US STATE DEPERTMENT denies of the Nato stolen containers & its weapons in pakistan

[airmarshal]

Sorry but after US state depertment statment there were no stolen containers & any arms & amunation please refrain from a myth created by the JI, JUIF type mullha illegal weapon dealers on the pak-Afghan borders ?
too hoodwink their sale of american arms , they brought that stupid myth which can glorify their halal mullha TTP brothers .
now I can bet you , the weapons found in the raid on 90 aren't the new or special ones , whole pakistan is filled with M4s &M 16 s ?

So whats your argument here???

That MQM is innocent???

That MQM did not have stolen or prohibited bore weapons????

That its ok to have found so many weapons and famous target killers at the headquarter of a political party??????????

 

[Musafir117]

So whats your argument here???

That MQM is innocent???

That MQM did not have stolen or prohibited bore weapons????

That its ok to have found so many weapons and famous target killers at the headquarter of a political party??????????

بشکریہ ڈان نیوز: امریکی محکمہ خارجہ نے نائن زیرو سے ملنے والے اسلحے سے لاتعلقی کا اظہار کردیا



Posted on: 3/12/2015
امریکی وزارت خارجہ نے سماجی ویب سائٹ ٹوئٹر پر اپنے پیغام میں کہا ہے کہ امریکا نے کراچی کے راستے کبھی افغانستان میں اسلحہ کی ترسیل نہیں کی۔
یاد رہے کہ رینجرز کا موقف تھا کہ گزشتہ روز متحدہ قومی موومنٹ (ایم کیو ایم) کے مرکز نائن زیرو پر چھاپے کے دوران نیٹو کنٹینرز سے چوری ہونے والا اسلحہ برآمد کیا گیا، جبکہ متحدہ نے رینجرز کے اس موقف کی تردید کردی تھی۔
اس حوالے سے ایم کیو ایم کے رکن سندھ اسمبلی فیصل سبز واری کا کہنا تھا کہ رینجرز اہلکاروں نے لائسنس یافتہ اسلحہ میڈیا کو دکھایا جبکہ وہ اسلحہ حفاظت کے لیے رکھا گیا تھا۔
بعد ازاں ایم کیو ایم قائد الطاف حسین نے اپنے خطاب میں کہا تھا کہ رینجرز اہلکار اسلحہ کمبلوں میں چھپا کر لائے تھے۔
امریکی محکمہ خارجہ نے اپنے ٹوئٹر پیغام میں یہ بھی کہا ہے کہ میڈیا کو دکھایا گیا اسلحہ افغانستان میں نیٹو افواج کے زیر استعمال اسلحے کے معیار کے مطابق نہیں ہے۔
Now you come up that MQM is also an agent of USA

 

[batmannow]

So whats your argument here???

That MQM is innocent???

That MQM did not have stolen or prohibited bore weapons????

That its ok to have found so many weapons and famous target killers at the headquarter of a political party??????????

My argument is too simple that there shouldn't be any where of shelter of any kind of terrorists ?
Having said that , I don't want to see oppreation against terrorism becoming politically motivated cause then it will produce more terrorists for wrong :& right reasons ?
Now , prohibited bore guns is a old problem , all over Pakistan elite classes always have the double cabins & their guards having this sort of guns ?
No body has the problems ?
I guess you never been to azizabad & 90 cause the terrorists who are now in rangers custody went there without the knowledge of the SUPREME LEADERSHIP of MQM they were close to 90 ?
but not in the 90 .
All is fine there now but can you imagine if any of these terrorists were in contact with any other country's spy agencies ?
& could have attacked 90 ?
Could have done something unthinkable?
I can't go into details but remember , rangers went in without any resistance & top MQM leadership was on bored for the capture of these terrorists which were the ultimate danger to MQM itself ?
I don't think that MQM is the party of angels here but at the same time in don't think any other political in Pakistan is ?
But its the duty of every patriot Pakistani to clean the terrorism at all the levels it includes MQM too.
I don't think that they are my enemies or the enemies of Pakistan nor I hate them & I don't have any intention to take their vote bank so I can become PM ?
I just want to see MQM reshaping as top political of parties of Pakistan solving the problems of Pakistanis.
Now I don't use the raid on 90 to defame MQM or gain political edge on it .

 

[airmarshal]

My argument is too simple that there shouldn't be any where of shelter of any kind of terrorists ?
Having said that , I don't want to see oppreation against terrorism becoming politically motivated cause then it will produce more terrorists for wrong :& right reasons ?
Now , prohibited bore guns is a old problem , all over Pakistan elite classes always have the double cabins & their guards having this sort of guns ?
No body has the problems ?
I guess you never been to azizabad & 90 cause the terrorists who are now in rangers custody went there without the knowledge of the SUPREME LEADERSHIP of MQM they were close to 90 ?
but not in the 90 .
All is fine there now but can you imagine if any of these terrorists were in contact with any other country's spy agencies ?
& could have attacked 90 ?
Could have done something unthinkable?
I can't go into details but remember , rangers went in without any resistance & top MQM leadership was on bored for the capture of these terrorists which were the ultimate danger to MQM itself ?
I don't think that MQM is the party of angels here but at the same time in don't think any other political in Pakistan is ?
But its the duty of every patriot Pakistani to clean the terrorism at all the levels it includes MQM too.
I don't think that they are my enemies or the enemies of Pakistan nor I hate them & I don't have any intention to take their vote bank so I can become PM ?
I just want to see MQM reshaping as top political of parties of Pakistan solving the problems of Pakistanis.
Now I don't use the raid on 90 to defame MQM or gain political edge on it .

Whatever you say, MQM does have link with terror and target killing. This is a established fact and if you are trying to put up a defence for it, then you tried well.

Indirectly, you are again trying to pit army and MQM against each other. This is the excuse used in 90s as well. If MQM terror is not defanged, Karachi will not survive. Karachi and Pakistan are bigger than any political party.

For MQM, it can continue its politics but without militant wing.

 

[batmannow]

Whatever you say, MQM does have link with terror and target killing. This is a established fact and if you are trying to put up a defence for it, then you tried well.

Indirectly, you are again trying to pit army and MQM against each other. This is the excuse used in 90s as well. If MQM terror is not defanged, Karachi will not survive. Karachi and Pakistan are bigger than any political party.

For MQM, it can continue its politics but without militant wing.

Cleaning mess in a room within a big dirty home won't be seen as a cleaned home ?
What I meant by that , is to be with which was stated by our army chief again & again ?
Terrorism has no place in all over Pakistan !
Now being said that , it will not only be MQM which will be sent to dry cleaners?
PPP , PMLn,JI ,SSP , BLA , & rural TTp terrorists all are going to hell ?
It also not ends in Karachi , it will flow from Karachi to Peshawar from there to Lahore & the queeta ?
I am glad about it !
Terrorists belong to any party or group should be sent to hell ?
but also at the same time we don't need a coward leadership which can't speak the name of the TTp terrorist organization while our kids in school of Peshawar being butchered ?
No we don't accept that coward leadership !
Raheel Sharif zindabad !

 

[WishLivePak]

Off course I am. I know all about it. After all, I have to be sure of the idiots who call for banning Alcohol and declare food products with alcohol derived contents Haram..l but end up with Homoeopathic medicines having 70% alcohol.. or alcohol swabs for needles.. or in food items.. Lots of these idiots lead the so called Muslim Thought process.

But then again, who can blame those who were mistakenly handed the Quran when their knowledge of the rest of the world was next to zero. Zero multiplied by anything equals zero.

What counts is the intention. Islam says, kill one innocent and you kill humanity. Yet sometimes we have to drop and innocents die. In the end, we also save innocents who could have died at the hands of these monsters.

If alcohol is used to prevent infection/death, well, it is the same as eating pig if you're near death. If someone puts a gun on your head and tells you to drink alcohol, I don't think God will punish you for that. You're drinking it so the other person lets you go. Of course the other person may shoot you nonetheless, but it was the intention. Drinking so you could live.

 

[batmannow]

What counts is the intention. Islam says, kill one innocent and you kill humanity. Yet sometimes we have to drop and innocents die. In the end, we also save innocents who could have died at the hands of these monsters.

If alcohol is used to prevent infection/death, well, it is the same as eating pig if you're near death. If someone puts a gun on your head and tells you to drink alcohol, I don't think God will punish you for that. You're drinking it so the other person lets you go. Of course the other person may shoot you nonetheless, but it was the intention. Drinking so you could live.

& WHAT IT ALL MEANS TO THE SUBJECT?