US threatens the rest of the world, saying "We will remember this day"

[Chinese-Dragon]

Exactly. The Arab Lobby is not necessarily smaller than the Israeli Lobby in terms of monetary influence. The Jewish Lobby argument somehow whitewashes US government crimes by deflecting the crime upon someone else.

No, it was not the Jewish Lobby that led the US to carpet bomb Vietnam. 95% of the napalm used in Vietnam was made in South Korea.

It is not a Jewish-non Jewish conflict; it is political right vs. political left. On the political right, the state of Israel is strongly aligned with most theocratic Arab regimes.

Yes, this is EXACTLY my concern.

I'm worried that the crimes of the US government are simply blamed on the "Zionists", making people focus their attention on Zionists and Israel, instead of the real culprit which is the US government.

I hear it all the time on this forum, "It's not the fault of America, America is good! It's just the Zionists that are bad!"

@war&peace @salarsikander - Just my opinion.

I don't consider Israel a threat much beyond their borders. The real troublemaker is the USA.

 

[Nefarious]

Remember it assholes. Zionists are the most blind and deluded people on the planet. How can anyone support this joke.

And Nikki Haley's a skank who sold her soul for free.

 

[TaiShang]

Yes, this is EXACTLY my concern.

I'm worried that the crimes of the US government are simply blamed on the "Zionists", making people focus their attention on Zionists and Israel, instead of the real culprit which is the US government.

I hear it all the time on this forum, "It's not the fault of America, America is good! It's just the Zionists that are bad!"

@war&peace @salarsikander - Just my opinion.

That's a deflection attempt for many.

Besides, the argument about Zionism is also used to hide the inherent racism and religion-based hatred that is, the enduring enmity among the three organized Middle Eastern religions.

The most ardent anti-Zionists are religious fundamentalists of the rival camps.

 

[VCheng]

Well then why did the people vote for Trump then?

They exercised their right to vote freely. If you or I do not agree with the end result, that is another matter, and is best resolved by the next elections. That is the prescribed due process that works here.

BD is secular and no law can prescribe any religious test, doesn't mean an atheist like me has as much chance as any other person. Yes, definitely US is changing for the better as is BD but current facts are current facts. Just by being an atheist, you almost eliminate your chance to be president of the US or even senator of most states. US really isn't nearly as inclusive as Canada in many cases as you would like to believe.

If BD and Canada are better than the US in this regards, that is great, more power to them USA will charts its own path forward, imperfect as it may be.

Who know there will be no White house in next 50 years ? After trump anything can happen .. maybe white house will be one of his private hotel where he bring Russian chicks for God knows what purpose

Who knows indeed?

(It might even be you! )

 

[terranMarine]

The US better keeps it promise, no more aid, leave the UN for the sake of adding weight to its credibility (if it had any to begin with)

 

[MultaniGuy]

They exercised their right to vote freely. If you or I do not agree with the end result, that is another matter, and is best resolved by the next elections. That is the prescribed due process that works here.



If BD and Canada are better than the US in this regards, that is great, more power to them USA will charts its own path forward, imperfect as it may be.



Who knows indeed?

(It might even be you! )

Yeah but do not say that Trump does not represent the American people, because the American people voted for Trump, Okay?

 

[VCheng]

Yeah but do not say that Trump does not represent the American people, because the American people voted for Trump, Okay?

Where did I ever say that? Trump won the election, fair and square, according to the due prescribed process. He has every right to exercise the powers accorded to him under the Constitution, including the conduct of foreign policy, that best serve US national interests.

 

[Offshore]

My statement is indeed correct: no law can prescribe any such religious test for any elected office here.



This country is always changing for the better. Once there were slaves here and then came Obama. Who knows in 50 years who might be in the White House?

Chinese American

 

[VCheng]

Chinese American

Why not? Definitely a possibility.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Where did I ever say that? Trump won the election, fair and square, according to the due prescribed process. He has every right to exercise the powers accorded to him under the Constitution, including the conduct of foreign policy, that best serve US national interests.

The question is, do you think what Trump is doing, is what best serves American interests?

Or the interests of his own family? What was Jared Kushner's prior political experience for example?

Was it Trump's intention for all of America's traditional allies to vote against them on this resolution?

 

[VCheng]

The question is, do you think what Trump is doing, is what best serves American interests?

Or the interests of his own family? What was Jared Kushner's prior political experience for example?

Was it Trump's intention for all of America's traditional allies to vote against them on this resolution?

I have my personal opinions. What Trump is doing will be judged by US voters in the coming midterms and the next elections. That is the way due process works in USA.

 

[Tumba]

It is almost as if US is deliberately trying to "relinquish" its power as a Superpower.

not sure UN resolutions make much difference to US repute... Superpower comes from their space age military... there brilliant MNCs and the worlds largest economy,,,

 

[Solomon2]

No law can prescribe any such religious test for any elected office here.

Not quite. Article VI, paragraph 3 of the U.S. Constitution:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

The point of this clause is that in accepting their sworn office or service any actions that might otherwise be dictated by an office-holder's religious convictions are to be subordinated to the U.S. Constitution. A devoted Catholic employed as a clerk can't refuse to register a lawful gay marriage, nor can a Muslim marine refuse lawful orders to kill jihadis on the grounds that his observance of religion dictates that he supports their cause.

"I, ----------, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."​

 

[VCheng]

no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Good enough for me.

 

[jamal18]

It just shows how the US is totally owned by Israel.