‘US to collapse in July 2010’

[EvoluXon]

you make no sense. Please explain your definition of civil war. Because so far I do not see one in the U.S.




Many ppl in US hve become jobless,homeless etc. arms struggle will start in US .ppl of 1 state will attack ppl of others state looting shooting ll b common in US .US ll ask UN 2 deploy its peacekeeping Army in US bcoz its own army is busy sumwhereelse but chinese Russian ll veto the resolution .State.of New mexicans ll attack california..Governor of california Arnold Schawzeneger ll threaten 2 new mexicans 2 stop fi8in otherwise he will jump in 2 ground he will show them his commnado movie skill .Texas ppl will say we can do better massacre then anybodyelse hvent u seen Texas chainsaw massacre ???? then black ll attack white wid support of their leader sitting in white house.Pakistan ll send its 1st drone in 2 US territory 2 takeout miscreants in US . US media and public ll make hue and cry n their gov ll condemn it but they ll hve secret understandg wid pakistan regarding drone attacks hehehe foreign INTEL agencies ll try to make the most of it KBG chinese agency And ISI ll b destabilizng USA..while CIA ll b busy in searching of USAMA.while whole world ll b cryin that US Nukes are unsafe it can go in2 miscreants hands. in tis way Civil war ll b in full swing in US.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Hi,
Jeypore is pointing out at the debt structure! irrespective of its value.
US will always have the money to meet its neccesities!
In simple words US is the authority to print $US!
Who is forcing US to pay its debts? even if some bank ask for it US can go to central bank and borrow some from there... state bank of US belongs to US.
In reality, it is people like you and me who pay for US debts much to our ignorance.
Why do you think countries out of US influence are diversifying there forex reserves?
If US collapse than Pakistan will be among many countries to collapse with it simply because our own currency what ever value it has is in reference to $US.

US can only collapse if suddenly large number of countries decided to change the currency of their forex reserves and strike peace accords with their neighbors or world wide interstate conflicts die out.
On top of that we stop using petrol...

THIS WILL BE SUDDEN DEATH FOR US ECONOMY. but this is not going to happen at least in next 1 year

Have you ever noticed that US have allocated far less budget on alternative energy development than many other areas...... now its getting complicated and lengthy and i stop here.

Just a last hint.. there are far more US citizens dying with sickness than terrorism and US can save more American lives by investing few million more on health sector and can become more technologically advance by investing little more on education sector and may not need foreign skilled labor... BUT in reality US spend perhaps 1000 times more on war as compare to health and education sector!
WHY.. simple ecnomics....war is a earning source and is infect financing the health, education, development etc. etc. etc.
More you invest on war more you earn! HOW... by indebting the war ridden states.... and forcing them in to petrol driven economies!
I'm not making any thing of my own... go check the statistics of IMF and World bank etc..more war means more loans being lend out to involved states... more defese deals and cirrency of respective states getting diluted hence US debts being passed out smoothly and slowly.

Now if US collapse... more than half of the world collapse. incl. Pakistan.
What is most amazing is Pakistan is the only country in the world which take loans on highest markups and with conditions where IMF have powers of king BUT no media is ever allowed to term it loan!
AID ...AID...AID.... fool the democracy lovers by the name of AID because they are tested fools or perhaps more corrupt than any other human on this planet.
Sorry i got carried away... perhaps black water is in Pakistan to quite those who knows too much, we should be careful in discussing hidden statistics.

You know money is never lost it simply goes from one hand to another one's failure is others successes, So there be another mega rich country in twenty years giving aid to Pakistan

There are countries waiting in line to take US riches away probably in twenty years.

where can you sell your product more? were people have every thing or where people want every thing if money comes to their hands like India or china, world half population

 

[araz]

US Dollar is going down (over printing) as compared to other currency ever heard of devaluation , The main reason of Oil going up is that US Oil reserve going low and weak US $

Hey I can buy a US buck for one Canadian Buck, few years ago I need two Canadian bucks to buy one US Buck

So Why not print money and save California from being bankrupt.

Yes not with in one year but with in ten years US might be economically weak

China has two trillion US bonds and you have to pay interest on bonds.

and Jeypore was confusing Deficit with National debt (what ever the value be both are different things)

Mairay Bhai
Do you think it is only yesterday that america started printing dollars. They have been doing so for the last 4 decades. They have a projected debt of 9 Trillion over the next ten yrs. For your sake you better hope that they do not collapse. It will be an economic catastrophe of mammoth proportion.
Araz

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Mairay Bhai
Do you think it is only yesterday that america started printing dollars. They have been doing so for the last 4 decades. They have a projected debt of 9 Trillion over the next ten yrs. For your sake you better hope that they do not collapse. It will be an economic catastrophe of mammoth proportion.
Araz

I said over printing and weak economy never ever said collapse , not good for us in the north.

They had jobs in production and service sector in 80s which are now out sourced so at that time there was no need for over printing the buck

 

[Beskar]

"USA collapse ker jaye ga lekin BLK-52's mer kay bhi kabhi nahin day ga" - Anonymous Pakistani Airman.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Mairay Bhai
Do you think it is only yesterday that america started printing dollars.
Araz

I am not a average Joe you are taking to, printing and over printing (to over come deficit) is different things , probably I know more of economics then you do.

Every country in 80s used to keep gold (to some percentage) as backing to every dollar printed not crazy like these days

 

[Thomas]




Many ppl in US hve become jobless,homeless etc. arms struggle will start in US .ppl of 1 state will attack ppl of others state looting shooting ll b common in US .US ll ask UN 2 deploy its peacekeeping Army in US bcoz its own army is busy sumwhereelse but chinese Russian ll veto the resolution .State.of New mexicans ll attack california..Governor of california Arnold Schawzeneger ll threaten 2 new mexicans 2 stop fi8in otherwise he will jump in 2 ground he will show them his commnado movie skill .Texas ppl will say we can do better massacre then anybodyelse hvent u seen Texas chainsaw massacre ???? then black ll attack white wid support of their leader sitting in white house.Pakistan ll send its 1st drone in 2 US territory 2 takeout miscreants in US . US media and public ll make hue and cry n their gov ll condemn it but they ll hve secret understandg wid pakistan regarding drone attacks hehehe foreign INTEL agencies ll try to make the most of it KBG chinese agency And ISI ll b destabilizng USA..while CIA ll b busy in searching of USAMA.while whole world ll b cryin that US Nukes are unsafe it can go in2 miscreants hands. in tis way Civil war ll b in full swing in US.

WOW.....

 

[Beskar]




Many ppl in US hve become jobless,homeless etc. arms struggle will start in US .ppl of 1 state will attack ppl of others state looting shooting ll b common in US .US ll ask UN 2 deploy its peacekeeping Army in US bcoz its own army is busy sumwhereelse but chinese Russian ll veto the resolution .State.of New mexicans ll attack california..Governor of california Arnold Schawzeneger ll threaten 2 new mexicans 2 stop fi8in otherwise he will jump in 2 ground he will show them his commnado movie skill .Texas ppl will say we can do better massacre then anybodyelse hvent u seen Texas chainsaw massacre ???? then black ll attack white wid support of their leader sitting in white house.Pakistan ll send its 1st drone in 2 US territory 2 takeout miscreants in US . US media and public ll make hue and cry n their gov ll condemn it but they ll hve secret understandg wid pakistan regarding drone attacks hehehe foreign INTEL agencies ll try to make the most of it KBG chinese agency And ISI ll b destabilizng USA..while CIA ll b busy in searching of USAMA.while whole world ll b cryin that US Nukes are unsafe it can go in2 miscreants hands. in tis way Civil war ll b in full swing in US.

That's the funniest thing I've read all day. Thanks dude!

 

[Comet]

USA is such a Giant that if it collapsed, it will take half of the world with it.

Imagine all those Dollars in every country's Foreign Exchange Account becoming useless.

 

[rehan.abid]

In today's world economic meltdown is the major factor for the downfall of any nation or country.

Having a defense sector doesn't mean they can survive on it. What do you think US will do, selling weapons to everyone ?? You need buyers to sell weapons. When buyers don't have money how will they buy ?? US weapons are pretty expensive & they don't sell to anyone knocking on their door.

As for Green bucks, it is not so easy to print bucks whenever u need, printing more bucks mean more troubles.

A good analysis of the problems faced by the dollar can be checked out in the below thread.

The article just mentions about the problems faced by dollar, not that it has got anything to do with the existence of USA.
Perhaps I know a bit more about money and economy, as it is my specialty.

USA is such a Giant that if it collapsed, it will take half of the world with it.

Imagine all those Dollars in every country's Foreign Exchange Account becoming useless.

Thats more like it, put it in simple terms the world cannot afford that US should cease to exist.
US Current unemployment rate is still in single digit, Population below poverty line is about 12 %, meaning average earning per person is around 12000$ per annum for people below poverty line.
How could we expect a civil war in US when our own population living below poverty line is about 40%, and still signs of a civil war due to poverty and unemployment are not visible, and we are expecting US to cease to exist with mentioned figures of unemployment and poverty.
BTW: I forgot to mention that unemployment does not mean without money for livelihood they have social security, unemployment insurance etc.

 

[ratolz]

the Times of India ranks up there with the New York times in terms of believability. They are known for slanting stories. I look at the direct effects that can be seen. that is why i pointed out the millions of people who lost their jobs in China. They lost their jobs becuase of the falling exports. Which also has a domino effect of less domestic spending. China's economic woes don't seem to be letting up as well.

Unemployment forces Chinese migrants back to the countryside | World news | The Guardian\

China's economic woes could hit global markets- LATEST NEWS-The Economic Times

Asian economic woe grows as China slows and Japanese exports plunge - Telegraph

India has economic woes as well. though to India's credit. The plan to sell some state owned businesses is a step in the right direction.

India's street vendors feel the economic woes

India’s growth outlook dim despite stability: Moody’s

OH man say "i dont like TOI so please give me another source."...lol


Ok here are some more sources for you, including NYTIMES. Dont say nytimes in lying, because its even less popular in India than a normal Regional news paper. So it has nothing to do here by posting lies (as you think).



GDP Falls 6.1% in the First Quarter | The Businessweek Video Library


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/business/global/01rupee.html?_r=1


India's April-June GDP up 6.1 percent - SiliconIndia


India registers 6.1 percent growth April-June


Some times Feeding babies is too tiring...

 

[Thomas]

OH man say "i dont like TOI so please give me another source."...lol


Ok here are some more sources for you, including NYTIMES. Dont say nytimes in lying, because its even less popular in India than a normal Regional news paper. So it has nothing to do here by posting lies (as you think).



GDP Falls 6.1% in the First Quarter | The Businessweek Video Library


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/business/global/01rupee.html?_r=1


India's April-June GDP up 6.1 percent - SiliconIndia


India registers 6.1 percent growth April-June


Some times Feeding babies is too tiring...

first of all I never said there wasn't any growth in India's economy. I was pointing out it was not quite as rosy you want to make it out. if you had done further checking the figures you posted were down graded. I take it you didn't like the links I posted.

Oh, and one sign of maturity is being able to hold a intelligent conversation without resorting to a personal attack.

 

[BATMAN]

You know money is never lost it simply goes from one hand to another one's failure is others successes, So there be another mega rich country in twenty years giving aid to Pakistan

There are countries waiting in line to take US riches away probably in twenty years.

where can you sell your product more? were people have every thing or where people want every thing if money comes to their hands like India or china, world half population

MONEY! where is money 90% of projected money is only digits in computers! what is in pockets of world population is only 10%.
Same money (US$) which starts its journey from same debt ridden US govt. fills banks after banks and keep multiplying in ledgers of all those banks and is never for real.
In theoratical system if one bank collapse than all collapse because its back to back deposit where as real money never exist in such volumes.
You understand.. it is US debt. which give birth to $ and this is the system.
This is why when ever one bank collapse Govt. comes for bail out by printing more $ and more $ means more debt.

No doubt in priniting more debt based currency naturally risk devaluation but it run through the veins of economy and industrial sector earns it back with exports ... later lot of science is involved to sustain the exports..
Eventually, devalution of US$ is passed on to a country which imports US products.. if imports are on loans than you not only absorb the devaluation of US$... but also loose your state assets and ultimately autonomy.
Now imagine US owns you... and if economies of China or India threatens him he will use Pakistani slave labourers/jihadis to fight back.

Perhaps I know a bit more about money and economy, as it is my specialty.

unemployment insurance etc.

No doubt you both know ecnomics more and this is why you are not understanding because you are not willing to look beyond ecnomics.

Who cares about American people? It is also not American people who owns this monetary world.. its a big mafia and advantage of being American is that in any monetary collapse you tend to receive the blow at end.
Developed human resource will be real asset at the end and how to enslave it and deprive other nations from developing human resource is another science.
destroying girls school in Swat was one application of the comprehensive strategy.

If any thing risk to fail is... than it is monetary system but not US!!!!

Shaukat Aziz was a big economist and he changed Pakistan's fate by simply investing in human resource and facilitating its development.
He came to Pakistan to make it another America because he was insider and knew how it works. He was perhaps thinking to be the President of a American like state or be the person who owns share of a American like economy.

We need 50~100 Shaukat Aziz around the world to weaken US$ dramatically and what happens as a consequence will be an individual race.

You can forget about India because all indian investments will be in arms and related technology imports because it have a threat from China and Pakistan, and by corrupting and destabalizing Pakistan this risk magnify.
Though it is clear that in war senario China will beat **** out of india but in case miracle happens as in case of USSR it will eventually benifits US.. war in any part of region of world is a win win strategy for US.

Democracies of undeveloped states are always engineered.
Thanks to same US debt. which is infect key to US growth.

 

[ratolz]

first of all I never said there wasn't any growth in India's economy. I was pointing out it was not quite as rosy you want to make it out. if you had done further checking the figures you posted were down graded. I take it you didn't like the links I posted.

Oh, and one sign of maturity is being able to hold a intelligent conversation without resorting to a personal attack.

Oh man, GDP at 6.1 even during this recession time.... What more you want?? 20 or 50?

 

[adrenalin]

Does that mean, I am losing my job again?