USA treats Russians as Indians whose interests can be ignored

[Lankan Ranger]

USA treats Russians as Indians whose interests can be ignored

US and NATO officials were disappointed with Dmitry Medvedev's recent harsh statements about Russia's intention to pull out from the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty. NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen was one of the first to respond to Medvedev's statements.

"The suggestion that deployment of missiles in the areas neighboring the alliance is an appropriate response ... is very disappointing. NATO's missile defense system [is] designed to defend against threats from outside Europe. Not designed to alter balance of deterrence," Rasmussen wrote via Twitter.

"Cooperation, not confrontation, is the way ahead," he added.

However, the USA still refuses to give legal guarantees saying that the air defense system in Europe is not aimed against Russia. Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov, the President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, said in an interview with Pravda.Ru that there were two basic positions determined in the START-3 Treaty (the document was signed a year ago).

"The first one of them virtually reflected the degradation of Russia's strategic nuclear forces. The second one mirrored the transformation of the American defense potential. The USA could afford a planned reduction of missile launchers because the country set the course for the development of the air defense system and cruise missiles.

"The Americans believe today that it's ok for the Russians to pull out from the START Treaty. The Americans are not losing anything from it, whereas the Russian are not gaining anything either. Unfortunately, the Americans are perfectly aware of the fact that the Russian defense complex has been declining. They know that Russia has its limits in responding to USA's and NATO's challenges. How many Iskander systems can Russia make? The Iskander systems, which everyone could see on the Victory Day Parade on Red Square were not operational. Up to 63 percent of the Russian air space is not protected today.

"Unfortunately, Russia has not been making successive decisions during the recent years. The USA pulled out from the ABM Treaty, but Russia continued to hold joint military drills and share technical information with the country. Afterwards, Russia became concerned all of a sudden. Then, Russia was dissatisfied with any kind of air defense, so we put forward a suggestion to build air defense system together. We shouldn't rush like that - no one is going to take us seriously otherwise.

"America has been successive from the very start. Now the Americans intend to develop the air defense system to be able to neutralize Russian and Chinese missiles. It is about time Russia should make up her mind on what exactly she wants from the US.

"Perhaps, Russia today is the best place for the activities of Western intelligence services and non-governmental organizations. The West does not take Russia as an equal partner. They think of Russians as Indians, whose interests can be ignored.

What if they eventually agree to provide those legal guarantees about air defense to Russia? They will have to be approved at the adequate committee of the US Senate, which is not likely to happen.

"Of course, the USA and NATO agree to continue the talks. However, they take this cooperation as concessions that Russia should make for them single-handed. They demand - we make concessions. We delivered all laser weapons technologies to them during Boris Yeltsin's era. Still, they are expecting more concessions from us."

USA treats Russians as Indians whose interests can be ignored - English pravda.ru

 

[scrumpy]

The word Indians here is used to describe Native Americans.

 

[Lankan Ranger]

 

[somebozo]

The word Indians here is used to describe Native Americans.

If you realise, american indian are not referred in political arguments especially when it comes to strategy

 

[hawx]

fail !

It's pretty obvious that they are referring to Red Indians for a reporter you do not posses that kind of research skills.

 

[isro2222]

Can anyone tell me whats difference between red indians, chirokee indians and indians from india? i mean i know the first 2 are from america but they look bit indians.... Even actor johnny depp is quarter chirokee indian blood.... All 3 indians looks alot similar.... (although west indiz dont look indians but they do have large number of indians who traveled there by ships 100s of years ago). Actor Jhonny depp looks bit mix of indian from india....

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By the way recently just few months ago i heard that red indians from america wants seprate state due to bad treatment by americans.... Do they still get bad treatment in america? And why?....

 

[Hafizzz]

fail !

It's pretty obvious that they are referring to Red Indians for a reporter you do not posses that kind of research skills.

Please provide us with some evidence to backup your claim above !

 

[scrumpy]

If you realise, american indian are not referred in political arguments especially when it comes to strategy

The article was talking about how Russian interests are ignored by the Americans. The comparison here is describe how Russian interests are being treated by the Americans in the same way as how they treated the interests of Native Americans.

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Please provide us with some evidence to backup your claim above !

You are asking for proof for a poorly translated quote from Russian to score some cheap points? Grow up man.

 

[Hafizzz]

The article was talking about how Russian interests are ignored by the Americans. The comparison here is describe how Russian interests are being treated by the Americans in the same way as how they treated the interests of Native Americans.

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You are asking for proof for a poorly translated quote from Russian to score some cheap points? Grow up man.

So no proof to backup your claim ???

 

[Nelson]

People keep on Googling India, but fail to understand the difference between Indians from India and red Indians from US.

Besides, US is not gonna ignore India's interest because India's interests are US's interests.

 

[punisher]

USA treats Russians as Indians whose interests can be ignored

US and NATO officials were disappointed with Dmitry Medvedev's recent harsh statements about Russia's intention to pull out from the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty. NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen was one of the first to respond to Medvedev's statements.

"The suggestion that deployment of missiles in the areas neighboring the alliance is an appropriate response ... is very disappointing. NATO's missile defense system [is] designed to defend against threats from outside Europe. Not designed to alter balance of deterrence," Rasmussen wrote via Twitter.

"Cooperation, not confrontation, is the way ahead," he added.

However, the USA still refuses to give legal guarantees saying that the air defense system in Europe is not aimed against Russia. Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov, the President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, said in an interview with Pravda.Ru that there were two basic positions determined in the START-3 Treaty (the document was signed a year ago).

"The first one of them virtually reflected the degradation of Russia's strategic nuclear forces. The second one mirrored the transformation of the American defense potential. The USA could afford a planned reduction of missile launchers because the country set the course for the development of the air defense system and cruise missiles.

"The Americans believe today that it's ok for the Russians to pull out from the START Treaty. The Americans are not losing anything from it, whereas the Russian are not gaining anything either. Unfortunately, the Americans are perfectly aware of the fact that the Russian defense complex has been declining. They know that Russia has its limits in responding to USA's and NATO's challenges. How many Iskander systems can Russia make? The Iskander systems, which everyone could see on the Victory Day Parade on Red Square were not operational. Up to 63 percent of the Russian air space is not protected today.

"Unfortunately, Russia has not been making successive decisions during the recent years. The USA pulled out from the ABM Treaty, but Russia continued to hold joint military drills and share technical information with the country. Afterwards, Russia became concerned all of a sudden. Then, Russia was dissatisfied with any kind of air defense, so we put forward a suggestion to build air defense system together. We shouldn't rush like that - no one is going to take us seriously otherwise.

"America has been successive from the very start. Now the Americans intend to develop the air defense system to be able to neutralize Russian and Chinese missiles. It is about time Russia should make up her mind on what exactly she wants from the US.

"Perhaps, Russia today is the best place for the activities of Western intelligence services and non-governmental organizations. The West does not take Russia as an equal partner. They think of Russians as Indians, whose interests can be ignored.

What if they eventually agree to provide those legal guarantees about air defense to Russia? They will have to be approved at the adequate committee of the US Senate, which is not likely to happen.

"Of course, the USA and NATO agree to continue the talks. However, they take this cooperation as concessions that Russia should make for them single-handed. They demand - we make concessions. We delivered all laser weapons technologies to them during Boris Yeltsin's era. Still, they are expecting more concessions from us."

USA treats Russians as Indians whose interests can be ignored - English pravda.ru

You saw Indian in the article, and you highlighted it and Ignored about China in the article.

 

[fallstuff]

Usually red indians are referred as native americans.

 

[punisher]

If you realise, american indian are not referred in political arguments especially when it comes to strategy

On June 2, 1924 U.S. Republican President Calvin Coolidge signed the Indian Citizenship Act, which made citizens of the United States of all Native Americans, who were not already citizens, born in the United States and its territories. Prior to passage of the act, nearly two-thirds of Native Americans were already U.S. citizens.

American Indians today in the U.S. have all the rights guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution, can vote in elections, and run for political office. There has been controversy over how much the federal government has jurisdiction over tribal affairs, sovereignty, and cultural practices.
“ Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That all noncitizen Native Americans born within the territorial limits of the United States be, and they are hereby, declared to be citizens of the United States: Provided, That the granting of such citizenship shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of any Native American to tribal or other property.

—Indian Citizenship Act of 1924

 

[punisher]

Usually red indians are referred as native americans.

In 1857, Chief Justice Roger B. Taney expressed that since Native Americans were "free and independent people" that they could become U.S. citizens. Taney asserted that Native Americans could be naturalized and join the "political community" of the United States.
“ [Native Americans], without doubt, like the subjects of any other foreign Government, be naturalized by the authority of Congress, and become citizens of a State, and of the United States; and if an individual should leave his nation or tribe, and take up his abode among the white population, he would be entitled to all the rights and privileges which would belong to an emigrant from any other foreign people. ”

—Chief Justice Roger B. Taney, 1857, What was Taney thinking? American Indian Citizenship in the era of Dred Scott, Frederick e. Hoxie, April 2007.

After the American Civil War and Indian wars in the late 19th century, Native American boarding schools were established, which were often run primarily by or affiliated with Christian missionaries. At this time American society thought that Native American children needed to be acculturated to the general society. The boarding school experience often proved traumatic to Native American children, who were forbidden to speak their native languages, taught Christianity and denied the right to practice their native religions, and in numerous other ways forced to abandon their Native American identities and adopt European-American culture. There were documented cases of sexual, physical and mental abuse occurring at these schools

 

[Lankan Ranger]

Any news article with the name of Indians more popular here. So i posted. I know its referred to red indians. But the word India more popular here.