US slaps sanctions on Haqqani commander, others

[muse]

those mountain-dwellers probably never even opened a checking account in their life; US State Department acting like they had shares in Apple Corporation and a stake in Goldman Sachs

a symbolic move though; quite ironic as well, considering the largesse they used to benefit from via the U.S. government some years back -- when most of you guys were either shıtting in your diapers or not even born yet.

Not so fast -- these people are some really savvy players, they can put any bank or investment banker to shame with their ability to know and create profitable deals.

The larger point is that the US wants to be able to exert influence on the party they must negotiate with and find they are unable to -- so the strategy is to get Pakistan to deny herself the influence she clearly has with the opposition groups

Some advise the US to recognize Pakistani interests -- and this is most revealing - because it suggests that the US, even after 10 years, does not recognize such interests, indeed does not even agree that Pakistan can or ought to have interests in Afghanistan - this is a reality that Pakistani policy makers seem to not understand, because had they understood this reality, the US occupation would have been a much more costly affair and the evacuation from Afghanistan, a eventuality best arrived at before 2014.

 

[DADU]

Not so fast -- these people are some really savvy players, they can put any bank or investment banker to shame with their ability to know and create profitable deals.

The larger point is that the US wants to be able to exert influence on the party they must negotiate with and find they are unable to -- so the strategy is to get Pakistan to deny herself the influence she clearly has with the opposition groups

Some advise the US to recognize Pakistani interests -- and this is most revealing - because it suggests that the US, even after 10 years, does not recognize such interests, indeed does not even agree that Pakistan can or ought to have interests in Afghanistan - this is a reality that Pakistani policy makers seem to not understand, because had they understood this reality, the US occupation would have been a much more costly affair and the evacuation from Afghanistan, a eventuality best arrived at before 2014.

Exactly USA still thinks that the war in Afghanistan can be won or at least fought according to their own choosing.

You probably read about them trying to open up an office in Qatar for the Taliban without involving Pakistan?

This is a deliberate ploy by Americanos to exclude Pakistan from any talks with the Taliban.

However ISI played excellent strategic game in making sure that pak was not bypassed in any future peace negotiations.

You remb 2010 arrest of senior commander? He was dealing with elements that were against Pakistan.

He who cannot be named incident should have been a wakeup call for all of pak. However the core commanders handled the situation well even though they were not given credit!

Don’t worry America still has 3 years left, and the Taliban know that Nato AFaujian are losing their momentum and will withdraw in disgrace. More and more of their soldiers will die and suffer catastrophic injuries the longer they stay in afghanistan!!

Let us just hope that Pakistan is able to withstand amercian pressure verbally or physically….

Peace

 

[Imran Khan]

USA is stupid? put sanction on those who sit in mountain fight with USA NATO . they are not businessmen not they are owner of any company lolz usa is wasting time on sanction when they already know any time US got their location they fire on them .lolz

 

[BATMAN]

If US can put sanctions on Pakistan's fictional aid than why not hit Haqqanis with same stroke?

Difference is the sanctions will be less effective on Haqqanis because they have no open bills toward US treasury or pending F-16.

 

[Vassnti]

As I said, the US is envious of Pakistan's relationship with the Haqqanis, & would want it for itself.

First time i misundersood and assumed it was sarcasm but twice? Some one being envious of having the Haqquani loonies on their land makes as much sense as when some one tries to remove a feral badger from your testicles telling them to sod because their just trying to steal your badger.

A group of religoius nutters, bandits and psycopaths and you think people are jelous that makes as much sense as sitting in New Jersy calling for the deaths of American troops.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

What if they changed their name to Haqqani to something else ? lol like these tribal warriors care what US does , there is no sanction in middle of mountain or desert

 

[53fd]

First time i misundersood and assumed it was sarcasm but twice? Some one being envious of having the Haqquani loonies on their land makes as much sense as when some one tries to remove a feral badger from your testicles telling them to sod because their just trying to steal your badger.

A group of religoius nutters, bandits and psycopaths and you think people are jelous that makes as much sense as sitting in New Jersy calling for the deaths of American troops.

I never said I want American troops to die, in fact, I feel aggrieved when even a single American troop dies in Afghanistan or Iraq, because they are dying for a poor (& lost) cause. But the war in Afghanistan serves the Neocons & the private military contractors, not America or the Americans. These wars have destroyed America & its economy, & day by day it's looking like a 3rd world country. What I said was the truth, & consistent with how the events are panning out in that part of the world.

 

[Kazhugu]

Haqqani network: Pakistan could face severe implications – The Express Tribune

 

[53fd]

Haqqani network: Pakistan could face severe implications – The Express Tribune

The article talks about the situation in which the Haqqanis are branded as an international terrorist organization. Even after that, to prove the Haqqanis have bases in Pakistan, or work as a proxy/veritable arm of the ISI will be close to impossible to prove. Just like the US couldn't find the link of ISI/Pakistan Army involvement (as an institution) in the OBL raid, this situation would also yield the same result. And America would not brand them as a terrorist organization, because they have to negotiate with them in the Afghanistan end-game.

 

[karan.1970]

^ Again, everyone's missing the point. The sanctions are supposed to impact the supporters of Haqquanis more than the haqquanis themselves. For example, tomorrow if Pakistan is found/proven (in US system) to be helping Haqquanis after the sanctions have been put in place, the organizations in Pakistan involved in those dealings will end up getting hit by sanctions of their own... These sanctions are a deterrent to Haqquani supporters and not just haqquanis them selves

 

[Rank]

lol now people forget...

Taliban
Alqaida

now Haqqani... Haqqani.... Haqqani lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz sahi **** banaya huwa hey America nay dunya ko!

 

[illuminatidinesh]

What if they changed their name to Haqqani to something else ? lol like these tribal warriors care what US does , there is no sanction in middle of mountain or desert

Like Let ?
But I think the purpose is ..

Again, everyone's missing the point. The sanctions are supposed to impact the supporters of Haqquanis more than the haqquanis themselves. For example, tomorrow if Pakistan is found/proven (in US system) to be helping Haqquanis after the sanctions have been put in place, the organizations in Pakistan involved in those dealings will end up getting hit by sanctions of their own... These sanctions are a deterrent to Haqquani supporters and not just haqquanis them selves

Here Many underestimate the US. They dont anything which is not useful to them either short term or long term.
We only understand their intention only when it hurts us.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Not so fast -- these people are some really savvy players, they can put any bank or investment banker to shame with their ability to know and create profitable deals.

The larger point is that the US wants to be able to exert influence on the party they must negotiate with and find they are unable to -- so the strategy is to get Pakistan to deny herself the influence she clearly has with the opposition groups

Some advise the US to recognize Pakistani interests -- and this is most revealing - because it suggests that the US, even after 10 years, does not recognize such interests, indeed does not even agree that Pakistan can or ought to have interests in Afghanistan - this is a reality that Pakistani policy makers seem to not understand, because had they understood this reality, the US occupation would have been a much more costly affair and the evacuation from Afghanistan, a eventuality best arrived at before 2014.

a little bit of drug and extortion money 'never hurt nobody'....i dont know what kind of business they are in, to be honest. This whole haqqani thing has gotten way out of hand.

as i said, I dont believe Americans were ever doing business with the guy. Sanctions on his group are devoid of any meaning or consequence. I think the last time he ever even had exposure face-to-face with Americans was when he was sitting in Oval Office, in White House