Pakistan's history a threat to that link, and hence the situation we find ourselves in. Things are going from bad to worse and I am very worried about the state of our armed forces.
I dont believe that will happen. Pakistan army is professional army, they will respect the senior officer and Bajwa is going in November, hopefully the next one in line will have a head. One fact is Usa does have alot of say in Pakistan officers becoming chief etc, we should read the history of the Pakistan army. Its unfortunate.

By the way their are islamist groups in the UK who have direct contacts with Pakistan army officers, they visit Pakistan etc, their role is to encourage Pakistan army officers to over throw the senior generals and do a coup, they have been trying this for decades.
The Usa and West also have these connections, they have their favourites and they too encourage them to work with them for a better powerful Pakistan. They maintain close contacts and influence.
 
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A few in the PK Army in the most senior circles are in serious trouble. Things are unraveling fast and I am afraid we are likely to see a major split in the PK Army (which already exists). The China and US tug is ripping Pakistan in opposite directions. PK Establishment has deep and long seated links with the US Establishment. We are witnessing the first time in Pakistan's history a threat to that link, and hence the situation we find ourselves in. Things are going from bad to worse and I am very worried about the state of our armed forces.
You might be right about the link between Pak and US military establishments. But at the same time the whole world knows that it's Pak military that has much deeper links with Chinese military establishment (than our civilian admin with Chinese counterparts - especially under IK). Why do we assume that we must go along only with one world power? Why can't we have a balanced strategic relationship with both the US and China? Our military has apparently succeeded in doing that so far. It's only our civilian leadership that messes things up.

Please stop spreading lies of any split in our military. Our military is working cohesively and will keep doing that.
 
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Tomorrow we have a jalsa at Faisalabad, home of Rana Sanaullah. That would be interesting to see.
 
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Honest Question - Do these Jalsas or protests bring any economic woes to the country as they keep happening on working days ? Slowing down internet must be hampering your IT service sector. Cutting down electricity might be hampering industries also in that area. Traffic Jam is also a factor in productivity loss.
 
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Honest Question - Do these Jalsas or protests bring any economic woes to the country as they keep happening on working days ? Slowing down internet must be hampering your IT service sector. Cutting down electricity might be hampering industries also in that area. Traffic Jam is also a factor in productivity loss.

stfu pajeet. dont intefare in pakistan internal matters
 
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You might be right about the link between Pak and US military establishments. But at the same time the whole world knows that it's Pak military that has much deeper links with Chinese military establishment (than our civilian admin with Chinese counterparts - especially under IK). Why do we assume that we must go along only with one world power? Why can't we have a balanced strategic relationship with both the US and China? Our military has apparently succeeded in doing that so far. It's only our civilian leadership that messes things up.

Please stop spreading lies of any split in our military. Our military is working cohesively and will keep doing that.
How is me saying that there is a tug of war between the future direction of the Establishment, whether towards China or the US - how is that a lie. The fact you are saying the military is working cohesively speaks to how little you know on what is happening.

There we some orders of formation updates on this political issue requested to rank and file that was generally refused by many GOCs. Basically similar to Kyani's famous request after Bin Laden episode.

First and foremost - 98% of the army is doing its job on more or less focused on the task (war-fighting). Though what is happening in the country is impacting them, not in a positive way. Most rank and file in the military are with IK and PTI.

The 2% which is usually the top cadre is where the tug is won. Here you have a split between the US and Chinese camps. One group wants stronger alignment with China the other wants to maintain the status quo. Yes ideally we should be able to balance but the US does not want balance. It wants complete alignment to US interests. They have run their relationship for years in this manner and for them balance is not acceptable.

I think the members know me well enough to know whether I am aware of what is happening or not.
The top 2% is split and that is not a lie (there are actually more groups as well), and even there a plurality is with IK. The amount of politics that happens in this top group is greater than you think. There is so much behind the scenes lobbying and sniping, it is pretty sick. Only reason we don't hear about it is that this stays within the military corners and does not become public information.
 
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From what i have heard that the venue was private property of a church and they didn't allowed such activities, the way out could have been to change the venue which PTI leadership didn't wanted, authorities didn't had any objection on having a jalsa they had objection on the venue.
 
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