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US takes firm line in nuclear negotiations with India

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070419/pl_afp/indiausnuclearenergy_070419185523

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The United States on Thursday ruled out bending its laws to allow India to retain the right to resume nuclear weapons testing under a civilian nuclear energy deal being negotiated by the two governments.

"It's an issue that's covered by our law and ... in as much as it is affected by, it bumps up against US law, we're not going to change our laws," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said when asked about India's stance on nuclear testing.

He was speaking after the State Department's number three official, Under Secretary of State Nicholas Burns, expressed frustration at India's demands in talks on the landmark agreement.

"We are disappointed with the pace and seriousness of the civil nuclear negotiations with India," Burns said in an interview published in the Financial times.

"It is time to accelerate our efforts to achieve a final deal," he said.

The agreement, initially reached in July 2006, gives India unprecedented access to US nuclear fuel and technology for its civilian power sector without requiring New Delhi to sign a nuclear weapons non-proliferation treaty as normally required by US law.

The deal has been defended by President George W. Bush's administration as the centerpiece of a new relationship between the US and India following decades of Cold War tensions.

But the negotiations have bogged down, notably over India's refusal to commit formally to its voluntary unilateral moratorium on nuclear weapons testing and its insistence the deal give it the right to reprocess nuclear fuel.

Both elements would contravene US laws.

"We have conveyed to the Indian government that there are certain issues that they might like to raise concerning issues that are covered by our national laws, and those are issues we're not going to go back and re-legislate," McCormack said.

But he expressed confidence that the differences would be overcome.

"When you're blazing a trail on an issue with negotiations and there's not a body of work or a history or precedent to fall back on, every issue becomes important for one side or the other," he said.

"Once the negotiations run their course, I think we're going to see an agreement," he said.

Washington had initially expected to implement the agreement within six months of its approval by Congress and signature into law by Bush in December.

But in addition to hiccups in negotiations with the US, New Delhi still has to negotiate with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) over a set of atomic safeguards which it should adhere to under the pact.

The 45-nation Nuclear Suppliers' Group (NSG) also has to formally sanction the deal.
 
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And India cant change its laws, Mostly the deal will get scuttled
 
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What about the other rules? Like a cap on the nuclear fuel that could be diverted to weapons armament? I'm guessing the US won't bend on that either...

Testing was a sure shot no go... India will bend, though. The politicians are soooo eager to form bonds with the US. There is stiff resistance in India too from the intellectuals but I'm certain the politicians will bring them to a compromise and sell the idea.

Testing a nuke today too, automatically means US sanctions of all sorts. So give it another year and the Indians would be like "yeah so what? We are not going to test anything for some time anyway".

The cap on the warheads that India produces from here on would be interesting. Pak has China which places no such caps on us. Our weapon production would increase in fact.
 
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India is already bending and would eventually accept whatever US demands, a couple of days back India have put sanctions on trade with Iran including stuff which can be used for defence needs.

Manmohan government already have given a lot to US by opening their market for US companies and would do further, its intresting development, US might more intrested in bending Indian foreign policy, lets wait and watch.
 
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Pakistan cant get Chinese help with IAEA approval. Therefore CAPS will be there,

Interesting that you might think America can demand Indian obedience like they got in Pakistan, That is because you dont understand Indian Internal Political structure.
 
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Pakistan cant get Chinese help with IAEA approval. Therefore CAPS will be there,

Interesting that you might think America can demand Indian obedience like they got in Pakistan, That is because you dont understand Indian Internal Political structure.
You are comparing 4 decades of American meddling with 4 years in yours?

Abhi toh shuruvaat hai, agay agay dekhiye hota hai kya.
 
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You are comparing 4 decades of American meddling with 4 years in yours?

Abhi toh shuruvaat hai, agay agay dekhiye hota hai kya.

I agree with you Asim. This is the point that I made on another thread but for some reason our Indian friends here think that its an impossibility.
 
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Blain,

Why do you think we would make the same mistake's as you.
Our system and methodology in foriegn policy is different to yours, I see this as your false sense of insecurity, where you have trouble accepting that Indians might actually succeed in where you failed miserably.

Our World standing and our own internal strength is far ahead of yours, plus please dont belittle the pentration achieved by the KGB in the Indian establishment. So lets not start shouting Sky is falling , Sky is falling, Just lets watch,
We dont think it is an impossibilty, but just a tad near imposbbility, cuz we know our commie's only too well
 
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You are comparing 4 decades of American meddling with 4 years in yours?

Abhi toh shuruvaat hai, agay agay dekhiye hota hai kya.

MayBe you should watch n learn on how it is done properly. Heck when Soviets invaded Afghanistan, I hope you remember that we termed it an unjust occupation.
 
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If India towed the US line, The deal would have been signed by now
 
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And India cant change its laws, Mostly the deal will get scuttled
Nah.. they're just playing hardball (both sides).. It is too big a deal (especially for the United States), India is already courting Russia for the same (nuclear fuel) and they are gladly obliging.

The United States otoh doesn't have many options now, does it?
 
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You are assuming that your Indian leaders won't eventually sell out...

Mig-35s are better than the American offer as well. But the glee of temptation is so easy to see...

Indian leaders want to be close to America, simple as that.
 
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You are assuming that your Indian leaders won't eventually sell out...

Mig-35s are better than the American offer as well. But the glee of temptation is so easy to see...

Indian leaders want to be close to America, simple as that.

An wish to have close relation would not mean you have shake one's head for everything America says.

American temptation is hard to resist,but maybe for India it is not so tempting ,elsse F-18's would already been flying around in IAF colors!
 
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Asim,

We have money now, Honestly speaking in comparison with MiG-35, F/A-18 Superhornet is far better, and is also a better prospect since they are replacing MiG-27 Strike Fighters.

Indians Leaders dont sell out that easily, Why do you think Americans cant sell out. Israeli's are doing it, according to you.
 
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Blain, Asim and Adux,

I had a study saved, but somehow I deleted it, the fact is that lifiting of US sanctions on India after tests was part of deal to bring MOnmohan regime and open India for US corporate, no one ever resisted and it had happened at per US plan.

US is undobtedly a big fish and can hurt any small fish any time, there are not many options left for India, they are enimical towards all of their neighbours and got other problems which can easily be exploited by US.

Honestly speaking, India would accept the US terms and go ahead and play a role of US puppet in future, now what happens to her regionally or internally is not a headache of US.

But no one in world would be able to convince an Indian fellow, in what mess they are today!
 
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