US spells out terms of engagement with Pakistan

[Indus Pakistan]

Yes, China should move forward to counter this US policy of punishing Pakistan for refusing to get into the indian camp as far as China is concerned. There's considerable risk for Pakistan and China must assure Pakistan with concrete steps that no harm shall come to it from the US or india. Trump is definitely has wicked plans for Pakistan after what he has done to Turkey.

I agree. Although I am big supporter of China but I think time has come to review every relationship. Nothing is holy and above review. This review must be informed by cold, hard analysis and guided by only Pakistan's self interest.

I am not sure anymore that the Sino/Pak friendship is fair. It appears to be tilted in China's favour. Pakistan has made terrible mistake of making itself to be taken as granted and thus reduced it's value. It's time Pakistan revisited the relationship with China. Pakistan probably lost the 1965 war partly thanks to China. That was in the past. But we can't let Pakistan suffer because of the China factor today. Beijing today has massive resources and it is time it supported Pakistan beyond the peanuts we get at the present time. Naya Pakistan must play USA and China against each other to get a "Naya Deal" that is substantive and makes real differance to this country of 200 million people.

 

[BHarwana]

Would you care to clarify? I feel like a wider war if not world war is being cooked by the present US administration. I think they are planning to hit either Turkey or Pakistan or Iran or perhaps all of them at the same time. Qatar is also in great danger.

None of the above countries are in danger only country in danger is USA. War is an expensive business. USA cannot afford it at the moment.

 

[Darth Vader]

Guys with all the Hype about New PM and Naya Pakistan
I have a feeling it will be a blunder from Pakistani side for some reason and pakistan will do nothing about it
Sorry x_x

 

[IceCold]

Initially, Islamabad disputed the US version of this conversation, but later withdrew its objection.

This is BS from Dawn because the objection was never withdrawn. This became more clearer after PM IK's Q & A will senior journalists, where the PM again said that he sticks with his version and that it never happened.

 

[BHarwana]

Guys with all the Hype about New PM and Naya Pakistan
I have a feeling it will be a blunder from Pakistani side for some reason and pakistan will nothing about it
Sorry x_x

Every thing that is going to happen has already been discussed in GHQ. It is going to happen what we want and what we have decided pompeo is coming to hear us out.

 

[T-Rex]

None of the above countries are in danger only country in danger is USA. War is an expensive business. USA cannot afford it at the moment.

You said nothing about the significance of 6th September, 2018.

 

[BHarwana]

You said nothing about the significance of 6th September, 2018.

It is significant date. I meant 5th. These talks will decide the Afghan future. After all you know Pakistan and USA are the 2 major players and USA is coming to talk under trump for very first time at this high level. This is a delicate point in Afghan history.

 

[Rollno21]

Every thing that is going to happen has already been discussed in GHQ. It is going to happen what we want and what we have decided pompeo is coming to hear us out.

You guys carry this attitude and get hurt when they say do more,I hope pompeo gets a notepad while coming so that he can take notes while hearing you guys lol .

 

[BHarwana]

What do you think will be the out come of these talks?
Trump has elections coming and Afghanistan is becoming a loss for USA. Trump needs good Afghanistan in the midterms

 

[Fawadqasim1]

I agree. Although I am big supporter of China but I think time has come to review every relationship. Nothing is holy and above review. This review must be informed by cold, hard analysis and guided by only Pakistan's self interest.

I am not sure anymore that the Sino/Pak friendship is fair. It appears to be tilted in China's favour. Pakistan has made terrible mistake of making itself to be taken as granted and thus reduced it's value. It's time Pakistan revisited the relationship with China. Pakistan probably lost the 1965 war partly thanks to China. That was in the past. But we can't let Pakistan suffer because of the China factor today. Beijing today has massive resources and it is time it supported Pakistan beyond the peanuts we get at the present time. Naya Pakistan must play USA and China against each other to get a "Naya Deal" that is substantive and makes real differance to this country of 200 million people.

We are in no position to do that sir. We will loose them both. Like north korea. And yes we should guard our interests Through clever diplomacy.
Mindful of the facts that china is our all weather strategic ally and USA is the world's hegemon.

 

[BHarwana]

You guys carry this attitude and get hurt when they say do more,I hope pompeo gets a notepad while coming so that he can take notes while hearing you guys lol .

To say the truth this visit is less related to us than you.

 

[Rollno21]

We are in no position to do that sir. We will loose them both. Like north korea. And yes we should guard our interests Through clever diplomacy.
Mindful of the facts that china is our all weather strategic ally and USA is the world's hegemon.

There are no real true friends in international politics ,it's just interests .China is on your side today but you never know the future.
It's foolish to put all your eggs in a single basket ,China is not the solution if it was, NK would have been in a much better situation than what they are in today after all they had even closer relationship with them than what you have with China today

 

[Fawadqasim1]

What do you think will be the out come of these talks?
Trump has elections coming and Afghanistan is becoming a loss for USA. Trump needs good Afghanistan in the midterms

These can't be termed as talks there will be orders and accusation from one side and rebuttals and defence from the other.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

We are in no position to do that sir. We will loose them both.

Impossible. This is the problem with Pakistani diplomacy. We do not place enough value on ourselves. When you have no respect for yourself others will not give you respect. China and USA need Pakistan as much as we need them. I don't have time now but I will explain later.

And in the real world nothing is "all weather". Even blood brothers fall apart. Countries can only have strategic convergences. When they match you have basis of alliance. If they diverge you will see rupture.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

There are no real true friends in international politics ,it's just interests .China is on your side today but you never know the future.
It's foolish to put all your eggs in a single basket ,China is not the solution if it was, NK would have been in a much better situation than what they are in today after all they had even closer relationship with them than what you have with China today

Read my post first please.