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ok bro ill answer u right now, i have never seen his family on t.v saying that osama is dead, all i see is media talking about that his family is arrested, that does not mean that osama is killed.
The readers including myself are familiar as well as fully aware of al qaeda / ubl's wrong doing merely due to US told us. Otherwise there have been no credible evidence for the same. US asks us to believe and digest whatever being said. But sincerely we do not trust you anymore.
Reasons, back after 9/11, when US planned to invade afghanistan on account of ubl's being present there, the talibans used to say ubl is not there, but us ignored and attacked afghanistan. After 10 years he is said to be hiding in that mansion. Then your intel agency reported wmd in iraq, again everyone in world protested but you still ignored and made iraq piece of hell. Now wmd and 'sorry' from you being intelligence failure. Now you came in, did operation, claimed ubl killing and thrown him into sea? Without showing to anyone?
Just tell me dear who is responsible for killings of thousands of people including your own soldiers? Who were killed on account of your false claims and intelligence failures.
Do you believe in justice? If you have any evidence against anyone, please prove him guilty first then throw him into sea, on moon or even mars, we dont care. But please follow the judicial system.
You're right. They've never come public. That doesn't prove that they don't exist or they were not present in that mansion on May 2. Whatever you're saying is just imagination.
You're saying that this ls all drama whlch is going on from last 10 years so that Pakistan can be weakened and then Pakistan would not come in between to save other Muslim country as it did in 1970!!
Wow!! Does that make any sense?
1 Why they did not do this drama in Afghanistan?
2 what is Pakistan's interest in this drama?
3 If you say that zardari is agreed to whatever USA says then give us the video of the same.
dude look, they started this drama from Iraq, then into Afghanistan, and now into Pakistan, even Washington post said that third war might be in Pakistan, and USA's interest is China. which happens to be Pakistan's good friend.
I am sorry brother. Let me ask you the questions again.
1 Why they did not do this drama in Afghanistan?
2 If you claim that Zardari is involved in this drama then where's the proof of your claim?
3 And why USA, GoP, ISI, CIA, and AQ is doing all this drama???
I hope I'll get the answer this time. Thank you.
The readers including myself are familiar as well as fully aware of al qaeda / ubl's wrong doing merely due to US told us. Otherwise there have been no credible evidence for the same. US asks us to believe and digest whatever being said. But sincerely we do not trust you anymore.
Reasons, back after 9/11, when US planned to invade afghanistan on account of ubl's being present there, the talibans used to say ubl is not there, but us ignored and attacked afghanistan. After 10 years he is said to be hiding in that mansion. Then your intel agency reported wmd in iraq, again everyone in world protested but you still ignored and made iraq piece of hell. Now wmd and 'sorry' from you being intelligence failure. Now you came in, did operation, claimed ubl killing and thrown him into sea? Without showing to anyone?
Just tell me dear who is responsible for killings of thousands of people including your own soldiers? Who were killed on account of your false claims and intelligence failures.
Do you believe in justice? If you have any evidence against anyone, please prove him guilty first then throw him into sea, on moon or even mars, we dont care. But please follow the judicial system.
Can we deny the wrath inflicted upon the people of Iraq under Saddam’s dictatorship? Do you really believe Iraqi people are worse off living in freedom today? The intelligence may not have revealed WMDs, but it did unmask how much Saddam's people were ready to topple with his regime. Today Iraq is free with a democratic government. We agree that there was an intelligence failure, but then most intelligence agencies agreed with the conclusion that Saddam still possessed WMD capabilities (it was not just us). Al-Qaeda was certainly successful in orchestrating large number of killings and utilizing the situation to their benefit. Most Iraqis were killed in the aftermath of Iraq's liberation by Al-Qaeda operatives but today they are on path to recovery. We welcome any evidence which states otherwise. As promised by President Obama our combat troops are already out of Iraq and soon the few trainers who are left will be leaving. Iraq faces some challenges, which will soon be resolved, when you will see Iraq as a beacon of freedom and democracy in the Middle East and around the world.
CDR Speaks,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command
Part 1
Dear S.M.R:
Forum readers, let us bring the follower of dark conspiracy theories to the light shed upon truth by once again listing facts and verifiable sources. Only then will he truly see who blindly believes everything? Where dear readers Is the good in arguing without credible evidence from verifiable sources? Where dear readers is the good in ignoring facts and truth in favor of a conspiracy made up of convenient falsehoods? Here, dear readers is the good of confronting the evidence?
In the following link witness Taliban leader vow attacks on the US:
In the following link witness Pakistani Taliban bombing a US consulate convoy in Peshawar:
BBC News - Pakistan Taliban bomb US consulate convoy in Peshawar
In the following link witness Taliban claim responsibility for the Times Square bombing plot:
In the following link hear from the girl kidnapped by the Taliban to commit suicide bombing:
With such facts and truth in our possession well past is the time for blame and conspiracy theories. Al-Qaeda and TTP are in Afghanistan and Pakistan using each country as a safe-haven to attack the other. It is only through combined efforts that neither Pakistan nor Afghanistan will be safe-havens and the Taliban will have nowhere to run or hide. While we did not find Usama bin-Laden (UBL) in Afghanistan was not the nation of Afghanistan brutally suppressed under the Taliban dictatorship while Al-Qaeda was allowed by Taliban to use the country as a safe-haven to conduct terrorist operations around the world?
CDR Bill Speaks,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command
Dear Bill, thanks for your input.
You are referring to the recent mess that is the result of US's presence in Afghanistan. Since Pakistan became ally of US in the War against terrorism, so these terrorists have made Pakistan their Prime Target. The recent terrorism in Pakistan is result of that Pak-US alliance. I have no personal soft corner for any terrorist of the world, be it planners and executors of 9/11, and/or every terrorism activity in any part of the world including Pakistan specifically. All the terrorist should be convicted in court of law, not based on statements declaring anyone terrorist and his extra judicial killing afterwards.
The whole scenario of the world changed especially after 9/11. Keep aside / ignore all the conspiracy theories as well as theorists, which although most of them are born on your own soil.
Just give us any credible evidence justifying the:
- Afghan invasion,
- Iraq Invasion
Just put yourself in shoes of a judge for a moment, and think, had the people forced the US to provide concrete evidences justifying Afghan attack or attack on Iraq for WMDs, Don't you think we would have saved millions of people who died in vein? We would have saved both the countries from destruction, We would have saved million of kids from becoming orphans.
A reminder: members may want to ignore Arsenal6, a Brit who re-flagged himself just to annoy Jews and Zionists.