USA---India---Israel---Iran---Kashmir---:---

[Kaniska]

will if you are a Muslim then you should know that GCC countries are close friends of US and Israel and God said to Muslims do not take Jews and Christians as your friends do not fall to the same place that GCC countries fell and it dose not matter if you are Shia or Sunni.



curse who? Sunnis???

do not take Jews and Christians as your friends

@Indus Pakistan @Imran Khan ...Is it a true fact in Islam that you should not consider Jews and Christian as friend??

 

[skyshadow]

My father told me

What we need right now is a better economy, a stronger army and world class services for our people. For that we need to take a side. Iran is a sinking boat and it's gonna capsize. No one said take Jews and Christian as friends. It's simple, expand trade, make our economy stronger and build an advanced technological army.
Jis ki lathi uski bhens.

yes you have the right to live rich and happy of the time like what Turkey did or what GCC countries did but you allays have to pay the price tell me if one of doses countries that i said have a independent policy no they do not as US ans Israel are there masters telling them what to do and what not to do actually that God said would happen if you take them as your Olyae ( one's who have control on you ) yes they are rich as hell yes they are advance as US it self but they have paid the price didn't they?????? and do not believe them they thought we will fall 2000 years ago there is a reason God said make Persians and Romans Muslim, Romans did not became Muslim but we did and there is a reason for that.

do not take Jews and Christians as your friends

@Indus Pakistan @Imran Khan ...Is it a true fact in Islam that you should not consider Jews and Christian as friend??

you can take them friend as individuales but you can not do that as whole here you need to know word friends is a reference to ally or masters or Olyae in Arabic which means ( one's who have control on you ) like your father or mother or your grandfather one's who tell you what to do and what not to do.

 

[skyshadow]

not very good with translating arabic words, are you?

well im not a English person im Iranian so i will do my best to translate as close as possible but no one is flawless from mistakes neither am i, so correct me if you think im wrong on a translation and i will be happy as English is my third language.

 

[skyshadow]

okay, it is plural of wali (friend). master would be mola/rayis/sayyad etc.

oops, you are right and I was wrong. it can also mean Guardian as in wali al'amr

thanks, well as we learn in Iran wali is first used for parents which is our father and then grandfather and then mother.

 

[Sine Nomine]

I am sorry if I hurt your feelings with my coming words.
With such threads, I get a feeling of how weak we are. We look at Iran, China, Afghanistan Saudia to act on our behalf. But where is our own power? Do we know what exactly a power is? And what steps did we take to build our own power? Are people of Pakistan happy? I say control and stability is the power.
I say, dear world, whatever you say or do, if Pakistan wants to do thing A, we will do it, no matter what. And we are damn ready to handle you, so be careful what you do against us.
So Iran or no Iran, doesn't matter. If we want to take Kashmir, we will do it. No matter what. And I know, how to do it.
@Imran Khan @RealNapster @MUSTAKSHAF @Major Sam @Brass Knuckles

Nothing would matter if we are fair with our objective.

 

[HAIDER]

Hi,

Did Obama know what was coming to the region a few years ago---. Possibly yes---.

That was the very reason Pak military was asked to put is feet down in GCC to settle resolve counter yemen crisis.

Kashmir 370 was not obvious at all at that time---. But what was obvious was that if pak military had around 150 K troops just stationed in the region along with a separate air force and naval group that it was in charge of---the power positioning of the region would be totally different---.

Indian aggression would be contained on one side---iranian proxies contained on the other side---. Pakistan will have all its military force intact in pakistan---plus a special quick deployment fully equipped strike force in GCC---.

Technically pakistan had no problem fulfilling this need---. But tactically countries like india and iran were have serious moments of concern---because that would be a life changing foreign policy changing military policy changing even for those two countries---.

Form a nobody---pakistan would be becoming an economic power house and a military power of the region---the effects of that could be far reaching in the middle east power brokers---.

So---both these countries moved into sabotaging this event---the iranians turned to shia population in pakistan and the indians turned to their indian turn coats in pakistan---and Gen Raheel Shareef chose to stay the fool that he was---.

Why would a general say no to such an offer for him to build up a military ( army navy air forc ) of 150 + K troops with all equipment paid for by the GCC---.

Ask yourself---if iran had no intention of attacking the GCC---why would it be bothered by pakistan having a military force in the GCC---and there was never an intent by pakistan to ever attack india---.

So the drama that started with the yemen crisis and saw pak military faltering in between---the powers to be in india and iran saw a coming problem to be resolved by shoving a wedge in Pak GCC relations---.

When the 27th feb strike happened a strange incidence took place---america rushed in to install Thaad anti missile system in israel---. I was not upto date on the what was india doing about kashmir and what statements it was making---but I realized that something was up in the making---.

Then for no reason---hostilities increased between iran and america---UK captures an iranian oil ship close to spain---the US carrier group had already moved into the region---and then iran takes UK ships as hostage in the gulf---.

The american tour of IK to US received a very strange and welcome reception in the white house and parliament---and I could not fathom that either---but I realized that I was missing something somewhere---.

So---what was hazy and foggy---suddenly became clear once the india govt cancelled 370 and I realized---this deceit had much deeper roots than was obvious---.

This was a ploy and the game was played by india---USA---UK---Iran---israel---two birds pakistan and china were being dropped in one stone---.

@Irfan Baloch @Khafee @Dubious @war&peace @Mangus Ortus Novem et all

Sir ji .. it is very clear, Isreal is now new Middle East leader. Majority of Arab states has to reach Israel for security and economic related issues. Your Ex Air force chief loudly saying Israeli foot print in Kashmir. There is no space for such concept of building and stationed 150k army. Even Turkey has limited army stationed in Qatar and Africa. Do you want tomorrow Saudi or UAE ask Pakistan army to mobilize inside Qatar and confront Turkey ? .... Where we have billion dollars of LNG business interest and Turkey is Pakistan main ally .... Your idea looks great on paper, but practically Pakistan may see dangerous repercussion. You don't want to be pain between 4 muslim nations. On Yemen issue , nobody talks about ISPR stated policy about sending forces outside Pakistan.

 

[nahtanbob]

This still baffles me that how US suddenly out of no where "invites" the prime minister of Pakistan when they have been so hostile/cold towards Pakistan in the last 10 years or so, and on top of that Imran Khan the PM of Pakistan was given an exceptional treatment both by US president as well as the US congress. I think someone really needs to decipher Imran Khans exceptional treatment in US because to my eyes it was all "scripted drama", Pakistan doesn't have such an importance for US that a PM of Pakistan would be given extraordinary treatment by US government without some kind of "special reason". I don't buy this theory that it was due to Pakistan's role in resolving Afghanistan issue, I don't consider it such a big thing because Pakistan has been helping them in that conflict since 2001 on wards in some measure or the other.

On what criteria does Imran Khan visit quality for exceptional treatment by the US Congress ?