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AMERICA made clear last week that it would attack Taliban forces in their Swat valley stronghold unless the Pakistan government stopped the militants’ advance towards Islamabad.

A senior Pakistani official said the Obama administration intervened after Taliban forces expanded from Swat into the adjacent district of Buner, 60 miles from the capital.

The Pakistani Taliban’s inroads raised international concern, particularly in Washington, where officials feared that the nuclear-armed country, which is pivotal to the US war against the Taliban in Afghanistan and against Al-Qaeda, was rapidly succumbing to Islamist extremists.

“The implicit threat - if you don’t do it, we may have to - was always there,” said the Pakistani official. He said that under American pressure, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency told the Taliban to withdraw from Buner on Friday.

However, reports yesterday indicated that the Taliban withdrawal was less than total. As a result, hundreds of thousands of people in the district were still at the mercy of armed militants and their restrictive interpretation of Islamic law.

American military and intelligence forces already run limited ground and air operations on Pakistani soil along the border with Afghanistan. But an overt military operation such as that threatened in Swat, away from the border, would mark a major escalation.

The official said last week’s outspoken remarks by Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, were “calculated to ramp up the pressure on Pakistan” to take action. Clinton warned that the terrorists’ advance had created a “mortal threat” to world security.

She was one of several American political and military leaders to use unusually strong language about Pakistan’s failure to curb the Taliban. Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, who visited Pakistan, said he was “extremely concerned” about the developments and that the situation was “definitely worse” than two weeks ago.

General David Petraeus, of US Central Command, which oversees Afghanistan - to which America is about to commit 17,000 more troops - said Al-Qaeda and Taliban extremists in Pakistan posed an “ever more serious threat to Pakistan’s very existence”.

These remarks have stung Pakistan. Husain Haqqani, the ambassador to Washington, accused the Obama administration of making it harder for his country to fight the Taliban.

“The US needs to relate its comments to the ground realities in Pakistan instead of the mood in Washington,” he said. “Most Pakistanis are not supportive of the Taliban way of life, but at the same time widespread anti-Americanism confuses many Pakistanis into having a conflicting view.

“We want to turn that view around but the US and its leaders must help us to do that.”

The latest crisis stems from a controversial ceasefire the government signed in February to end months of vicious fighting between the Taliban and the army in Swat that caused significant loss of life and an exodus from what had once been a tourist centre. Some 500,000 now live outside Swat, a third of them in camps that used to shelter refugees from the fighting in Afghanistan.

In return for the imposition of sharia [Islamic law] in Swat, the Taliban agreed to disengage, disarm and stop menacing people. But it was from Swat last week that their fighters overran Buner with about 500 well-armed men under a hardline commander, Maulvi Khalil.

As in Swat, once his forces had established themselves, Khalil began to impose the movement’s repressive rules on what had once been a peaceful valley. He ordered girls over seven to wear veils and directed men to keep their women inside and to grow beards. He banned music. In several villages the Taliban were snatching mobile phones on the pretext that they had musical ring tones or photos of women on them.

The Taliban stole livestock, took vehicles belonging to government officials and ransacked the offices of some local nongovernment organisations. In a phone call, Khalil denied the Taliban were terrorists. He said: “We’ve raised the arms to spread the message of Allah. This is the responsibility of each and every Muslim.” But residents fear it is just a matter of time before their daughters are forced to marry Taliban commanders, a process that has begun already in Swat, along with public floggings.

On Friday, in a much publicised agreement with the government, Khalil agreed to withdraw. Local residents said the withdrawal was incomplete. He had left men behind to supplement local armed Taliban groups and newly recruited sympathisers.

“There is a collective holding of breath,” said Sam Zarifi, Amnesty International’s Asia director, from Islamabad. “The Taliban edicts are still in force and the dismantling of the civilian infrastructure is still very much in effect, so a lot of doctors, midwives, civil servants have left and people are hunkering down because they fear an army operation.”

The government sent a few hundred paramilitaries to Buner last week but they kepta low profile. It has not sent any troops. The Americans want the government to shift troops from the India-Pakistan border to meet the Taliban threat, but frightened residents of Buner fear an army operation would cause civilian casualties.

‘Stop the Taliban now – or we will’ - Times Online
 
Pakistan military prepares to block Taliban expansion

By Farhan Bokhari in Islamabad

Published: April 25 2009 11:52 | Last updated: April 25 2009 11:52

Pakistan’s security services including its army on Saturday were preparing to be deployed at short notice to use force and block any attempt by Taliban militants to spread beyond the country’s northern Swat valley, a senior government official said.

The region is at the centre of international concern over the possibility of Islamic militancy taking charge of the nuclear-armed state.

News of the security services preparations came a day after the Taliban were persuaded under growing pressure from the government to retreat back from Buner, a dusty town just 60 miles from Islamabad, the Pakistani capital.

During their 24-hour occupation of Buner, the Taliban issued tough orders such as closing down barber shops so that everyone was forced to grow a beard in compliance with Islamic tradition.

Their arrival in Buner followed growing international outcry after the Pakistani government allowed Islamic laws to be imposed in Swat in return for the Taliban to lay down their arms in the region. Rather than peacefully disarm, some Taliban militants began preparations for enlarging their area of influence with the short-lived campaign in Buner.

As the crisis has grown, Pakistan’s powerful military has become the target of many of its critics who argue that the military simply does not have the capability to fight Islamic militants.

On Friday, the Pakistani military in an unusual statement apparently meant to rebut criticism of its performance said it will not allow militants to take control of the country.

The statement, issued after a meeting of the top military commanders chaired by General Ashfaq Kiyani, the army chief, said; “The army is determined to root out the menace of terrorism from society”. The statement added “it [the army] will not allow the militants to dictate terms to the government or impose their way of life on the civil society of Pakistan.”

A senior Pakistani government official on Saturday said, ”We now have orders to retaliate very quickly if needed in case there is another case like Buner”.

Western diplomats said the army appeared to have drawn a red line against militants spreading themselves beyond Swat, though it was still unclear if Friday’s statement would mark an end to well-established past links between the Pakistan army and Islamic militant groups.

Many such groups were nurtured by the military after the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan by the former Soviet Union. “These Taliban militants are a Frankenstein monster created by the army itself. The proof will come in the pudding. We all want to know if the army will actively fight out these people and only time will tell” said one western diplomat in Islamabad.

FT.com / Asia-Pacific / Pakistan - Pakistan military prepares to block Taliban expansion
 
They couldn't stop the taliban on their side of the border, how are they planning to do it on our side of the border. Seriously some one needs to tell them from the Pakistani side to drop the paranoia and let us handle the situation the way we deem fit, after all its our area and not yours and taliban are hardly in a position to cause a world wide threat.
 
”We now have orders to retaliate very quickly if needed in case there is another case like Buner...":tsk:

Of course there's another case like Buner. It's called B-U-N-E-R. What's been accomplished and, if not, what do these orders matter?

Then SWAT. Then FATA.

"In case" my azz.:angry:
 
Woww the NATO forces cant control the Taliban in their side of the border but they want to strike them in our country :D. I dont know if NATO forces are aware of this but Taliban control 50% of Afghanistan :D, but they want to pursue them in FATA wowww :D
 
I'm not to sure about this sentence
“The implicit threat - if you don’t do it, we may have to - was always there,” said the Pakistani official. He said that under American pressure, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency told the Taliban to withdraw from Buner on Friday.
Firstly that the US has the immediate wherewithal to irradicate the Talibunnies from the SWAT area, and secondly that the ISI has such absolute control over the Talibunnies. While I have no doubt there is a connection, such control as the times claims would suggest the whole thing is an ISI coup...
 
I'm not to sure about this sentence

Firstly that the US has the immediate wherewithal to irradicate the Talibunnies from the SWAT area, and secondly that the ISI has such absolute control over the Talibunnies. While I have no doubt there is a connection, such control as the times claims would suggest the whole thing is an ISI coup...

Hi,

They are not bunnies---they men of war---merchants of death and destruction. Please take these words out of your diction and address them properly. Thanks.
 
"Firstly that the US has the immediate wherewithal to irradicate the Talibunnies from the SWAT area..."

Of course. This is obvious to most that we don't issue threats where we don't have the means to sustain.

Thus, what's the intent but to reinforce the patent anti-American backdrop that's served as the core of this political and military paralysis?

"American military and intelligence forces already run limited ground and air operations on Pakistani soil along the border with Afghanistan. But an overt military operation such as that threatened in Swat, away from the border, would mark a major escalation."

Not one quote by a U.S. official. Certainly not one quote by a U.S. official speaking to an "overt military operation". Certainly there's NO evidence of U.S. military or intelligence operations GROUND operations on the Pakistani side of the border...yet.

Think that matters to this reading audience? Think again. Glossed over to the byline and let er' rip from there.

Afterall, one can't be seen as supportive of America in any capacity even should doing so entail saving your country in the interim.

Just more disinformation to muddy the waters. Good call.

Oh, by the way...:tsk:
 
Trust me that Parihaka's plenty of names for these pukes and is simply being excessively polite for the delicate nat'l sensibilities too often displayed here.
 
Hi,

They are not bunnies---they men of war---merchants of death and destruction. Please take these words out of your diction and address them properly. Thanks.

Well I must apologise if I've offended your sensibilities Sir.
I prefer not to use the name 'Taliban' ascribed to them as it gives them a kudos or mana I don't believe they deserve. Nor would I describe them as 'men of war' as to me that would be men who fight and die defending their country, soldiers in other words such as your own in the PA or FC.
These animals seem better at deliberately killing women and children with bombs and sawing off the heads of bound men than any actual martial prowess. Perhaps musfidun or irhabi? Though you'll then just have to guess which particular mufsidun or irhabi it is I'm referring to...
 
Woww the NATO forces cant control the Taliban in their side of the border but they want to strike them in our country :D. I dont know if NATO forces are aware of this but Taliban control 50% of Afghanistan :D, but they want to pursue them in FATA wowww :D

Taliban control 70% of Afghanistan.
By attacking Pakistan side of border will create new enemy and they will be Pakistanis. This is practically done by drone attacks. US know they will never win war in Afghanistan so they need an explanation for losing in Afghanistan that will be Pakistan.
 
They will stop the Taliban? How? They should use that rhetoric in their own fight that has us in a frying pan as well.
 
Taliban control 70% of Afghanistan.
By attacking Pakistan side of border will create new enemy and they will be Pakistanis. This is practically done by drone attacks. US know they will never win war in Afghanistan so they need an explanation for losing in Afghanistan that will be Pakistan.
They will stop the Taliban? How? They should use that rhetoric in their own fight that has us in a frying pan as well.

So neither of you believe that Pakistan can prevent the irhabi from taking over then?
 
Well Im amazed the US has shown the auditicity to come to Pakistan in the name that we are pursuing the Talibs, Swat is a settled district it does not border Afghanistan in any way with America becoming increasingly frustated with Pakistan they have decided to interfere in internal affairs of Pakistan.

In the BBC report they were estimating the Talibs control 70% territory of Afghanistan the mayor of Kabul Mr Karzai is unable to pursue his power grip outside Kabul the Talibs are increasingly infiltrating Kabul and its just a matter of time but when Talibs make a full assault on Kabul they are at the moment standing at the gates of Kabul.

Nato has simply utterly failed to control the Talibs what have they been doing for the last 8 years having some kind of picnic.
 
Firstly that the US has the immediate wherewithal to irradicate the Talibunnies from the SWAT area, and secondly that the ISI has such absolute control over the Talibunnies. While I have no doubt there is a connection, such control as the times claims would suggest the whole thing is an ISI coup...

Hi,

They are not bunnies---they men of war---merchants of death and destruction. Please take these words out of your diction and address them properly. Thanks.
 
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