USA wants defence agreement with Bangladesh

[24 Hours]

Whatever way you hate, America is the only source of security for BD in the present context as it has been the source of food for many decades since Pakistan time. But, why do not you blame the BD political leadership for the failure of diplomacy that led to starvation? Why America or any other country should be held responsible for a man-made crisis in another country?

Don't put words in my mouth. I already stated BD's corrupt government was not innocent either.

 

[bluesky]

Don't put words in my mouth. I already stated BD's corrupt government was not innocent either.

And why should I put words in your mouth? Now, re-read below what you wrote in your post #32. You also asked me to "get out of here" as well. How are you now going to deny what you said? What a good manner your parents have taught you!!

Doomstar said: ↑
And allowing people to starve is one of these rules? Get out of here. We can absolutely blame the USA for these actions as they denied aid in the first place. We weren't trading military information or anything else. It was jute. Quick licking America's boot for this action, it's a harmful act period.

 

[24 Hours]

And why should I put words in your mouth? Now, re-read below what you wrote in your post #32. You also asked me to "get out of here" as well. How are you now going to deny what you said? What a good manner your parents have taught you!!

Doomstar said: ↑
And allowing people to starve is one of these rules? Get out of here. We can absolutely blame the USA for these actions as they denied aid in the first place. We weren't trading military information or anything else. It was jute. Quick licking America's boot for this action, it's a harmful act period.

Where does it state that America is the sole cause? I stated BD's government had responsibility too. If you want me to be more explicit look at post #40 and earlier at #29

 

[Mage]

Atlleast China doesn't wear the coat of democracy! Lamb coated beast is much more harmful than the beast ( for your sake, if China is a beast too, then they are not lamb coated like India)

One thing is certain like @Abu Shaleh Rumi said, China concerns us less as they don't have a border with us. Among them and Indians, who are less Nazis can be a good debate. Indians are certainly more violent. But Chinese are trying brainwashing. Which is worse, depends on who sees it which way. Some may think that there is nothing wrong with brainwashing re-education camps.

Anyway....I think a defence pact with US is necessary for BD. Maybe allowing them a naval base under some conditions...wouldn't be too bad after all.

 

[VikingRaider]

Anyway....I think a defence pact with US is necessary for BD. Maybe allowing them a naval base under some conditions...wouldn't be too bad after all.

Yes agree . But also don't want to give up our control. Do not want to accept the fate like Pakistan . I want a military pact that will not cost us too much in future . That's why wee need to control our country in strong hand ( military back behind curtain), so that no religious politics should emerge .

Personally I have no issue with religious politics though if they remain in Masjid and socially influential , but we certainly are not going to tolerate any brotherhood aka jamati types who will prefer Ummah concept over nationality and will create chaos. Because so called Ummah lover political parties actually do nothing for ummah ( atleast 2013-2015 violence in Bangladesh was not beneficial for Ummah by the way ) . They are also actually like lamb coated wolves , same as sanghis ; that;s the reason I call sanghi Jamati bhai bhai . So if we can keep such parties away from direct politics , perhaps relationship between us and USA will go well .

So if govt can control them and can maintain current stability , I think our relationship will go better with USA .

One thing is certain like @Abu Shaleh Rumi said, China concerns us less as they don't have a border with us.

One thing we should consider and that is , in 1962 sino indo war when Indian army retreated to Bhutan , then Chinese honored the border and did not pursue, so it's clear that China honored a very small country bhutan. Bhutan is actually protectorate state of India . Still china honored the border line .

So if we had border with China , we would not have to be worried , but it would be very beneficial for us . Our India dependency would be reduced , even we could ignore them totally if it would be necessary .

China is our tested ally , so bad Mouthing china should not be an option . Of course we want defence pact with USA , but about china we will take our own decision , and USA or any other countries do not need to be concerned . We will keep friendly relation with both USA and China .

But Chinese are trying brainwashing. Which is worse, depends on who sees it which way.

So the future will let us know if china is washing brain or Not . I want a very good relationship with USA , but if it comes at the cost of our relationship with china , thenI disagree ! If any option will be given as mandatory , I will choose China every single Time , because China is more tested ally . It's my personal opinion though . Please feel free to share your opinion further .
@Mage

 

[Mage]

Yes agree . But also don't want to give up our control. Do not want to accept the fate like Pakistan . I want a military pact that will not cost us too much in future . That's why wee need to control our country in strong hand ( military back behind curtain), so that no religious politics should emerge .

Personally I have no issue with religious politics though if they remain in Masjid and socially influential , but we certainly are not going to tolerate any brotherhood aka jamati types who will prefer Ummah concept over nationality and will create chaos. Because so called Ummah lover political parties actually do nothing for ummah ( atleast 2013-2015 violence in Bangladesh was not beneficial for Ummah by the way ) . They are also actually like lamb coated wolves , same as sanghis ; that;s the reason I call sanghi Jamati bhai bhai . So if we can keep such parties away from direct politics , perhaps relationship between us and USA will go well .

So if govt can control them and can maintain current stability , I think our relationship will go better with USA .


One thing we should consider and that is , in 1962 sino indo war when Indian army retreated to Bhutan , then Chinese honored the border and did not pursue, so it's clear that China honored a very small country bhutan. Bhutan is actually protectorate state of India . Still china honored the border line .

So if we had border with China , we would not have to be worried , but it would be very beneficial for us . Our India dependency would be reduced , even we could ignore them totally if it would be necessary .

China is our tested ally , so bad Mouthing china should not be an option . Of course we want defence pact with USA , but about china we will take our own decision , and USA or any other countries do not need to be concerned . We will keep friendly relation with both USA and China .



So the future will let us know if china is washing brain or Not . I want a very good relationship with USA , but if it comes at the cost of our relationship with china , thenI disagree ! If any option will be given as mandatory , I will choose China every single Time , because China is more tested ally . It's my personal opinion though . Please feel free to share your opinion further .
@Mage

How is China more time tested ally than US? Also their position regarding the Rohingya issue is certainly not in line with basic humane decency.

Btw do you know Chinese sea border disputes with many countries? i.e. Vietnam, Philippines etc. I am glad we don't have a border with them. I used to think otherwise though. I wish we didn't share a border with India or Myanmar either. Being an island would have suited us much more.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

I will choose China every single Time , because China is more tested ally

Elect Khalida Zia and test Pakistan. You won't regret

 

[Mage]

Elect Khalida Zia and test Pakistan. You won't regret

It's too late now

 

[Imran Khan]

what is USA looking for here in this part ?

 

[Mage]

what is USA looking for here in this part ?

Can't say how authentic it is, but USA is said to have wanted a naval base in Bay of Bengal for a long time.

 

[VikingRaider]

Elect Khalida Zia and test Pakistan. You won't regret

We can choose Pakistan anytime . Infact most of Bangladeshi have no issue with Pakistan . They always choose Pakistan over any other nation .

But we don't need to choose Khaleda Zia again . We choose her twice and in 2nd time she gave us nothing but terrorism and loadshedding. Almost all area of Bangladesh suffered 14-16 hours of load shedding ,
Even most of areas of Dhaka suffered from 10/12 hours load shedding .

By The way , why Hasina does not like Pakistan and always try to defame Pakistan do you know this ?
Trust me she dislike Pakistan not for 1971 , but she Dislike Pakistan because Pakistan and it's citizen hate Hasina without any reason and blindly support Khaleda Zia ! Hasina was not anti Pakistani during her 1996-2001 time !Even she did not use 1971 excessively in politics unlike present days .

Just show affection and honor to Hasina one Time , she will accept you as friends twice , support her 2 times , she will accept you as friend for 4 rimes .

Same as our founding father Sheikh Mujib Did . He has good relationship with Pakistan , Bhutto was your PM then .

But first you need to change your mind .

Also their position regarding the Rohingya issue is certainly not in line with basic humane decency.

Rohingya issue is actually an International issue and China has no other option but to suppprt Miyanmer because her opponents would have taken the benefit . Now china is positive . Look , Pakistan also officially did not take the side of Rohingyas and sold Plane to miyanmer . Now Pakistanis are baliming Hasina for not taking the side of Kashmir directly . In reality everyone see their own interest first . Even ummah concept did not work well in these two cases , so how do you expect that China will take Rohingya side that would severely harm their position ? We have to be very practical brother . The world politics is not so easy as we think !

So blaming Hasina or blaming China for Kashmir and Rohingya case is not practical . But everyone want talgach , it's not only hujuke bangali , but every one in this world , so start bad mouthing . Hypocritically the same peoples remain silent when it's case of UAE . Simply because UAE is rich country !

I wish we didn't share a border with India or Myanmar either. Being an island would have suited us much more.

You need to share border with many countries that's a reality . But sharing borders with bigger countries , specially if you are surrounded , a bad idea I admit . As we are surrounded by India from 3 sides ! I do not care about Miyanmer . They can not harm us !

 

[Mage]

Just show affection and honor to Hasina one Time , she will accept you as friends twice , support her 2 times , she will accept you as friend for 4 rimes .

Do you know her personally? I wonder.

In reality everyone see their own interest first .

Then what's wrong with us doing that? And try to strike a deal with US that benefits us and also the US?

China won't be happy with that you know. Neither would India and the Bamars.

 

[VikingRaider]

Do you know her personally? I wonder.

Just analysis . She is good at making friends . Same as her father . Her father died by hands of friends who later proven traitors . Thankfully Hasina is not so simple minded like Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujib . She can differ ally and enemy !

 

[Mage]

I do not care about Miyanmer . They can not harm us !

They are already harming us by pushing Rohingyas....also drug smuggling and other stuff.

 

[VikingRaider]

Then what's wrong with us doing that? And try to strike a deal with US that benefits us and also the US?

China won't be happy with that you know. Neither would India and the Bamars.

The case is same . We have no intention to make anyone happy , we will choose our own fate . India was also unhappy when we strengthen bond with China . Does that really matter ?

They are already harming us by pushing Rohingyas....also drug smuggling and other stuff.

Hm , but regional politics is involved here . Miyanmer alone is less than insect !